[Milsurplus] Dayton Findings, Ebay Pricings
J. Forster
jfor at quikus.com
Mon May 20 22:06:12 EDT 2013
There is another point of view.
Not everybody has kids or grandkids that 'need' the latest toys or houses
or cars or whatever. Such 'need' has no end.
OT: The pols in DC are doing their best to mandate intergenerational
transfer of wealth with taxation and new entitlements. That is why the
younger generation support such administrations. They still believe in
Santa Claus. That is delusional.
So, if a person, who has worked and saved all his/her life wants to have
their toys, who has ANY right to say they cannot.
To the ham or experimenter who has walls of gear and enjoys it, isn't that
60 dB better than playing cards at nursing home or golf or watching "Judge
Judy" or "Days of Our Lives" or driving for "meals on Wheels"?
What good is retirement if you cannot do the stuff you really enjoy?
IMO, none at all.
YMMVAL,
-John
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> It is a very common attitude to hold on to huge collections rather than to
> pare
> down with increasing age. The market value of many things radio related
> are
> much less than those collectors realize, and shipping has gotten so
> expensive
> for heavy items that people don't want to pay that as well. Plus, the
> packing
> can be tough to do properly and take time and effort.
>
> If current trends continue, a lot of this radio gear will be worth less
> and less
> as fewer and fewer hams are interested in it, or even know how to make it
> run.
>
>
> On 5/20/2013 9:30 PM, COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote:
>> I see too many old men die with stuff rotting in storage sheds and u
>> store it lockers.
>> Ed#
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 5/20/2013 5:40:58 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
>> clare.owens at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> You are striking a chord in me with your comments. Especially this
>> one:
>>
>> "It's just a thing. You need liquid assets- not an albatross on a shelf
>> costing you money."
>>
>> I think it would strike close to home for some on this list to rephrase
>> that as "an albatross sitting on a shelf or in a commercial storage
>> unit
>> costing you money." I want to be able to see and touch my "stuff" by
>> just
>> turning my head to the left or at most by going downstairs to my
>> garage.
>> Obviously it's anybody's privilege to spend whatever amount for any
>> item or
>> to spend whatever additional amounts on its upkeep and/or storage but
>> it'd
>> be foolish to expect the cost of those efforts to make much if any
>> change
>> in the item's perceived value to the rest of the world.
>>
>> When I die one of my sons will want a few of the items in my collection
>> and
>> if any of my other sons or grandchildren want any they can have them
>> and
>> the rest will go to a live auction. It's in my will and nobody will be
>> depending upon any perceived value when it all goes. I just hope that
>> the
>> collectors who survive me will get as much enjoyment out of my stuff as
>> I've had from it.
>>
>> Clare
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 12:51 PM, David Stinson <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Re: Price and Markets
>>> (originally posted on Boatanchors,
>>> reposted here in reponse (**) to Robert's post)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russo, John"
>>> <jprusso at buffalo.edu>
>>>
>>>> ....And the Ebay prices on most of the cleaner fleamarket pieces. I
>> would
>>>> guess 90% of the clean boatanchors did NOT sell because
>>>> of the overpricing. ....
>>>> I'm not sure I'll be able to sustain this hobby luxury much longer.
>>>>
>>> Hams are getting older- fast.
>>> Many of us have indulged and carried our children far longer than we
>>> should have, leaving some short the assets to retire.
>>> Others have been stripped of their assets by the "Big Medicine" mafia.
>>> These folks dream that their collections- which are of value
>>> to them and about .001% of people with money to spend-
>>> are going to save them.
>>> They do not understand elementry marketing.
>>> Ebay commands "ebay prices" because it offers a market of
>>> literally millions of buyers. That gives Ebay "pricing power."
>>> Even at a place like Dayton, your gems are going to be seen
>>> by, at most, what- a couple of thousand? Double that number.
>>> Triple it if you like; it's still a "fart in a whirlwind" when it
>>> comes
>> to
>>> Ebay's pricing power.
>>>
>>> **Second- as more of us join "the choir invisible" with no
>>> replacements
>>> coming behind us to soak-up the gear,
>>> "supply and demand" drives prices down even more.
>>> High prices on new "plastic computers with antennas" (I don't call
>>> them
>>> "radios" cuz they ain't one)
>>> freeze-out many young people. High prices on "real" radios at places
>>> like
>>> Dayton keep them out.
>>>
>>> Mathematics is a cruel mistress. She does not give a diddly-damn how
>>> we
>>> feel
>>> or what we think is "fair." Her rules never change.
>>> One can scream how "it isn't so" and curse and blame
>>> and shake his fist at the thunderstorm but in the end,
>>> he's still gonna get wet.
>>>
>>> But hams are not only older- they are ever more stubborn.
>>> We all know many guys who will haul that ratty R-390 priced at "$1500
>>> firm" back and forth, robbing themselves of the assets they could have
>>> deployed years earlier and which would have made them more in the end
>>> .
>>> They will keep on doing it, red-faced and griping about "cheap hams"
>> until
>>> The Almighty gets tired of the comedy show and their kids throw the
>>> receiver in the dumpster.
>>>
>>> Don't be a chump. There is only one "fair price-" the one you and a
>>> buyer
>>> agree upon. Get your money out of that "thing" and into something else
>> that
>>> will do you good. Sitting on the shelf with the "I'll never take less
>> than
>>> this, by God!" attitude is costing you money and grief.
>>> It's just a thing. You need liquid assets- not an albatross on a shelf
>>> costing you money.
>>>
>>> 73 DE Dave AB5S
>>>
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