[Milsurplus] Milsurplus Digest, Vol 112, Issue 5
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Crosley REP with Bad Audio Output Tranny (John Hutchins)
2. Re: Crosley REP with Bad Audio Output Tranny (Bruce Gentry)
3. AN/GRR-5 (Richard C. Grosser)
4. Need transformer for BC-614 (Bill Fondren)
5. 3A5 Filament Voltage Question (J. Forster)
6. Re: 3A5 Filament Voltage Question (Al Klase)
7. Re: 3A5 Filament Voltage Question (Bill Cromwell)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:05:33 -0500
From: John Hutchins <jphutch60bj at gmail.com>
To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Crosley REP with Bad Audio Output Tranny
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Dave -
IF the inside is tar - Then go to goodwill or thrift store and get a
hotplate or electric skillet.
Get some ranch gloves or tongs heat up transformer and tar, and pour it
out.
Melting point of roof tar is 65.5 degrees Celsius, ~= 150 degrees F.
Hutch
On 8/3/2013 8:30 AM, David Stinson wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who helped with this.
> The output transformer is bad. I do have an "open frame" replacement
> that works well and will fit inside the original
> rectangular transformer case. However, the original is potted.
>
> I could remove the end pieces and melt the gloop out with
> a propane torch. Anyone have experiance in doing it some other way?
>
> 73 DE Dave AB5S
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 14:05:04 -0400
From: Bruce Gentry <ka2ivy at verizon.net>
To: Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Crosley REP with Bad Audio Output Tranny
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If you can get the end off or otherwise open the case a bit, immerse it
in gasoline for a week or so. Use a covered and loosely sealed container
so fume pressure can escape when it needs to, but otherwise trap the
fumes. Set it in a warm place outside, agitate it avery day. The pitch
will dissolve. For a faster but risker way, get a cheap hot plate you
don't mind losing, and use a double boiler to steep the transformer in
very hot kerosene. Use a variac to keep the water in the bottom pan
just simmering, and of course, do it outdoors where an accidental fire
won't harm anything. The transformer core and windings will usually pour
out of the case easily after a couple hours. I haven't had it catch fire
yet, but it can and you must be prepared if it does. Now for a bit of
history: Between the World Wars, critical massive machine tools were
preserved by mounting them on worn out railroad flat cars, then spraying
and dousing them with molten tar. They could then be stored outdoors
with little chance of rusting. When WW2 broke out, the cars were pushed
through tunnels where they were showered in steam heated kerosene to
wash the tar off. The preservation was excellent, and the tar saturated
kerosene was then used to fire the boilers.
Bruce Gentry, KA2IVY
On 8/3/13 9:30 AM, David Stinson wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who helped with this.
> The output transformer is bad. I do have an "open frame" replacement
> that works well and will fit inside the original
> rectangular transformer case. However, the original is potted.
>
> I could remove the end pieces and melt the gloop out with
> a propane torch. Anyone have experiance in doing it some other way?
>
> 73 DE Dave AB5S
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 12:07:49 -0700
From: "Richard C. Grosser" <richard at palmspringsairmuseum.org>
To: <Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Milsurplus] AN/GRR-5
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I have a very good working AN/GRR-5 receiver (R-174/URR receiver, model
PP-308/URR power supply, cabinet CY-615/URR. The only modification is the
replacement of the selenium rectifier unit with diodes. I have also built a
plug-in adapter with a standard pj-55 phone jack for it. I would like to
dispose of this unit either by selling it or trading it for a working
solid-state, general coverage receiver capable of receiving AM, CW and SSB.
Preferably one with VLF coverage. Is anyone interested in purchase or trade.
I will make photos available upon request.
Richard
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 12:37:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Fondren <bill.fondren at sbcglobal.net>
To: "milsurplus at mailman.qth.net" <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Milsurplus] Need transformer for BC-614
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Hi Guys??? I am in need of an audio output transformer for a BC-614.? email?? bill.fondren at sbcglobal.net? Thanks? K5PML
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 17:18:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quikus.com>
To: ARC5 at mailman.QTH.net, boatanchors at mailman.QTH.net,
Milsurplus at mailman.QTH.net
Subject: [Milsurplus] 3A5 Filament Voltage Question
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I'm playing with an ART-4 Transmitter. This unit is for reporting the
blast intensity near an airplaned towed target tube (sock), hence the
closeness of the shell to target can be estimated.
Anyway, after tracing the circuit, it has an oscillator and an amplifier
stage.
The filament on the 3A5 is parallel wired.
The spec sheet says 1.4 VDC, Max. A current alkaline battery will put out
significantly more than that.
I want to run the thing off an adjustable DC supply, and allow some margin.
Does anyone know roughly what the minimum DC filament voltage to apply for
enough emission to work reasonably well? I just want to test the operating
frequency and get a rough idea of the modulation deviation.
Thanks,
-John
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 21:20:39 -0400
From: Al Klase <ark at ar88.net>
To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] 3A5 Filament Voltage Question
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Hi John,
I fail to see that 1.4 is defined as the maximum filament voltage,
rather 1.4 is the voltage at which the typical characteristics are measured.
See: RCA HB3 page here:
http://www.mif.pg.gda.pl/homepages/frank/sheets/049/3/3A5.pdf
I've always assumed that 1.4 is the nominal filament voltage, and that
1.5 or maybe even 1.6 is not a reliability problem. I also assume that
you should get reasonable performance down to about 1 volts, the so
called "end point" where the battery has delivered 80+ percent of it's
available energy.
Here's another situation where I'd really like to see the original RCA
applications notes that must have existed in one form or another. when
these tubes were introduced to the market.
Regards,
Al
On 8/3/2013 8:18 PM, J. Forster wrote:
> I'm playing with an ART-4 Transmitter. This unit is for reporting the
> blast intensity near an airplaned towed target tube (sock), hence the
> closeness of the shell to target can be estimated.
>
> Anyway, after tracing the circuit, it has an oscillator and an amplifier
> stage.
>
> The filament on the 3A5 is parallel wired.
>
> The spec sheet says 1.4 VDC, Max. A current alkaline battery will put out
> significantly more than that.
>
> I want to run the thing off an adjustable DC supply, and allow some margin.
>
> Does anyone know roughly what the minimum DC filament voltage to apply for
> enough emission to work reasonably well? I just want to test the operating
> frequency and get a rough idea of the modulation deviation.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -John
>
> ===================
>
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--
Al Klase - N3FRQ
Jersey City, NJ
http://www.skywaves.ar88.net/
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 21:38:25 -0400
From: Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell at gmail.com>
To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] 3A5 Filament Voltage Question
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On 08/03/2013 09:20 PM, Al Klase wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> I fail to see that 1.4 is defined as the maximum filament voltage,
> rather 1.4 is the voltage at which the typical characteristics are
> measured.
> See: RCA HB3 page here:
> http://www.mif.pg.gda.pl/homepages/frank/sheets/049/3/3A5.pdf
>
> I've always assumed that 1.4 is the nominal filament voltage, and that
> 1.5 or maybe even 1.6 is not a reliability problem. I also assume
> that you should get reasonable performance down to about 1 volts, the
> so called "end point" where the battery has delivered 80+ percent of
> it's available energy.
>
> Here's another situation where I'd really like to see the original RCA
> applications notes that must have existed in one form or another. when
> these tubes were introduced to the market.
>
> Regards,
> Al
Hi,
I'm a heathen and have been running my battery tubes on alkaline
flashlight cells. So far no problems. I haven't bothered to measure the
no-load terminal voltage of the 'dead' cells - sorry. If I remember to
turn the gear off those cells last a long, long time. All of that is
pretty much subjective but I can testify that 1.5621300671 volts will
apparently not harm the tubes but maybe 1.5621300672 volts would make
them explode.
I'm putting together a TX/RX set with them for portable use and I'll
make it a point get more detailed data because I will need to know how
many battrys to take on field trips.
73,
Bill KU8H
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