[Milsurplus] [ARC5] Wire

Thu Sep 15 21:25:42 EDT 2011

Nylon coated PVC sounds like THHN electrical conduit wire.

On 9/15/2011 9:12 PM, J. Forster wrote:
> YW. It looks OK for chassis wiring, but, sadly, not for cables.
>
> I'm not sure there are any good alternatives to stranded Teflon in Expando
>
> for cables. The nylon coated PVC seems to be very hard to get.
>
> -John
>
> ===============
>
>> It may not be cheap but it's a heck of a lot easier.  Thanks, John!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Michael, WH7HG ex-K3MXO, ex-KN3MXO, WPE3ARS, BL01xh ex-Mensa A&P PP BGI
>> I am me.  I’m the only one who’s qualified.
>> http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx
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>> http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com
>> Hiki Nô!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: J. Forster [mailto:jfor at quikus.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, 15 September, 2011 14:50
>> To: h Kludge
>> Cc: arc5 at mailman.qth.net; milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Wire
>>
>> Not cheap, but:
>>
>> http://tubesandmore.com/Catalog/page_084_085.php
>>
>> -John
>>
>> ===========
>>
>>
>>> In looking at the fabric over rubber wiring used way back when, there
>>> seem
>>> to be two different flavors, one that has the fabric kind of loose and
>>> easily frayed and the other has the fabric somehow bonded to the rubber
>>> which reduces fraying and makes for neater work.  Since I’m going to try
>>> my
>>> hand at making fabric over something wire in an attempt at making things
>>> appear even more authentic*, it would be nice to know how it was done
>>> originally.  “Something” may wind up plastic, vinyl or Teflon dependent
>>> on
>>> what I can get that looks right as to overall bulk.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> * I may even try lacing in the tracers which would probably not be good
>>> therapy when they take me back to psych lockdown as a result of this
>>> activity.  Nor would basket weaving.  :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The way I think this will work is to use white older type flat
>>> shoelaces,
>>> wet them and force them over forms (read as: dowels) while they dry to
>>> reduce or take out the creases.  (This may also require a bit of
>>> ironing.)
>>> After that, introduce them to some RIT dye to get the right base colors
>>> for
>>> color coded wiring and put them back over the forms to dry.  Assuming
>>> (and
>>> we all know what that word means) this works as planned, I may actually
>>> try
>>> lacing in the tracers although it would be insanely time&  labor
>>> intensive
>>> and only a few people would actually realize that the tracers are
>>> supposed
>>> to be there.  I think all of them are in these lists.  Anyway, a little
>>> yellow varnish to give it the official MFP look and I should have wire
>>> good
>>> for open cables.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If the basic project goes well – i.e., the part about using shoelaces to
>>> make a reasonable facsimile of WW II cloth covered wire – the next step
>>> would be to use the same basic technique to make vinyl over white woven
>>> fabric over vinyl wiring used in later aircraft.  I’m not sure I know
>>> what
>>> to seal the fabric with but after that’s done the top coat can be a dip
>>> in
>>> Dip-It clear vinyl.  If this works as I think it will, this will solve
>>> the
>>> problem of wiring up the Type 12 equipment with more or less period
>>> appropriate open wire.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Using shoelaces presents two problems right off.  First, the prices of
>>> good
>>> ones that don’t have the funky seams on each edge and are small enough
>>> have
>>> gone out of sight.  Second, it limits the size of any given run to the
>>> length of the longest laces I can find.  On the other hand, for
>>> everything
>>> except the SCR-A*-183 I’ll be using open wiring as much as possible,
>>> mostly
>>> because I like it but also because a good number of my connectors are
>>> for
>>> open wiring and it’s easier to convert the ones that aren’t to that than
>>> it
>>> is the ones for open wiring to shielded cable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So there it is.  Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael, WH7HG ex-K3MXO, ex-KN3MXO, WPE3ARS, BL01xh ex-Mensa A&P PP BGI
>>> I am me.  I’m the only one who’s qualified.
>>>
>>>   <http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx>
>>> http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx
>>>
>>>   <http://wh7hg.blogspot.com/>  http://wh7hg.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>   <http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com/>
>>> http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> Hiki Nô!
>>>
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