[Milsurplus] IL's

J. Forster jfor at quikus.com
Tue Dec 18 10:29:12 EST 2012


Fiche (microfiche) maybe?

-John

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> de WB2CPN
> When I was with USAF, and later AT&T Long Lines, we learned
> via Bell Labs that the IBM 80-Column punch card was the safest
> way to store data.  Trivia, but most of the retired AT&T underground
> analogue main stations, (L-4 and L-5) were sold to companies that
> stored and protected sensitive and irreplaceable data.  I am more
> familiar with Netcong, NJ, but space in all these storage sites was
> leased to other companies who stored all kinds of magnetic media
> in addition to many who stored IBM cards, both paper and plastic.
> More Trivia, but after a certain time limit, the IBM cards were
> copied and replaced, and the magnetic media was rewritten.
> More Useless Trivia:  Where I was with AT&T our shop had an IL
> Reader and Printer.  We also has FISH, if anyone knows what
> they are.
> EOT
> Clete
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> On 12/17/2012 9:41 PM, Hue Miller wrote:
>> I hate to admit it, but IL's are still around at the ILEC location I
>> work at,
>> where they have copper cable records on them. There ARE alternate
>> means also; I mean, CDs and now, online. Possibly the IL's are still
>> around because they're easy and fast to grab and use, and also the
>> tendency to not throw anything out until its space is actually needed.
>> Which reminds me, there's an old PNB cellsite - dispatch radio site
>> with a large Motorola radio and PS I want to harvest, but I'll have to
>> wait until the monsoon season is over, say about June.  It was
>> "retired in place", =forgotten.
>>
>> Now re the boat radios, unfortunately, for me, I happen to like them,
>> and when I see an orphan radio I no longer immediately think
>> "variable capacitors and airdux coil".  Some of those manufacturers
>> were quite small and local and their products are verging on
>> unknown and extinct. I particularly like the ones with a variable
>> tuning band on the receiver.
>>
>> A story. When I first went surplus shopping, on First Avenue in
>> Seattle around 1961, when First Av was still Skid Road and not
>> gentrified, the store was Pacific Surplus. Was owned by the
>> owner of electronics parts store Pacific Electronics further
>> down the street, and was run by his son. I recall they had a few
>> partly completed small boat radios by "Pan American Radio",
>> "PAR". I didn't get one, but saw an ad in Pacific Fisherman
>> magazine from the KW era for the radio. It has something like
>> a 6V6 final. The receiver tuned 1000-3000 kc/s.  There was
>> no mic, you pushed the lever to "TRANSMIT" and then
>> spoke into the radio's speaker. Used was surplus parts in
>> its construction. A real bargain-basement radio, in other
>> words. Anyway, DECADES later I found on, worse for the
>> wear since then, but at least one survives, and I hope to
>> restore it. Is there a moral to this story? Probably not.
>> Oh, yeah, PAR had another couple models heavily using
>> Command Set parts; modulation xfmr, antenna current
>> meter, knobs from BC-375 TUs.  I was told PAR went
>> under because of "drinking problems" of owner.
>> -Hue
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