[Milsurplus] Milsurplus Digest, Vol 68, Issue 28
jdam
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Thu Dec 17 12:45:12 EST 2009
I think I have a bunch of those...just have to find them :-)
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> 1. Re: 1N21's and 1N23's (Michael Tauson)
> 2. Re: Sorta off topic question (Richard Brunner)
> 3. Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q? (Mike Morrow)
> 4. Re: Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q? (wa5cab at cs.com)
> 5. Re: Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q? (Greg Werstiuk)
> 6. Re: Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q? (Mike Morrow)
> 7. Re: Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q? (J. Forster)
> 8. Re: Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q? (Greg Werstiuk)
> 9. Re: Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q? (J. Forster)
> 10. Re: Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q? (Todd, KA1KAQ)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:20:05 -1000
> From: Michael Tauson <wh7hg.hi at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] 1N21's and 1N23's
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
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> At one point in my life, I had a bunch of 1N21s of some stripe that
> just had the screw in the fat end. They went into various RF bridges
> in place of 1N34s and worked superfine. I wonder if I can uncover a
> cache of another bunch somewhere since I have to make more bridges.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael, WH7HG
> --
> http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx
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> http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com
> Hiki N?!
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:29:11 -0500
> From: Richard Brunner <brunneraa1p at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Sorta off topic question
> To: milsurplus <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
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> Thanks for the commentary guys. I've looked at photos of the RMCA
> equipment in the SS John Brown and the SS Jeremiah O'Brien, and a few
> other photos, and none have the yellow tag on my receiver. So, mine may
> have been special in some way, though there is nothing special about the
> receiver.
>
> Richard, AA1P
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 12:57 -0500, Richard Brunner wrote:
>> Here's another one.
>> I have an RMCA AR-8506-B receiver from a WWII Liberty ship, with a
>> yellow metal tag on front marked:
>>
>> USA
>> LIB-44-234
>>
>> "44" matches the 1944 date on the nameplate, but 234 does not compute.
>> If it were hull number it would be at least 1800 by 1944. The s/n on
>> the receiver is 44585, which doesn't relate either. Any clues? It
>> would be nice to have provenance on this receiver.
>>
>> Richard, AA1P
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:42:08 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
> From: Mike Morrow <kk5f at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [Milsurplus] Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q?
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> Jack wrote:
>
>>On that auction place, there is a BC-348 listed that has
>>an aircraft number N 7286 marked on the front panel.
>
> That number had me curious too when I saw it a few days ago.
>
> This BC-348-Q appears from the rather good photos that were
> part of the listing to be in very decent and completely stock
> condition, including the DM-28-Q. Yet, the "buy it now" price
> (INCLUDING SHIPPING!!) was less than $280.
>
> I remember such receivers in well-used condition going for
> about $70 (plus shipping) from Fair Radio and others in the late
> 1950s through 1960s. Adjusting for inflation, the auction price
> of this item is equivalent to $45 in 1968. One certainly could
> not have easily found a BC-348 selling for that little back then.
>
> My real question: Why do you suppose this remarkable bargain
> went unsold for several days until just before the auction was about
> to close? Bad economy??? Or perhaps a general loss of interest
> in classic military radio gear???
>
> I would have predicted it to have been sold within the first four
> hours of the initial listing.
>
> Mike / KK5F
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:28:15 EST
> From: wa5cab at cs.com
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q?
> To: kk5f at arrl.net, milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
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> I'll table my personal opinion of the BC-348-JNQ for the moment :-) and
> make two guesses.
>
> First, a sizable percentage of people still think the going price ought to
> be around $70 (but in 2009 dollars). Opinion based on comments I've read
> here but mostly on the Boatanchors list on this same server. Opinion not
> limited to BC-348's and not limited to military sets. I think of it as
> the
> "Stuck in the Sixties" syndrome.
>
> Second (and unrelated to or independent of the first) a sizeable
> percentage
> of eBay bidders always wait until the last few minutes to bid. My wife
> sells full time on eBay (well, I do too, but these days mostly only fixed
> price
> multiple item). We generally end all of her auctions at Noon. Averaged
> over at least the past three years, whatever her total is at Midnight the
> night before the auctions end, at Noon they will usually end at 145-155%
> of
> that. The bad economy that began the week following Election Day 2008
> didn't
> change that significantly. It only dropped the Midnight and Noon figures
> both
> around 35% +/-. And surprisingly, not so much what things sold for but
> more from how many items sold.
>
> In a message dated 12/16/2009 9:42:32 PM Central Standard Time,
> kk5f at earthlink.net writes:
>> Jack wrote:
>>
>> >On that auction place, there is a BC-348 listed that has
>> >an aircraft number N 7286 marked on the front panel.
>>
>> That number had me curious too when I saw it a few days ago.
>>
>> This BC-348-Q appears from the rather good photos that were
>> part of the listing to be in very decent and completely stock
>> condition, including the DM-28-Q. Yet, the "buy it now" price
>> (INCLUDING SHIPPING!!) was less than $280.
>>
>> I remember such receivers in well-used condition going for
>> about $70 (plus shipping) from Fair Radio and others in the late
>> 1950s through 1960s. Adjusting for inflation, the auction price
>> of this item is equivalent to $45 in 1968. One certainly could
>> not have easily found a BC-348 selling for that little back then.
>>
>> My real question: Why do you suppose this remarkable bargain
>> went unsold for several days until just before the auction was about
>> to close? Bad economy??? Or perhaps a general loss of interest
>> in classic military radio gear???
>>
>> I would have predicted it to have been sold within the first four
>> hours of the initial listing.
>>
>> Mike / KK5F
>>
>
> Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:42:47 -0800
> From: "Greg Werstiuk" <greg_werstiuk at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q?
> To: "'Mike Morrow'" <kk5f at arrl.net>, <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP67F912D820F34193EA898B9D860 at phx.gbl>
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> Not sure it was a "remarkable bargain".
>
> BC-348 prices tend to be all over the map...
>
> In the last few weeks two of the best BC-348s I've ever seen (looked like
> new) closed at about $300 and $695, including the mounts. On the other
> hand, others in lesser but not junk condition sold for as little as $95.
>
> -
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Morrow
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:42 PM
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Milsurplus] Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q?
>
> Jack wrote:
>
>>On that auction place, there is a BC-348 listed that has
>>an aircraft number N 7286 marked on the front panel.
>
> That number had me curious too when I saw it a few days ago.
>
> This BC-348-Q appears from the rather good photos that were
> part of the listing to be in very decent and completely stock
> condition, including the DM-28-Q. Yet, the "buy it now" price
> (INCLUDING SHIPPING!!) was less than $280.
>
> I remember such receivers in well-used condition going for
> about $70 (plus shipping) from Fair Radio and others in the late
> 1950s through 1960s. Adjusting for inflation, the auction price
> of this item is equivalent to $45 in 1968. One certainly could
> not have easily found a BC-348 selling for that little back then.
>
> My real question: Why do you suppose this remarkable bargain
> went unsold for several days until just before the auction was about
> to close? Bad economy??? Or perhaps a general loss of interest
> in classic military radio gear???
>
> I would have predicted it to have been sold within the first four
> hours of the initial listing.
>
> Mike / KK5F
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:22:33 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
> From: Mike Morrow <kk5f at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q?
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>>Not sure it was a "remarkable bargain".
>
> Well, I'll defer to your expertice and experience. I've only been
> tracking this stuff for 45 years.
>
> Mike / KK5F
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:05:27 -0800 (PST)
> From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quik.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q?
> To: "Mike Morrow" <kk5f at arrl.net>
> Cc: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <2232.12.6.201.203.1261029927.squirrel at popaccts.quik.com>
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> FWIW:
>
> It's near Christmas. People are buying presents with what money they have.
> The economy is still down. Jobs are not easy to get.
> There are huge increases in taxes on the horizon.
> A BC-348 is not a PPN-1. They are NOT rare, or even scarce.
>
> Just my guess,
> -John
>
> ===============
>
>
>>>Not sure it was a "remarkable bargain".
>>
>> Well, I'll defer to your expertice and experience. I've only been
>> tracking this stuff for 45 years.
>>
>> Mike / KK5F
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:45:39 -0800
> From: "Greg Werstiuk" <greg_werstiuk at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q?
> To: "'Mike Morrow'" <kk5f at arrl.net>, <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP643E807B2FF1F13F4A182E9D860 at phx.gbl>
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> And I off and on for 39 years and especially on eBay for the last 4 or 5.
>
>
> A "remarkable bargain" implies the "Buy It Now" price was substantially
> below market for the item at auction.
>
> Can you explain why this was a "remarkable bargain" considering the
> historical pricing seen for BC-348 receivers on eBay for the recent 4-5
> years?
>
> Perhaps I missed something about this particular receiver which makes it
> an
> outstanding and much more desirable unit than the others which can be
> found
> currently for auction and in auctions which closed during the most recent
> 90
> days. (Yes, it was the "Q" version but that isn't particularly rare.)
>
>
> Two recent examples which sold:
>
> $235
> 170417748819 BC-348P with mount. Some mods which appear to be easily
> reversible if one wants a stock/original unit. Appearance is nearly new.
> Condition/appearance are in the vicinity of the best units seen on eBay.
>
>
> $655
> 220520415821 BC-348Q with mount & dynamotor. Various caps & resistors
> replaced presumably due to necessity rather than enhancements/changes.
> Possibly looks as good as it did when it rolled off the line. This is the
> highest price I believe I've seen paid for a BC-348.
>
> The other units which sold for $100 or so during the most recent 90 days
> had
> various holes in cases, non-original knobs and AC replacement power
> supplies
> and similar or poorer appearance to your "remarkable bargain".
>
>
>
> -
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Morrow
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:23 PM
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q?
>
>>Not sure it was a "remarkable bargain".
>
> Well, I'll defer to your expertice and experience. I've only been
> tracking this stuff for 45 years.
>
> Mike / KK5F
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:45:13 -0800 (PST)
> From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quik.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q?
> To: "Greg Werstiuk" <greg_werstiuk at msn.com>
> Cc: 'Mike Morrow' <kk5f at arrl.net>, milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
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> All it takes is two gullible buyers, or one gullible buyer and a BIN.
> Auctions are as much emotion as common sense.
>
> -John
>
> =============
>
>
>> And I off and on for 39 years and especially on eBay for the last 4 or 5.
>>
>>
>> A "remarkable bargain" implies the "Buy It Now" price was substantially
>> below market for the item at auction.
>>
>> Can you explain why this was a "remarkable bargain" considering the
>> historical pricing seen for BC-348 receivers on eBay for the recent 4-5
>> years?
>>
>> Perhaps I missed something about this particular receiver which makes it
>> an
>> outstanding and much more desirable unit than the others which can be
>> found
>> currently for auction and in auctions which closed during the most recent
>> 90
>> days. (Yes, it was the "Q" version but that isn't particularly rare.)
>>
>>
>> Two recent examples which sold:
>>
>> $235
>> 170417748819 BC-348P with mount. Some mods which appear to be easily
>> reversible if one wants a stock/original unit. Appearance is nearly new.
>> Condition/appearance are in the vicinity of the best units seen on eBay.
>>
>>
>> $655
>> 220520415821 BC-348Q with mount & dynamotor. Various caps & resistors
>> replaced presumably due to necessity rather than enhancements/changes.
>> Possibly looks as good as it did when it rolled off the line. This is
>> the
>> highest price I believe I've seen paid for a BC-348.
>>
>> The other units which sold for $100 or so during the most recent 90 days
>> had
>> various holes in cases, non-original knobs and AC replacement power
>> supplies
>> and similar or poorer appearance to your "remarkable bargain".
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Greg
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Morrow
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:23 PM
>> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q?
>>
>>>Not sure it was a "remarkable bargain".
>>
>> Well, I'll defer to your expertice and experience. I've only been
>> tracking this stuff for 45 years.
>>
>> Mike / KK5F
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:14:39 -0500
> From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Why Such Little Bidding On BC-348-Q?
> To: jfor at quik.com
> Cc: Mike Morrow <kk5f at arrl.net>, Greg Werstiuk
> <greg_werstiuk at msn.com>, milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
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> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:45 AM, J. Forster <jfor at quik.com> wrote:
>> All it takes is two gullible buyers, or one gullible buyer and a BIN.
>> Auctions are as much emotion as common sense.
>
> And value is based entirely on opinion. One man's priceless relic is
> another man's interesting gadget, and still another man's worthless
> piece of junk meant to be shot down or recycled, no comparison with
> what's available today, and so on.
>
> The other things to consider are good ol' supply and demand, along
> with overall interest. Ebay not only saved a lot of stuff from going
> to the landfill, it made folks aware that others would actually pay
> money for what they perhaps thought was as an old junk toaster oven.
> I'd bet for every one you see on ebay (not including truly rare items,
> of course), dozens get sold privately. At the end of the day, with
> little interest (if any) following behind us, people have pretty much
> 'gotten theirs' and supply will overwhelm demand as time goes on,
> until folks go back to not bothering with the old black toaster oven,
> and just toss it instead.
>
> ~ Todd, KA1KAQ/4
>
>
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