[Milsurplus] Re: Stinson Scale

[joldenburg2 at new.rr.com]

I think tha your problem here is that just rating according to rarity does not correlate directly to price. Example in rack thjere is a mint restored Collins R-390/ URR one of 16,600 purportedly produced current market value is in the 900.00 range . Below it a Nems Clark 1012 Survlience Reciver with matching frequency mutiplier, same condition Only about 200 made, value about 350.00. 

Simple market dynamics, there is far less demand for an all-mode analog tuned 100-1000 mHz  rig than there is for the medium wave short wave reciver. 

The rarity factor is good for helping you determine the chances of obtaining a rig but is not always an indicator of market value in its own. 
---- Dave And Merrijoy <merrijoy at comcast.net> wrote: 

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Hi Robert,
I'm not sure I'm following you.  To my way of thinking, there is a definite relationship, 
linear or otherwise, between value and availability with availability being the
barometer for a unit's value.  Value can be determined in either $$ or how much a person
wants and desires to have what is being sold.
Actually, I was putting down my thoughts in response to Ray KA3EKH's post which
occurred 4 minutes before mine in which he was speaking of the importance of knowing 
the value of collectible rigs, facts that have come from his 30+ years of collecting.
I believe the word "value" has come up in this discussion before; however, in my
recent posting, here's what I said; "...Personally, I'd like to use the scale for my own 
perception of value and availability..."  I reckon the key words are 
"my own perception." 
When I get ready to purchase an item, whether it is radio or anything else for that matter, and I
have an idea it may be limited in availablility, I'd like to know to just what extent I
may or may not be "getting the business" from the seller.  I can think back to several
rigs I paid really good money for that had I known of a scale to determine the
availability of said unit, I could have saved myself time, money and perhaps 
some stress, not to mention having to come up with some good arguments to my XYL 
as to why I bought that particular rig.
But, there are exceptions both ways, too.
Oh well...I reckon the line "...in the eyes of the beholder..." applies here also.
Take care.
Dave w9ocm


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: WA5CAB at cs.com 
  To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Re: Stinson Scale


  Now, nothing's been said heretofore about tying availability to value.  There is certainly no linear relationship between the two.  There are Common up to Scarce items that bring high dollar.  And if I thought about it a little while I could come up with some examples that are probably Rare to Extinct that if you did find an absolutely mint condition example of you probably couldn't give it away even if you paid shipping.

  In a message dated 12/3/2008 10:53:01 AM Central Standard Time,  

    I would think that even with the proposed and accepted scale, it still 
    depends on the
    owner/seller to use integrity in listing any given piece of gear.
    Personally, I'd like to use the scale for my own perception of value and 
    availability.
    This is one area I'm weak in and a scale would help.



    For well over thirty years I have been collecting and using military surplus 
    radio, although I do not consider myself a expert or authority on the 
    subject I would have to put forth the statement that to the serious 
    collector they know the value and the difficulty involved in obtaining 
    specific items and that not all items are equally valued by each collector.
    Establishing a list or guideline may be of great assistance to the new 
    collector, but beware the list member who proposes to know the availability 
    or the true value of all items. Establishing such a list on an open forum is 
    certain to lead to debate.




  Robert Downs - Houston
  wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
  MVPA 9480 


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