[Milsurplus] DC vs AC for power distribution

Paul Kraemer elespe at lisco.com
Tue May 1 12:43:02 EDT 2012


Better alert Wikipedia
They got it wrong too
K0UYA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quikus.com>
To: "Paul Kraemer" <elespe at lisco.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] DC vs AC for power distribution


> Well, it depends on who is telling the story.
>
> Tesla was a 'mad' inventor. Not a real engineer. His real fucus was on
> radiated power. In recent years he has become something of a cult hero.
>
> The real brains behind AC was Charles Proteus Steinmetz, who worked for
> Westinghouse and did the fundamental engineering.
>
> -John
>
> ================
>
>> No, not exactly true.
>> For those who have never read it, the history of Nikolai Tesla is a
>> fascinating read
>> Tesla is credited as being the inventor of our AC power distribution
>> system
>> as we know it today, including 3 phase.
>> History claims Tesla drew this out in the sand one day on the beach
>> Tesla was a brilliant inventory but not a business man. Westinghouse saw
>> the
>> potential (no pun) of Tesla's inventions and provided the capital to make
>> it
>> happen.
>> Edison (General Electric), already well invested in dc power 
>> distribution,
>> attempted to dis-credit the AC power by references to the "deadly ac
>> power"
>> used in the electric chair executions in New York.
>> Although AC power grew became all it is to us today, Tesla died alone and
>> poor.
>> Fascinating stuff
>> Paul K0UYA
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quikus.com>
>> To: <whitaker at ieee.org>
>> Cc: <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] DC vs AC for power distribution
>>
>>
>>> Errr...  I think that was Westinghouse v. Edison. Tesla was much higher
>>> frequency.
>>>
>>> -John
>>>
>>> ============
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> de WB2CPN
>>>> Will someone bring up the Great Battle between Tesla and
>>>> Edison over the standard to be used in New York City.
>>>> And maybe other cities.  That went to court all the way to the
>>>> top.  Also the mud slinging about the use of AC for the
>>>> Electric Chair.  Or was the other way around?  Magazines
>>>> had pictures of scorched skulls.
>>>> I been zapped by both things, AC and DC, but I'll tell you
>>>> now neither had a lasting effect.  I think.
>>>> 73  Clete
>>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/1/2012 7:49 AM, Sheldon Daitch wrote:
>>>>> As we know, AC replaced DC distribution many
>>>>> years ago, because of the availability of power
>>>>> transformers, as this allowed the power to be
>>>>> generated at low voltages, stepped up to higher
>>>>> voltages and stepped back down to lower
>>>>> voltages for the customers.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is also a trend to go back to DC for high
>>>>> voltage distribution grid systems, to overcome some
>>>>> of the challenges of AC distribution systems, related
>>>>> to the reactive elements (Inductive and capacitive)
>>>>> in the AC distribution network and cables which
>>>>> place limitations of transmission line capacity
>>>>> and distance.  AC networks may also require
>>>>> additional equipment on the line for compensation,
>>>>> such as capacitors and  reactors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Advances in high voltage high current electronic
>>>>> components make DC distribution networks far
>>>>> more acceptable, with AC to DC conversion at the
>>>>> generator end, but more importantly, the DC to
>>>>> three phase AC conversion at the user or lower
>>>>> voltage distribution end of the networks.
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