[Milsurplus] Media Mail again!

[Sheldon Daitch]

Looks like the answer is simple.  The shipper has to make sure the 
package meets
the USPS requirements for delivery confirmation no matter what PayPal 
account
shipping calls for.  PayPal isn't the delivery mechanism, the USPS is.

What is not in the PayPay account equation and not being a PayPal 
account shipper,
I honestly don't know the answer, but is shipping weight and packaging 
not figured
in accordance with what USPS requires?

In other words, is something which is being shipping via a PayPal 
account with the
automatic delivery confirmation, is the PayPal shipping costs not taking 
into account
the proper size and minimum weight with the proper amount of postage 
required
for that shipping size and weight with Delivery Confirmation included?

If a padded envelope used for shipping the contents doesn't meet the minimum
shipping thickness requirement, is there some issue where the mailing 
package
cannot be stuffed with cut cardboard which both makes the package thicker
and further protects the item being mailed?






On 7/20/2011 6:18 PM, bcarling at cfl.rr.com wrote:
> Yes exactly.  The rules and the exceptions are both rather ridiculous.
> If you ship from a pay pal account, it automatically creates delivery 
> confirmation.
> However if the package is between 1/4 inch and 3/4 inch in maximum 
> thickness, it cannot be accepted by USPS rules.
> I know some people have sent many packages like that for years, but 
> now the post office is starting to grumble about it.
>
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Sheldon Daitch" <sdaitch at kuw.ibb.gov>
> To: <WA5CAB at cs.com>
> Cc: <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Milsurplus] Media Mail again!
> Date: Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:54 am
>
>
> Bob,
>
> I never realized there was a thickness requirement on delivery
> confirmation, but sure enough,
> it certainly is.
>
> http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/503.htm#1063871
>
> See 10.2
>
> I am wondering if the thickness requirement is to keep letter mail
> mailers from using
> Delivery Confirmation as a cheap way to get around the most costly
> Certified Mail
> charges?
>
> It looks like the 3/4-inch rule still exists, per the Domestic Mail
> Manual, but it appears
> there is a workaround which allows thinner packages.  See section 
> 10.2.2.c.
>
> 73
> Sheldon
> WA4MZZ
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/19/2011 7:53 AM, WA5CAB at cs.com wrote:
> > Delivery Confirmation is another one of those gray areas in the minds of
> > the million USPS employees.  The book says that to put it on First 
> Class Mail
> > the "mail piece" must be in a "rigid container" at least 3/4" thick.  My
> > Post Office used to inforce the rule with a piece of (I think) 1 by 
> 4 with a
> > 3/4" by about 15" slot cut in it.  If they could pull you package 
> through the
> > slot, it didn't get DelCnfm.  But I routinely receive mail in padded
> > envelopes less than half an inch thick with the bar code printed on 
> them.  Since we
> > started printing our own postage, we just ignore the rule if we want 
> to use
> > it.  Maybe in ten or fifteen years, they'll get around to revising the
> > book.
> >
> > In a message dated 2011-07-18 23:35:21 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > kargo_cult at msn.com writes:
> >
> >
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