[Milsurplus] [armyradios] Re: SCR-300 and SCR-194 in Italy

[Hue Miller]

From: Spike
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 6:04 AM
To: armyradios at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [armyradios] Re: SCR-300 and SCR-194 in Italy




> Does this (sort of) explain why we see SCR-194/ 195 having in the Italian 
> campaign its only known overseas combat use?
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Not so. They also saw extensive service in the China Burma theater. We know 
this for two reasons. #1, according to "the Signal Corps", per a in-theater 
shortage of batteries for the SCR-300, those batteries for the SCR-194 were 
dissected. #2, the Chinese cloned the SCR-194 after the war. I/E if the 
194/195 2as not in China/Burma, where then did those batteries come from, or 
the pattern radios that the Chinese later duplicated?

--I don't have this book. I assume you mean one of the series. I will have 
to read it myself and satisfy myself that the batts were dissected in 
theater and that the older
radios were actually truly used here. I have no real info on radios in CBI 
except the mentions in "The Marauders" by Clayton Ogburn ( who was in the 
unit ). He talks
about SCR-284 long range and SCR-300 "voice radio" for arty coordination and 
talking to the small planes used for spotting and carrying out wounded.

--I would have to be convinced the Chinese actually did copy the SCR-194 / 
195 and didn't just resort to the common schematics of many such radios from 
late 1930s
radio periodicals. ( The "Haigis" circuit I saw in Jones Radio Handbook 
(1937) is identical to the 194/195 circuit. )
( I read a book on SACO history that talked about millions of dollars worth 
of weapons and commo equipment given to the Communist guerillas in late 
WW2 -
no specifics - but I would be very surprised if it included such voice 
radios as 194/195 or 300 - I would think they wanted longer - lasting, 
longer range radios
such as SCR-284.... )

The use of the SCR-194/195 in Sicily, as well as such sets as the SCR-178, 
may have been a simple accident. Also according to "the Signal Corps", 
because of an mountainous terrain, & the fierce German resistance, an urgent 
"Battlefield Request" was made for all the old radio systems that could be 
mule transported. The Signal Corps then searched their warehouses for these 
older sets & dispatched them.

--That does make a lot of sense. Also would fit with the fact that the 
portable voice radio in the North Africa campaign, previous, when the 
SCR-300 was not yet
available, was the SCR-511 "Horsey Talkie" or "Pogo Stick" : so the 194/ 195 
only went in when it was really, really needed.

Might it be then that the SCR-194/195's then found their way into the 
theater simply because they were swept up with all the other older sets & 
sent as a accident of war?

kb0sfp

--Sounds likely to me. Then, they were pretty quickly removed from service, 
before the Europe invasion.
BTW, a CBI vet once told me that a radio considered for portable use there 
was the Navy's aircraft transmitter GP. That kind of blew my mind, I'd think 
that was not
a practical radio at all. I imagine the usage was intended for larger field 
portable stations like the Navy's TBW setup - used for large weather 
stations or relay for
smaller observer stations. Needless to say the GP was NOT adopted for 
this...
-Hue




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