[Milsurplus] mast poles, follow-up

Tue May 27 15:57:01 EDT 2008

I've got both types poles here.  Use 5 of the fibreglass ones to support the middle of my 30 meter dipole.

Bought 3 bags of them back probably 15 or so years ago at a surplus
place on the west side of Tucson.  They had hundred of those bags
stacked out by one of their buildings.  Don't remember which it
was but i think it was the gibreglass ones that had the 3 legged
paddles that you could swing around in a circle.  Was told that
they were indeed for camoflage support.  I've still got two of the
bags out here so i could look up numbers if anyone needs the
info.  BTW, they were selling the bags for $20 eas full of ploes,
ropes for guying, one had the metal spikes and both had the guy
rings.  No hammer though.  One also had the piece that is
driven into the ground (insulated) that the mast set on.  My
fibreglass units have the collar on one end.  

Larry

W0OGH

 -------------- Original message from Bill MacLane <ai4wm at yahoo.com>: --------------

> The aluminum version is also available in white.  
> You can get the entire kit from Coleman's Surplus.
> http://colemans.com/
> 
> Some use the net spreaders as a base.  I do not think
> it is very safe, but I have seen it done.
> 
> 73,
> Bill
> --- Bill MacLane  wrote:
> 
> > Ray and the Group,
> > If the poles are what I think they are both are
> > camouflage support system poles.  These poles are
> > part
> > of the no longer issued LCSS (Lightweight Camouflage
> > Support System)  They were issued in woodland
> > (green)
> > plastic (fiberglass) and aluminum.  Both can be
> > safely
> > used as antenna supports to 45 -- 50 ft.  There are
> > fellows out there who use these up to 80 and 90
> > feet,
> > but that is pushing the limit.  
> > 
> > I use these every Field Day and for portable
> > operation.  I would not erect the fiberglass ones
> > for
> > a permanent installation. Fiberglass binders
> > deteriorate in sunlight.
> > 
> > There are many of the newer lightweight poles from
> > this series being sold CHEAP.  They crack, split and
> > break.
> > They have plastic collars on the female ends that
> > are
> > worthless.  Others have no collar at all.  The poles
> > are fine if one reinforces the female end.  I used
> > 1-1/4 inch sch. 80 PVC couplings turned to a press
> > fit
> > and epoxied them to my poles and they worked fine.
> > 
> > Some of these kits come with fiberglass or plastic
> > guy
> > rings.  These rings are made to steady cammo
> > netting,
> > not guying a mast.  They will break.
> > 
> > I like the aluminum versions for all but deploying
> > an
> > inverted-V since the center pole would be conductive
> > using aluminum.
> > 
> > I have more information on these, including FSN and
> > other identifiers, but to not bore you all I'll not
> > make this email any longer.  I will be posting it on
> > my  webpages sometime.
> > 
> > 73,
> > Bill
> > AI4WM
> > --- WA5CAB at cs.com wrote:
> > 
> > > Ray,
> > > 
> > > Seems I recall someone asking a similar question
> > on
> > > G503 and the answer given 
> > > was that the fiberglass poles are for camoflage
> > > netting or something like 
> > > that.
> > > 
> > > In a message dated 5/27/2008 9:36:08 AM Central
> > > Daylight Time, 
> > > rafantini at salisbury.edu writes: 
> > > > I went to the Howard County ham fest last
> > Sunday,
> > > nothing like Dayton but a 
> > > > lot closer. Did see an ARC-5 receiver and a rack
> > > mount HP-608 for $10 each, 
> > > > along with the same broken PRC-174 that was at
> > > Timonium, looks a lot like a 
> > > > PRC-104 and am told that broken is there natural
> > > state.
> > > > But the question I have is about mast poles, the
> > > same company was at Dayton 
> > > > selling lots of aluminum and fiberglass mast
> > that
> > > are OD green. Hams buy 
> > > > these things by the truck load and call them
> > > military mast but I have to wonder. 
> > > > Did the US military ever use fiberglass poles?
> > And
> > > I thought that all the 
> > > > temporary mast I have seen like the AB-952 and
> > the
> > > like were heavier 
> > > > construction. Is there a huge supply of third
> > > world substandard mast on the market or is 
> > > > this what the last of the mill spec kits were?
> > > > Ray Fantini KA3EKH
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Robert Downs - Houston
> > >  (Web Store)
> > > MVPA 9480
> > >  (Primary email)
> > >  (Backup email)
> > >    
> > > >
> >
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> > 73,
> > Bill
> > AI4WM
> > 
> > 
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> 73,
> Bill
> AI4WM
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