[Milsurplus] "Disposition When the Time Comes"

[Kludge]

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[mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Hue Miller
> Learning that a certain equipment collection in Hawaii will go the
landfill after the owner 
> expires - now there's a persuasive argument for NOT contributing any
hardware you might 
> value from your own accumulation, with that particular collector. 

What the matter, Hue, too much a sniveling coward to call me by name?  It's
Michael "Kludge" Tauson.  Get used to it.  You've had a problem with me
since I joined the lists so now it's my turn.  

Up front and before anything else, how *DARE* you suggest not allowing me to
complete my collection?  Are you afraid I may gain some additional
recognition?  Why not offer a means of disposal like taking them yourself
when I'm finished with the important part of their mission here, that being
the photos for the book?  I can happily forgo operating it or using it for
show 'n tell if someone presents me with a good home afterward.  Thus far,
though, that hasn't happened and you've shown your true colors in what
you've said.  

> I can understand why the dump might seem the unvoidable [sic] terminus.
>From a quick 
> look in the Honolulu Oahu phonebook, it - no deprecation intended - 

Oh, really?  If that were the case, you wouldn't have written this drivel.

> does not seem the otherwise paradise islands are particularly literate ( i
[sic] judge this by 
> "used book stores" ) 

First off, you aren't a shining example of literacy yourself.  It's
"unavoidable" and the personal pronoun I is capitalized no matter where it
appears in a sentence.  Second, you come to this conclusion from a phone
book?  Have you ever actually been to Hawaii?  You have?  *Where* did you
go?  Oh, yeah.  You were too busy being an obnoxious pestulant tourist to
actually do any exploring on your own.  

> or blessed with a lot of leftover high technology from the past - compared
to West Coast 
> cities i have lived in. 

Let's see.  Hawaii's total population is a wiggle over 1-1/4 million.  There
is no industrial base here and there's not a lot of surplus.  Oh, wow!  This
is really meaningful.  Oh, and it's still "I".

> ( Maybe all the pre-owned books and retired technology is exported to
landfills in my state, 
> Oregon - but we're tiring of that. ) 

Using you as a shining example, it's not much different from the residents.

> What about this: There's a "Pacific Aviation Museum" out near Pearl. Kind
of a small but 
> brave operation.

More guts than you have, to be sure.  But these are also the folks who want
complete systems rather than pieces parts of them and, aside from the Grade
B SCR-274-N, I don't have any.  

> I don't think they have a lot of unexhibited stuff in storage, believe me.
It seems to me such 
> a display would be something they could value. 

It's "unexhibited".  Your superior attitude about the literacy level here is
sinking even faster.  

You don't think they have much in storage but you don't know.  You didn't
ask or offer to help, did you.  No, doing either would be beneath you.

> So although this museum is not a major player, they do have backing and do
have drive, 
> initiative. 

Aside from the unions (a good subject not to get me started on), we don't
have much in the way of heavy hitters beyond the military presence.  There
aren't any big corporations nor is there a huge population to draw from.
There are just people holding down jobs that barely pay enough to live on
trying to make their way.  So, sue us.  

> However, i have to comment that - i think Hawaii just milks the WW2 thing
too hard. 

Awww, poor baby.  It draws tourists and they're 80+% of the state's income.
Deal with it.  

> I would rather see a "Pacfic Navigation Museum" that included more of any
trans-Pacific 
> navigations, 

So, work your fat lazy butt off and make one!  (Oh, and it's "Pacific."
This literacy thing is really getting to you, isn't it.)

> I think a lack of other touristy type attractions is what leads so many to
go to see the 
> Arizona, 

No, it's the historic value that makes tourists go see the ARIZONA.  I
remember a Japanese couple who saw it and when I met them in Waikiki kept
apologizing for what their ancestors had done.  That memorial was their
primary reason for coming here and, from what they told me, they weren't the
only ones.  

As far as touristy attractions, Waikiki is a fantasyland.  It's not Hawaii;
it's what people want to believe is Hawaii.  You never went out and actually
saw the real Oahu, did you.  What a shame.  Of course, you would have
actually have come to understand the place better and wouldn't make such
idiotic claims as you did above.  As it is, though, what you've said simply
shows your total ignorance and bigotry.

> which i don't think is much of a touristy type thing, really

Thank God no one here cares what you think.  

> and some vets here have complained about a "circus environment" among
> the visitors there

They - and you - are invited to never return.  Your kind is unwelcome here.

> ......but enough on that already.

No, no.  You opened this door so let’s discuss it.  No, I'll type; you shut
up and read.

The visitor behavior is not unlike that at other war memorials.  I served
aboard the USS HORNET which is now a museum.  When I visited her last, there
was a tour group going through made up of young couples with and without
children.  To them, it was an adventure - kind of a theme park without
rides.  I tagged along partway because the tour guide had a lot of questions
for me since I had been a crewmember.  What I saw from the tour group
frustrated me no end but then I realized even the adults had no concept of
what they were seeing.  

The ARIZONA memorial isn't special as to how the tourists behave.  Maybe if
your vets spoke up and gave some real history rather than muttering into
their beer, some of them might have appreciated it.  I know that the tour
group did when I kind of hijacked them from the tour guide aboard HORNET ...
but then, so did he.

In the meantime, let people make their own decisions on whether or not to
help me finish the systems.  All you're doing is being a hindrance and
making yourself look more the ignorant self-righteous fool for doing so.
You clearly don't want to help so shut up and get out of the way.

If you can't handle this, then please observe the mistletoe attached to my
shirt tail.

Michael, WH7HG BL01xh
http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx 
http://wh7hg.blogspot.com/ 
http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com 
Hiki Nô!