[Milsurplus] German Vehicle "Frame Antenna", again

[wf2u at ws19ops.com]

There is also a Russian website discussing various military frame antennas.
In fact the Soviet (and Warsaw Pact) armies used these antennas quite a lot.
If there is interest, I'll retrieve the link to the site and will post  
it. I can also scan some reference material that was written by a  
former East German Signal Corps officer, after the German reunification.

73, Meir WF2U
Landrum, SC

Quoting Ryan Gill <rmgill at mindspring.com>:

> At 9:21 AM -0700 5/5/09, Hue Miller wrote:
>> A year or so back we discussed some US Army
>> publication that talked about NVIS and German
>> vehicular "loop antennas". I described this as
>> fiction, BS by an overenthusiastic imagination.
>
> You described the German use of Frame Antennas as fiction?
>
>> I the other day looked at a photo of a German
>> SdKfz 251/6 Command Vehicle, half tracked.
>
> You'll find these on their long range rear link
> command half tracks. SdKfz 250 and 251
> derivatives. And you'll find them on the SdKfz
> 222 and 232 derivative armoured cars for rear
> link purposes.
>
> Case in point, this 232 8 Rad (Fu)
> http://www.panzer-reich.co.uk/images/armoured-cars/fu-sdkfz232-8-rad/SdKfz232-1.jpg
>
> My understanding is that these antennas were for
> rear link communications between the armoured car
> or panzer group operating at long range from
> their larger parent formation.
>
> There's an excellent article over on Army Radio
> Sales in the UK on this subject by Hue Miller
> ka7lxy E-Mail kargokult at proaxis.com.
>
> More on the 30WS and 80WS, by Hue Miller KA7LXY
> It's very interesting that the German scout and
> command vehicle set-ups included low medium wave
> equipment in the MWEc receiver and the 30WSa and
> 80WS. this equipment was carried in addition to
> the more generally distributed low-vhf equipment
> of the UKW series, ( UKW = Ultra Kurzwelle =
> ultrashort wave ) with its shorter range of less
> than 5 miles.
>
> The apparent logic was to provide a stronger
> ground wave signal which would follow the lay of
> the land better, over hill country, for example.
> of course in motion this was fairly impractical
> to operate with a standard antenna, so when you
> see photos of German scout cars you will see what
> is called a "frame antenna" around the top deck,
> which looks rather like a handrail.
>
> This antenna itself was not practical for the
> command Panzer ( AFVs ) so these, in addition to
> the usual UKW mast antenna of about 1.5 meters
> length also carried another robust and heavy mast
> antenna with some capacitive "whiskers" from the
> top, called "Sternantenna" = "star antenna. The
> 30WS covers 1000 - 3000 kc/s so it is well suited
> to amateur radio operation, either A1 or A3, on
> the 160 meter band, simply by supplying the
> correct voltages.
> --
> --
> Ryan Gill              rmgill at SPAMmindspring.com
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