[Milsurplus] Taxes

[J. Forster]

A similar thing happened to the MIT UHF RA fleas in Ca,mbridge, MA. Now
the City of Cambridge gets a big chunk of the seller space fees, and I
think that the Cambridge requires a fire detail in a solid concrete
parking garage.

-John

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> George, California is already there ... has been for some time for at
> least one of our swaps ....
>
> Here in the LA area we have had the infamous "TRW Swap Meet" for a long
> time.  I started going back in the mid 70's when it was first come first
> serve for sellers - no fees.  I used to buy and sell regularly back then.
>
> Several things have changed with that venue.  As time went on, it became a
> general flea market rather than a ham swap meet.  People were selling
> everything - clothes, toys, and other non-radio stuff.  Wanting to keep it
> radio-relevant, the organizers (TRW Ham Club)  began requiring that
> sellers have a ham license and around that time started charging for
> spaces to sell.  They enforced the rule that you sell only radio-related
> stuff.  Admission was (and still is) free.  I did not mind that -- and it
> kept out the riff-raff.
>
> Sometime around 2000 the uberlords of Redondo Beach (TRW home town) showed
> up and decided they need a cut of the action and demanded that sellers
> obtain retail selling permits and pay city taxes.  It was soon after that
> I stopped selling (for other reasons) but I had shared a spot with a
> friend of mine who already had a retail sellers permit.
>
> Things have changed.  Everyone gets their cut today -- W6TRW (which I
> really don't object to at all), State of California and the City of
> Redondo Beach.  Like others have said, much of this stuff IS second hand
> and should NOT be taxed multiple times. But that seems to be the American
> Way anymore.  I seem to recall a little tune by the Beatles to that effect
> ...
>
> A quick review of the swap meet's Web site --
> http://w6trw.com/swapmeet/swapmeet.htm  --  rules and regulations state
> that if you sell more than twice in a 12 month period, the Kalifornia
> State Board of Equalization requires you to have a KSBE seller's permit.
> And it looks like the City of Redondo Beach gets THEIR cut by charging
> each seller a $5 monthy "event tax,"  included as part of the seller's
> monthly fees.
>
> Needless to say, I don't attend very often anymore.  And there is still a
> lot of non-radio detritus being sold off ....
>
> Don't know about other hamfest/swap meets in California, but at least this
> one has encountered the taxman and he has won!
>
> 73,
>
> -dennis W6DQ
> Fullerton, CA  DM13av
>
>
>
>
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> From: "gl4d21a at juno.com" <gl4d21a at juno.com>
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 2:37:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Taxes
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> Group:
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> This issue came up in Texas related to garage sales.  IIRC, there is an
> exemption for someone selling personal property fewer than X times per
> year.  Don't recall what X is, but likely around 2 or 3.  The tax bunch
> showed up at some Ham swapfest about the same time, one which I did not
> happen to attend, and I hear that some of the sellers took down price
> signs, stopped selling, and started giving away for free  low value items
> whenever the taxers were in sight.  I think the issue was 15 or more years
> ago, but with all the taxing entities bleeding red ink, look for it to
> rear its ugly head again, and soon in places like CA.
>
> 73,
> George
> W5VPQ
>
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