[Milsurplus] Memorial Day

Sun May 24 11:59:49 EDT 2009

As for Colin Powell discussing the below with the
Archbishop of Canterbury, Urban Legends indicates
there is some truth to the "bury" phrase, the 
two incidents on record show Powell made this or  
similar comments in two different venues, neither 
one being in England.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl-colin-powell.htm

The full speech by Powell, which also has the exchange
between then SecState Powell and then former Archbishp of
Canterbury, George Carey, can be found at:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050223091222/http://www.weforum.org/site/homepublic.nsf/Content/Remarks+from+Colin+Powell,+US+Secretary+of+State

Snopes also shows it as true, but does use the phrase former
Archbishop, as well.

In "the for what it is worth" department,
the French do have a nuclear powered aircraft
carrier:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_de_Gaulle_(R_91)

73
Sheldon
WA4MZZ

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Bittner <mmab at cox.net>
Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009 4:26 am
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Memorial Day

> When in England, at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was 
> asked by the 
> Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an 
> example of 
> empire building' by George Bush.
> He answered by saying, 'Over the years, the United States has sent 
> many of 
> its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom 
> beyond 
> our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in 
> return is 
> enough to bury those that did not return.'
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> There was a conference in France where a number of international 
> engineers 
> were taking part, including French and American. During a break 
> one of the 
> French engineers came back into the room saying 'Have you heard 
> the latest 
> dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft carrier to 
> Indonesia to 
> help the tsunami victims. What does he intended to do, bomb them?'
> A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: 'Our carriers have 
> three 
> hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are 
> nuclear 
> powered and can supply emergency electrical power to shore 
> facilities; they 
> have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three 
> meals a 
> day, they can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from 
> sea water 
> each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in 
> transporting 
> victims and injured to and from their flight deck. We have eleven 
> such 
> ships; how many does France have?'
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  A  U.S.  Navy Admiral was attending a naval conference that 
> included 
> Admirals from the U.S., English, Canadian, Australian and French 
> Navies. At 
> a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large group 
> of 
> Officers that included personnel from most of those countries. 
> Everyone was 
> chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a French 
> admiral 
> suddenly complained that, 'whereas Europeans learn many languages, 
> Americans 
> learn only English.' He then asked, 'Why is it that we always have 
> to speak 
> English in these conferences rather than speaking French?'
> Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied 'Maybe it's 
> because the 
> Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Americans arranged it so you 
> wouldn't have to 
> speak German.'
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> AND THIS STORY FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE ABOVE...
> 
> Robert Whiting, an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by 
> plane. At 
> French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport in 
> his carry 
> on. 'You have been to France before, monsieur?' the customs 
> officer asked 
> sarcastically. Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to France 
> previously.'Then you should know enough to have your passport ready.'
> The American said, 'The last time I was here, I didn't have to 
> show it.' 
> 'Impossible. Americans always have to show your passports on 
> arrival in 
> France!' The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard look. 
> Then he 
> quietly explained. 'Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-
> Day in '44 
> to help liberate this country, I couldn't find a single Frenchmen 
> to show a 
> passport to.'
> 
> 
> 
> 73 Mike, W6MAB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Stinson" <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>
> To: <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Memorial Day
> 
> 
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jim Whartenby" <antqradio at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Memorial Day
> >
> >> I, for one, just wish that more people stepped up to the plate
> >> and served in the military.  Perhaps there would be fewer hawks
> >> and more doves in the world?
> >
> > "He who beats his swords into plowshares
> > shall plow for him who does not...."
> >
> >
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