[Milsurplus] Milsurplus Digest, Vol 74, Issue 35: hi-fi/sci-fi

[Henry Mei'l's]

Talking about audiophools:

One of my friends told me a about a converstation he had with an 
audiot/auidiophool:

The audiot said that you need a special type of conductor between the the 
power socket and your hi-fi rig, to keep distortion down.
My friend replied, but what about the house wiring leading up to the socket?



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>   1. Audiophools (Richard Grosser)
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>   3. Re: Audiophools (John Flood)
>   4. Re: Audiophools (KD7JYK DM09)
>   5. Re: Audiophools (Pete Lancashire)
>   6. Re: signal corps stamp (arc5 at ix.netcom.com)
>   7. Re: Audiophools (J. Forster)
>   8. Re: [ARC5] Test set help (J. Forster)
>   9. Re: Audiophools (Todd, KA1KAQ)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:13:00 -0700
> From: "Richard Grosser" <richard at palmspringsairmuseum.org>
> Subject: [Milsurplus] Audiophools
> To: <Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
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> I recording engineer that I met told me this story:
>
> He was recording a famous British rock band (no names, please) and one of
> the performers told him that the mike cable that he was using was 
> "rubbish"
> and he would only record with the red special mike cable. He did not have 
> a
> red mike cable, but he had a spool of red cable. He cut off a length of 
> this
> cable and threw it on the floor so that it looked like it was connected. 
> The
> performer then did another mike check and told everyone how much of an
> improvement it was and anyone could easily hear the difference. Mark Twain
> once said that a mine is a hole in the ground with a fool at the bottom 
> and
> a liar at the top. The same applies to the "Premium Audio Business".
>
>
>
> Richard C. Grosser
>
> Palm Springs Air Museum
>
> 745 N. Gene Autry Trail
>
> Palm Springs, CA 92262
>
> (760) 778-6262 X233
>
> Mobile: (760) 898-6888
>
> www.PalmSpringsAirMuseum.org
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:37:12 -0500
> From: <joldenburg2 at new.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Audiophools
> To: Richard Grosser <richard at palmspringsairmuseum.org>,
> Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <20100623173713.HOE7V.32289.root at hrndva-web02-z01>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Some of the stuff these company's are selling is amazing. Speaker cables 
> that have voltage placed on the insulation (what?) to balance the 
> capacitance of the insulation???
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Audioquest-Gibraltar-36V-DBS-Speaker-Cables-Shotgun-12-/160447645316?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255b6cc684
> ---- Richard Grosser <richard at palmspringsairmuseum.org> wrote:
>
> =============
> I recording engineer that I met told me this story:
>
> He was recording a famous British rock band (no names, please) and one of
> the performers told him that the mike cable that he was using was 
> "rubbish"
> and he would only record with the red special mike cable. He did not have 
> a
> red mike cable, but he had a spool of red cable. He cut off a length of 
> this
> cable and threw it on the floor so that it looked like it was connected. 
> The
> performer then did another mike check and told everyone how much of an
> improvement it was and anyone could easily hear the difference. Mark Twain
> once said that a mine is a hole in the ground with a fool at the bottom 
> and
> a liar at the top. The same applies to the "Premium Audio Business".
>
>
>
> Richard C. Grosser
>
> Palm Springs Air Museum
>
> 745 N. Gene Autry Trail
>
> Palm Springs, CA 92262
>
> (760) 778-6262 X233
>
> Mobile: (760) 898-6888
>
> www.PalmSpringsAirMuseum.org
>
>
>
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>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:36:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: John Flood <kb1fqg at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Audiophools
> To: joldenburg2 at new.rr.com, Richard Grosser
> <richard at palmspringsairmuseum.org>, Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Cc: Ralph R Preston <Wolfster-MA at comcast.net>, REMartinson at rcn.com
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>
> It's all clear to me now!!!??
>
> "Electrical and magnetic interaction between strands in a conventional 
> cable is the single greatest source of distortion, often causing a 
> somewhat harsh, dirty and confused sound. Solid conductors are the most 
> important ingredients enabling Gibraltar?s very clear sound."
>
> Confused sound!!!? My brain must be wired with stranded conductors!? and 
> do I get this right, connect 36V to each ear, that will help bootstrap 
> shield my head to shield the unwanted signals that the tin foil hat will 
> miss?
>
> Yes I'm ot but it just keeps getting better and better.....to pull it on 
> track, it looks like a BC-779 with PS will be on hold for me at a yardsale 
> this weekend
> I do need another right?!?
>
> John Flood KB1
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: "joldenburg2 at new.rr.com" <joldenburg2 at new.rr.com>
>> To: Richard Grosser <richard at palmspringsairmuseum.org>; 
>> Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
>> Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 1:37:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Audiophools
>>
>> Some of the stuff these company's are selling is amazing. Speaker cables 
>> that
>> have voltage placed on the insulation (what?) to balance the capacitance 
>> of the
>> insulation???
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Audioquest-Gibraltar-36V-DBS-Speaker-Cables-Shotgun-12-/160447645316?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255b6cc684
> ---- 
>> Richard Grosser <> 
>> href="mailto:richard at palmspringsairmuseum.org">richard at palmspringsairmuseum.org>
>> wrote:
>
> =============
> I recording engineer that I met told me this
>> story:
>
> He was recording a famous British rock band (no names, please) and
>> one of
> the performers told him that the mike cable that he was using was
>> "rubbish"
> and he would only record with the red special mike cable. He did
>> not have a
> red mike cable, but he had a spool of red cable. He cut off a
>> length of this
> cable and threw it on the floor so that it looked like it was
>> connected. The
> performer then did another mike check and told everyone how
>> much of an
> improvement it was and anyone could easily hear the difference.
>> Mark Twain
> once said that a mine is a hole in the ground with a fool at the
>> bottom and
> a liar at the top. The same applies to the "Premium Audio
>> Business".
>
>
>
> Richard C. Grosser
>
> Palm Springs Air
>> Museum
>
> 745 N. Gene Autry Trail
>
> Palm Springs, CA 92262
>
> (760)
>> 778-6262 X233
>
> Mobile: (760) 898-6888
>
>> href="http://www.PalmSpringsAirMuseum.org">www.PalmSpringsAirMuseum.org
>
>
>>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:46:51 -0700
> From: "KD7JYK DM09" <kd7jyk at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Audiophools
> To: <Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
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> "Confused sound!!! My brain must be wired with stranded conductors! and do 
> I
> get this right, connect 36V to each ear, that will help bootstrap shield 
> my
> head to shield the unwanted signals that the tin foil hat will miss?"
>
> I once connected a TENS device to my temples to try and alleviate pain 
> from
> nerve damage on the 5th cranial nerve.  Between the wrong setting and a
> loose connector, I just about blew my brains out!  Pretty lights, 
> though...
>
> Kurt
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:57:47 -0700
> From: Pete Lancashire <pete at petelancashire.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Audiophools
> To: John Flood <kb1fqg at yahoo.com>, milsurplus
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>> Yes I'm ot but it just keeps getting better and better.....to pull it on 
>> track, it looks like a BC-779 with PS will be on hold for me at a 
>> yardsale this weekend
>> I do need another right?!?
>
> Need ? .. is there someone in your life that would object ? ...
>
> -pete
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:36 AM, John Flood <kb1fqg at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> It's all clear to me now!!!
>>
>> "Electrical and magnetic interaction between strands in a conventional 
>> cable is the single greatest source of distortion, often causing a 
>> somewhat harsh, dirty and confused sound. Solid conductors are the most 
>> important ingredients enabling Gibraltar?s very clear sound."
>>
>> Confused sound!!!? My brain must be wired with stranded conductors!? and 
>> do I get this right, connect 36V to each ear, that will help bootstrap 
>> shield my head to shield the unwanted signals that the tin foil hat will 
>> miss?
>>
>> Yes I'm ot but it just keeps getting better and better.....to pull it on 
>> track, it looks like a BC-779 with PS will be on hold for me at a 
>> yardsale this weekend
>> I do need another right?!?
>>
>> John Flood KB1
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: "joldenburg2 at new.rr.com" <joldenburg2 at new.rr.com>
>>> To: Richard Grosser <richard at palmspringsairmuseum.org>; 
>>> Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
>>> Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 1:37:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Audiophools
>>>
>>> Some of the stuff these company's are selling is amazing. Speaker cables 
>>> that
>>> have voltage placed on the insulation (what?) to balance the capacitance 
>>> of the
>>> insulation???
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Audioquest-Gibraltar-36V-DBS-Speaker-Cables-Shotgun-12-/160447645316?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255b6cc684
>> ----
>>> Richard Grosser <> 
>>> href="mailto:richard at palmspringsairmuseum.org">richard at palmspringsairmuseum.org>
>>> wrote:
>>
>> =============
>> I recording engineer that I met told me this
>>> story:
>>
>> He was recording a famous British rock band (no names, please) and
>>> one of
>> the performers told him that the mike cable that he was using was
>>> "rubbish"
>> and he would only record with the red special mike cable. He did
>>> not have a
>> red mike cable, but he had a spool of red cable. He cut off a
>>> length of this
>> cable and threw it on the floor so that it looked like it was
>>> connected. The
>> performer then did another mike check and told everyone how
>>> much of an
>> improvement it was and anyone could easily hear the difference.
>>> Mark Twain
>> once said that a mine is a hole in the ground with a fool at the
>>> bottom and
>> a liar at the top. The same applies to the "Premium Audio
>>> Business".
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard C. Grosser
>>
>> Palm Springs Air
>>> Museum
>>
>> 745 N. Gene Autry Trail
>>
>> Palm Springs, CA 92262
>>
>> (760)
>>> 778-6262 X233
>>
>> Mobile: (760) 898-6888
>>
>>> href="http://www.PalmSpringsAirMuseum.org">www.PalmSpringsAirMuseum.org
>>
>>
>>>
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:29:57 -0500
> From: <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] signal corps stamp
> To: <Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bruce MacMillan" <radio at telus.net>
> Subject: [Milsurplus] signal corps stamp
>
>
>> Last night a friend gave me an RCA AVR-11 receiver...
> Pardon my green eyes, Bruce.  ;-)  Nice find.
> That is indeed a U.S. Army Signal Corps inspection stamp.
> Lots of the RCA AVR/AVT-series equipment got drafted
> early in the war.
>
> 73 Dave S.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:37:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quik.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Audiophools
> To: joldenburg2 at new.rr.com
> Cc: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <63589.12.6.201.2.1277332677.squirrel at popaccts.quikus.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Turns out, the amp in the Accura commercial is a real product:
>
> Jolida JD 502
>> B<http://www.jolida.com/index.php?p=products&category=2&model=17>
>
> Thanks to a friend.
>
> -John
>
> =====================
>
>
>
>> Some of the stuff these company's are selling is amazing. Speaker cables
>> that have voltage placed on the insulation (what?) to balance the
>> capacitance of the insulation???
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Audioquest-Gibraltar-36V-DBS-Speaker-Cables-Shotgun-12-/160447645316?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255b6cc684
>> ---- Richard Grosser <richard at palmspringsairmuseum.org> wrote:
>>
>> =============
>> I recording engineer that I met told me this story:
>>
>> He was recording a famous British rock band (no names, please) and one of
>> the performers told him that the mike cable that he was using was
>> "rubbish"
>> and he would only record with the red special mike cable. He did not have
>> a
>> red mike cable, but he had a spool of red cable. He cut off a length of
>> this
>> cable and threw it on the floor so that it looked like it was connected.
>> The
>> performer then did another mike check and told everyone how much of an
>> improvement it was and anyone could easily hear the difference. Mark 
>> Twain
>> once said that a mine is a hole in the ground with a fool at the bottom
>> and
>> a liar at the top. The same applies to the "Premium Audio Business".
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard C. Grosser
>>
>> Palm Springs Air Museum
>>
>> 745 N. Gene Autry Trail
>>
>> Palm Springs, CA 92262
>>
>> (760) 778-6262 X233
>>
>> Mobile: (760) 898-6888
>>
>> www.PalmSpringsAirMuseum.org
>>
>>
>>
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>> "A bicycle can't stand on it's own because it is two tired..."
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:48:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quik.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] [ARC5] Test set help
> To: "Discussion of AN/ARC-5 military radio equipment."
> <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <54555.12.6.201.2.1277333336.squirrel at popaccts.quikus.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Aha! Thanks very much,
> Robert.
> -John
>
> =============
>
>
>> "DAY-44" plus the four or five digits preceding it, is the Signal Corps
>> Order Number.  "DAY" means Dayton (Ohio) Procurement District (or Depot).
>> "44"
>> means Fiscal Year 1944 (between 01 July 1943 and 30 June 1944).
>>
>> In a message dated 6/23/2010 3:50:58 PM Central Daylight Time,
>> vk2bcu at operamail.com writes:
>>> On "e" I find the freq meter (described below).  Item ID is :
>>> 110548908304
>>> The point of interest is "Day 44" - because this is the same day the
>>> "glide bomb" appeared.  Mr. Mike, is this of interest.
>>>
>>> Beyond this, it seems that someone sold a warehouse of gear, and it's
>>> dribbling
>>> onto the market.  There may be a gem lurking in there ....
>>>
>>> Les
>>>
>>
>> Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
>> wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
>> MVPA 9480
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:46:01 -0400
> From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Audiophools
> To: jfor at quik.com
> Cc: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID:
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>
> Looks similar, but a few differences including the tubes (KT88s vs
> 6550s) and number/layout of the knobs. The one in the ad might be an
> earlier model or prototype of some sort.
>
> There are some really nice new tube amps and other gear out there
> using the tubes and caps we so dearly crave. If not for the audio
> industry and guitar amp folks, it's doubtful that much of the new
> production stuff we enjoy (like the new AES Twist-Lok electrolytic
> cans) wouldn't be available. Radioheads, particularly the ones who
> prefer tube gear, are few in number compared to the them.
>
> But that doesn't make the snake oil salesmen and new-age experts any
> less amusing. :D There's a big difference between those who truly
> appreciate a quality piece of gear and those who believe a $400 wooden
> knob will make their amp sound better or some purple oxygen-free wires
> can somehow offset the sins of their regular old house wiring - not to
> mention all that power company cable outside.
>
> ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:37 PM, J. Forster <jfor at quik.com> wrote:
>> Turns out, the amp in the Accura commercial is a real product:
>>
>> Jolida JD 502
>>> B<http://www.jolida.com/index.php?p=products&category=2&model=17>
>>
>> Thanks to a friend.
>>
>> -John
>>
>
>
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