[Milsurplus] Manuals sought

Jack Sullivan wa1tej at yahoo.com
Wed May 1 14:04:33 EDT 2013


Looking for either hard copies or scans of the following:

Operator & maintenance manuals:

APR-4
APR-4Y
APR-5A
CV-253/ALR
ID-60/APA-10
APA-38
AN/PPN-17

Thanks!

Jack


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Today's Topics:

   1. FS: WW-II Vintage BC-342 Receiver w/Rectifier (AC)    Power
      Supply. (subs at w1rc.net)
   2. Ground Radials for a 6 to 80 m vertical (John Watkins)
   3. Re: A TCS  Transmitter Wiring Mystery (Ray Fantini)
   4. Re: A TCS  Transmitter Wiring Mystery (B. Smith)
   5. Re: A TCS  Transmitter Wiring Mystery (Ray Fantini)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 07:36:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: "subs at w1rc.net" <subs at w1rc.net>
To: "boatanchors at mailman.qth.net" <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
Cc: mrca at mailman.qth.net, milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Milsurplus] FS: WW-II Vintage BC-342 Receiver w/Rectifier
    (AC)    Power Supply.
Message-ID:
    <2002712653.235412.1367408183703.open-xchange at email.1and1.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi Gang:

As part of my "divestiture" I am offering up for sale my BC-342 receiver made by
Farnsworth of Fort Wayne IN.  This radio includes the rectifier AC power supply.
It appears to be complete and original but it is untested.  The case needs to
be repainted but otherwise it is cosmetically excellent including the nametag.
Includes original TM manual.

It is heavy and I do not want to ship it.  I will deliver to Deerfield/NEAR-Fest
this coming weekend.  Asking price is $150.00.  If interested please reply by
e-mail.

73,

Michael, W1RC

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 08:23:59 -0500
From: John Watkins <jpwatkins9 at yahoo.com>
To: "Oddball_HF_SSB_Radio at yahoogroups.com"
    <Oddball_HF_SSB_Radio at yahoogroups.com>,     Army Radios
    <armyradios at yahoogroups.com>,    Mil Surplus <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Milsurplus] Ground Radials for a 6 to 80 m vertical
Message-ID: <C7C21EB4-A742-42AB-B0B1-7324CBF14A02 at yahoo.com>
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Hi,

Just put this up and was wondering about the length of the radials for the ground plane.  It is up about 15 feet and will be used with my PRC-70, hence the frequency range.

Thanks,

John WD5ENU


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 09:40:00 -0400
From: Ray Fantini <RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu>
To: "B. Smith" <smithab11 at comcast.net>, "milsurplus at mailman.qth.net"
    <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] A TCS  Transmitter Wiring Mystery
Message-ID:
    <2DE6F17E951D824AAE8B8D0BF7579D811C1A6E7C87 at MBX.salisbury.edu>
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Did anyone tune the TCS by the chart in the first place? Maybe you used the chart for starting settings and then tuned the transmitter for max antenna current but if you just used the charts and ignored the antenna current meter and the plate current meter why did they install them in the first place?
The question I would have is was the radio set up by a technician on the crystals that were installed with the readings written down on the front cards and the crews of the boats were  told to set the radio up according to the chart that way or were users of the radio instructed on how to tune the transmitter? Or perhaps back at the dock a tech set the radio on one channel and everyone was told just use that set up channel and don't touch the radio? 
I know it antidotal at best but both of the great grandsons of the TCS the Sunair GSB-800 and the Harris URC-94 have huge stickers on top of the radios that have the operating instructions written for idiots but they do tell you how to change the frequency and tune the antenna.
In the old days of HF AM marine radio all the transceivers they had for small boats had no provision for any transmitter adjustments for the user, the loading coils and everything was installed in the radio with no user access. My understanding then was that you had to have at least a second class license to set up or tune one of those old HF AM transceivers.

Ray F



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 10:58:46 -0400
From: "B. Smith" <smithab11 at comcast.net>
To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] A TCS  Transmitter Wiring Mystery
Message-ID: <51812DA6.3090401 at comcast.net>
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The TCS "Typical Dial Readings" chart is a very valuable aid when tuning 
SHORT antennas, even to the experienced operator. As you well know with 
your amateur experience matching  a single antenna on different bands- - 
- when you have tuned or matched  your   "antenna system" for maximum 
current (conjugate match)  there are sometimes  two or sometimes three 
settings that will produce a good output but it helps to be in the ball 
park for the correct setting, This "correct setting" gives maximum  
output, best  efficiency, less heating of matching components   as well 
as provide maximum harmonic retention.

BTW the TCS does not have any capability to spot or monitor the transmit 
crystal. I will post a "spot" mod on my web page in the near future.

Yes, it did require a FCC license.

73

Breck k4che
First Class Radio Telephone



On 5/1/2013 9:40 AM, Ray Fantini wrote:
> Did anyone tune the TCS by the chart in the first place? Maybe you used the chart for starting settings and then tuned the transmitter for max antenna current but if you just used the charts and ignored the antenna current meter and the plate current meter why did they install them in the first place?
> The question I would have is was the radio set up by a technician on the crystals that were installed with the readings written down on the front cards and the crews of the boats were  told to set the radio up according to the chart that way or were users of the radio instructed on how to tune the transmitter? Or perhaps back at the dock a tech set the radio on one channel and everyone was told just use that set up channel and don't touch the radio?
> I know it antidotal at best but both of the great grandsons of the TCS the Sunair GSB-800 and the Harris URC-94 have huge stickers on top of the radios that have the operating instructions written for idiots but they do tell you how to change the frequency and tune the antenna.
> In the old days of HF AM marine radio all the transceivers they had for small boats had no provision for any transmitter adjustments for the user, the loading coils and everything was installed in the radio with no user access. My understanding then was that you had to have at least a second class license to set up or tune one of those old HF AM transceivers.
>
> Ray F
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 11:16:16 -0400
From: Ray Fantini <RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu>
To: "B. Smith" <smithab11 at comcast.net>, "milsurplus at mailman.qth.net"
    <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] A TCS  Transmitter Wiring Mystery
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Never knew there was a chart but don't think I ever saw the manual for the TCS anyway, have seen the schematic and the stuff in the CQ surplus conversion manuals and have operated the transmitters and receivers on occasion although don't have any today. My policy was to always tune to max current on antenna meter and dip for minimum current on plate. Other question would be the external antenna loading coil, I have always found the original coil to be just about useless on every antenna that I have connected the radio too. maybe on a short loaded vertical but with any long wire that coil did nothing but work in bypass. Other than that the TCS appears to be a good little radio although somewhat under powered for AM use. Would assume the TCS was the floating equal of the ARC-5 in terms of being a good radio for short range communications but not intended for anything beyond that?

Ray F

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From: milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of B. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 10:59 AM
To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] A TCS Transmitter Wiring Mystery

The TCS "Typical Dial Readings" chart is a very valuable aid when tuning SHORT antennas, even to the experienced operator. As you well know with your amateur experience matching  a single antenna on different bands- - 
- when you have tuned or matched  your   "antenna system" for maximum 
current (conjugate match)  there are sometimes  two or sometimes three settings that will produce a good output but it helps to be in the ball park for the correct setting, This "correct setting" gives maximum  
output, best  efficiency, less heating of matching components   as well 
as provide maximum harmonic retention.

BTW the TCS does not have any capability to spot or monitor the transmit crystal. I will post a "spot" mod on my web page in the near future.

Yes, it did require a FCC license.

73

Breck k4che
First Class Radio Telephone






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