[Milsurplus] eBay does it

Carl at hughes.net boatguy at hughes.net
Tue Aug 26 20:51:47 EDT 2008 

Well its time to tell my story about Pay Pal I so;d a Collins KWM 2 A  last 
August about this time shipped very fast (next day) had it pro packed at UPS 
Store it arrived 2 days later.In Oct last fall I get a notice that the buyer 
stopped payment on Pay Pal tru his credit card.I faught it to no availe.They 
tied up my pay pal account and in Jan of this year I got my Radio and power 
supply back total out of pocket cost to me was a shade over 300.00 and I had 
to contact police in this guys home town .Guess what he is a lawyer.PAY PAL 
SUCKS
Whats this wal mart thing
Carl
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kim.herron at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Revcom" <revcom at wbsnet.org>; "Ben Dover" <quixote2 at ix.netcom.com>; "J 
Forster" <jfor at quik.com>; <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it


> Hi Rod!!
>
>    Ditto on the credit card transactions.  I cancelled my merchants credit 
> card service when I sold my mobile tool service.  But since my wife's pet 
> grooming salon is now at the house and is all but set up to go here, we're 
> in process of restoring the credit card service.  You're right on the 
> transaction fee, so the prices reflect it.  I predict that Wal-Mart/Sam's 
> are going to get a FLOOD of people signing up for their card service, just 
> to deal with E-Bay's/Paypal's Bovine Manure.  I will say this about the 
> credit card service.  IF a buyer has any doubts about a person doing 
> business (at least here in MI) with you, the business checking account and 
> the VISA/MasterCard warrantee that's attached to the service usually gets 
> me past the questions.  I WOULD MUCH rather deal with VISA, MasterCard, or 
> American Express on a disputed purchase, than E-Bay.  Paypal shoots first 
> and doesn't bother to ask any questions, or return your money without 
> loads of the above-mentioned brown fecal matter.  VISA, MasterCard, AMEX 
> and Discover can't tie up my whole checking account and Paypal somehow can 
> manage to do just that.
>
> Kim Herron  W8ZV
> Golden Radio Service
> Kenowa Tool Service.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Revcom" <revcom at wbsnet.org>
> To: "Ben Dover" <quixote2 at ix.netcom.com>; "J Forster" <jfor at quik.com>; 
> <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
>
>
>> One can only say it is coming!  We run a business and take a multitude of 
>> credit cards, including PayPal.  Local bank, and am sure others are doing 
>> the same, is now issuing "traverler's cards".  These are plastic 
>> traveler's check devices that are 'preloaded' at the bank and processed 
>> just like any credit card.
>>
>> Now, big thing for us, we get "dinged" anywhere from 2.8-3.4 % on each 
>> transaction, depending on the card issuer.  Bank says it is a sign of the 
>> times and they predict they will NOT process paper checks in 5 years or 
>> less.  Of course there will always be CASH transactions but they forsee 
>> no paper drafts for payment being accepted by anyplace hardly.  They 
>> prefer ACH, automatic drafts, and everything electronic transfers.  I 
>> don't like it particularly in that if we have a lot of plastic 
>> transactions, it reduces our take by about 3%, that is an automatic 
>> overhead you can't escape. Thinking about not taking them, but banker 
>> says no.
>>
>> The younger generation is all for this, have a daughter, 20+ generation, 
>> and she does NOT carry cash nor a checkbook.  And says that none of her 
>> friends do either.  Sigh!  Long for $20 bills at swapfests!!
>>
>> E Pay might be ahead of the curve on this. Of course they own PayPal, 
>> financed by GE Money Bank.  As the ad says, "Whats in your wallet?".
>>
>> Rod
>> K0EQH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ben Dover" <quixote2 at ix.netcom.com>
>> To: "J Forster" <jfor at quik.com>; <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>; 
>> <hp_agilent_equipment at yahoogroups.com>; <GenRad at yahoogroups.com>; 
>> <AILtech at yahoogroups.com>; <armyradios at yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 12:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
>>
>>
>>> Yeah...  I saw this one come out late last week.
>>>
>>> The interesting part of it... they claim PayPal will make it easier and 
>>> safer to deal?
>>>
>>> Since Friday I've been trying to pay for a purchase through PayPal, and 
>>> after NUMEROUS attempts
>>> (as of this morning, 15 tries) the system is refusing to pay the seller!
>>>
>>> So far I've got one PayPal person corresponding by E-mail, and spent a 
>>> half hour with another
>>> one on the phone...   SHE was called to explain two mysterious $1.00 
>>> charges that appeared on
>>> my account on Saturday!
>>>
>>> She found no plausable reason for the problem...   and begged off with 
>>> "intermittent system
>>> glitch that we're chasing down now. It should be resolved shortly".
>>>
>>> That was on Sunday.
>>>
>>> So far, on Tuesday, no resolution...   and they want to force EVERYBODY 
>>> to give up the option of
>>> paying by other means, and deal with this "Charlie Foxtrot" of a 
>>> computer system???
>>>
>>> OMG...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mr. T., W9LBB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: J Forster <jfor at quik.com>
>>>>Sent: Aug 25, 2008 10:45 PM
>>>>To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net, hp_agilent_equipment at yahoogroups.com, 
>>>>GenRad at yahoogroups.com, AILtech at yahoogroups.com, 
>>>>armyradios at yahoogroups.com
>>>>Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
>>>>
>>>>http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/Payments/
>>>>
>>>>-John
>>>>
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