[Milsurplus] (no subject)

Thu Sep 16 07:29:41 EDT 2010

CHILL Guys! 
I'm the one here licensed to go "over the top"
with my emotions.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Kludge <wh7hg.hi at gmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 16, 2010 12:38 AM
>To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] "Disposition When the Time Comes"
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>[mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Hue Miller
>> Learning that a certain equipment collection in Hawaii will go the
>landfill after the owner 
>> expires - now there's a persuasive argument for NOT contributing any
>hardware you might 
>> value from your own accumulation, with that particular collector. 
>
>What the matter, Hue, too much a sniveling coward to call me by name?  It's
>Michael "Kludge" Tauson.  Get used to it.  You've had a problem with me
>since I joined the lists so now it's my turn.  
>
>Up front and before anything else, how *DARE* you suggest not allowing me to
>complete my collection?  Are you afraid I may gain some additional
>recognition?  Why not offer a means of disposal like taking them yourself
>when I'm finished with the important part of their mission here, that being
>the photos for the book?  I can happily forgo operating it or using it for
>show 'n tell if someone presents me with a good home afterward.  Thus far,
>though, that hasn't happened and you've shown your true colors in what
>you've said.  
>
>> I can understand why the dump might seem the unvoidable [sic] terminus.
>>From a quick 
>> look in the Honolulu Oahu phonebook, it - no deprecation intended - 
>
>Oh, really?  If that were the case, you wouldn't have written this drivel.
>
>> does not seem the otherwise paradise islands are particularly literate ( i
>[sic] judge this by 
>> "used book stores" ) 
>
>First off, you aren't a shining example of literacy yourself.  It's
>"unavoidable" and the personal pronoun I is capitalized no matter where it
>appears in a sentence.  Second, you come to this conclusion from a phone
>book?  Have you ever actually been to Hawaii?  You have?  *Where* did you
>go?  Oh, yeah.  You were too busy being an obnoxious pestulant tourist to
>actually do any exploring on your own.  
>
>> or blessed with a lot of leftover high technology from the past - compared
>to West Coast 
>> cities i have lived in. 
>
>Let's see.  Hawaii's total population is a wiggle over 1-1/4 million.  There
>is no industrial base here and there's not a lot of surplus.  Oh, wow!  This
>is really meaningful.  Oh, and it's still "I".
>
>> ( Maybe all the pre-owned books and retired technology is exported to
>landfills in my state, 
>> Oregon - but we're tiring of that. ) 
>
>Using you as a shining example, it's not much different from the residents.
>
>> What about this: There's a "Pacific Aviation Museum" out near Pearl. Kind
>of a small but 
>> brave operation.
>
>More guts than you have, to be sure.  But these are also the folks who want
>complete systems rather than pieces parts of them and, aside from the Grade
>B SCR-274-N, I don't have any.  
>
>> I don't think they have a lot of unexhibited stuff in storage, believe me.
>It seems to me such 
>> a display would be something they could value. 
>
>It's "unexhibited".  Your superior attitude about the literacy level here is
>sinking even faster.  
>
>You don't think they have much in storage but you don't know.  You didn't
>ask or offer to help, did you.  No, doing either would be beneath you.
>
>> So although this museum is not a major player, they do have backing and do
>have drive, 
>> initiative. 
>
>Aside from the unions (a good subject not to get me started on), we don't
>have much in the way of heavy hitters beyond the military presence.  There
>aren't any big corporations nor is there a huge population to draw from.
>There are just people holding down jobs that barely pay enough to live on
>trying to make their way.  So, sue us.  
>
>> However, i have to comment that - i think Hawaii just milks the WW2 thing
>too hard. 
>
>Awww, poor baby.  It draws tourists and they're 80+% of the state's income.
>Deal with it.  
>
>> I would rather see a "Pacfic Navigation Museum" that included more of any
>trans-Pacific 
>> navigations, 
>
>So, work your fat lazy butt off and make one!  (Oh, and it's "Pacific."
>This literacy thing is really getting to you, isn't it.)
>
>> I think a lack of other touristy type attractions is what leads so many to
>go to see the 
>> Arizona, 
>
>No, it's the historic value that makes tourists go see the ARIZONA.  I
>remember a Japanese couple who saw it and when I met them in Waikiki kept
>apologizing for what their ancestors had done.  That memorial was their
>primary reason for coming here and, from what they told me, they weren't the
>only ones.  
>
>As far as touristy attractions, Waikiki is a fantasyland.  It's not Hawaii;
>it's what people want to believe is Hawaii.  You never went out and actually
>saw the real Oahu, did you.  What a shame.  Of course, you would have
>actually have come to understand the place better and wouldn't make such
>idiotic claims as you did above.  As it is, though, what you've said simply
>shows your total ignorance and bigotry.
>
>> which i don't think is much of a touristy type thing, really
>
>Thank God no one here cares what you think.  
>
>> and some vets here have complained about a "circus environment" among
>> the visitors there
>
>They - and you - are invited to never return.  Your kind is unwelcome here.
>
>> ......but enough on that already.
>
>No, no.  You opened this door so let’s discuss it.  No, I'll type; you shut
>up and read.
>
>The visitor behavior is not unlike that at other war memorials.  I served
>aboard the USS HORNET which is now a museum.  When I visited her last, there
>was a tour group going through made up of young couples with and without
>children.  To them, it was an adventure - kind of a theme park without
>rides.  I tagged along partway because the tour guide had a lot of questions
>for me since I had been a crewmember.  What I saw from the tour group
>frustrated me no end but then I realized even the adults had no concept of
>what they were seeing.  
>
>The ARIZONA memorial isn't special as to how the tourists behave.  Maybe if
>your vets spoke up and gave some real history rather than muttering into
>their beer, some of them might have appreciated it.  I know that the tour
>group did when I kind of hijacked them from the tour guide aboard HORNET ...
>but then, so did he.
>
>In the meantime, let people make their own decisions on whether or not to
>help me finish the systems.  All you're doing is being a hindrance and
>making yourself look more the ignorant self-righteous fool for doing so.
>You clearly don't want to help so shut up and get out of the way.
>
>If you can't handle this, then please observe the mistletoe attached to my
>shirt tail.
>
>Michael, WH7HG BL01xh
>http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx 
>http://wh7hg.blogspot.com/ 
>http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com 
>Hiki Nô! 
>
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