[Milsurplus] Wanted, plug-in gadget that powers AC outlet when current drawn by other load
WA5CAB at cs.com
WA5CAB at cs.com
Fri Jan 14 02:30:36 EST 2011
Groups,
Unless anyone has a question or comment, or the unit experiences infant
mortality, this should be the final comment on this subject. And the first
project (tomorrow/later today) with the new lashup will be a pair of adaptors
to attach a pair of scissor-jacks to the legs of a PE-237 Vibrator Supply
cover in order to remove it with hopefully far fewer hammer hits than the last
time that I took the cover off.
First, I discovered why the (supposed) 12 amp breaker tripped every time I
tried to start the saw. A Simpson clamp-on AC ammeter adaptor revealed that
the starting current of the Shopsmith when set to saw RPM is 48-52 amps for
a full one second before it rapidly drops to about 6.5 amps no load. When
set to lower RPM the duration gets shorter but the peak current doesn't seem
to decrease any.
Second, I determined that if I returned the iVac for credit I would still
be out about a third of the total expenditure for shipping. So I figured out
how to remove (destructively) the plastic plug hiding one of the four rear
cover retaining screws and opened the box up for inspection.
The AC wiring, including the two supply cords, was all #16 AWG (OK for the
12 amp marked rating so no foul there). The two breakers are actually
marked 15 A/125 VAC/32 VDC. The current sense device did turn out to be a
current transformer (CT) but it would not be a trivial excercise to remove turns
from the primary. I managed to determine that the primary is probably 5 (or
actually 4.75) turns of 2 x #18 bifilar wound, so equivalent to #15. Mean
turn length about 2". The third (AUX) outlet was not in the CT primary
circuit. The dust collector outlet is controlled by a DC relay marked 120 VDC
(which I assumed meant the coil rating). There is a rectifier circuit across
the main AC input and an ohmmeter check across the high current line cord
plug will show about 50K ohms at one ohmmeter polarity. I didn't attempt
(bother) to trace out the rest of the low-level circuit, as it works.
To boost the current rating (and taking advantage of the fact that the
circuit supplying the saw has only the one dual-duplex outlet on it which
already has a 20 amp breaker) I jumpered out the breaker on the saw side of the
iVac (the dust collector side was left as original). The primary line cord
was replaced with a short (18") #14-3 one (original #16 one was about 6'
long). I shunted the CT primary with 12" of #14 AWG (calculated to have
approximately the same effect as removing 2-1/2 turns). I put the AUX outlet in the
CT primary circuit.
Then I reassembled and tested. Results are that it works with the main
Shopsmith unit plugged into the main load outlet or with the Shopsmith Power
Station (currently carrying the belt sander) plugged into the AUX outlet. It
doesn't work with the 1/2 HP 12" Craftsman bandsaw plugged into the AUX
outlet (meaning that when I start the bandsaw the dust collector does not
start). When I get a few minutes, I'll check the start and run current of the
bandsaw and of the Power Station, which will give me some idea of the minimum
operating current that my shunt established. But that isn't a practical
issue here as the bandsaw isn't located where it would be convenient to connect
it to the Shopmate vacuum anyway.
Anyway, after a little file to fit I have the dust collector control gadget
I was looking for installed and working. Thanks to all for tips and
comments.
Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480
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