From Paul.Thekan at cpii.com Fri Aug 1 10:20:07 2008
From: Paul.Thekan at cpii.com (Thekan, Paul)
Date: Fri Aug 1 10:25:20 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Westinghouse MW-2 xmtr info needed
Message-ID: <33AB2CC4117229448172627C308F6E4401E9EF7B@mercury.cpii.com>
Where can I find information on this xmtr. Primarily I'd like to know
what power is required for the power supply..single phase , 3 phase ??
And what is the freq range and power out put of the xmtr. I know the set
is made up of a separate power supply , modulator and RF unit and that
the power supply weighs a LOT.
As always any help is much appreciated.
Thank you
Paul
N6FEG
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From Military1944 at aol.com Fri Aug 1 10:28:19 2008
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944@aol.com)
Date: Fri Aug 1 10:33:39 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] U-229 plug
Message-ID:
Anyone got a U-229 (mic plug for PRC74) they can sell me. Chap has them on
ebay but due to their highly classified and secret use they have in making
thermo nuclear weapons he states no outside US buyers !
If only Hal Kieda could get their hands on a few of these, what fun he would
have.
cheers, Ben.
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From tc0654 at mesh.net Fri Aug 1 11:47:08 2008
From: tc0654 at mesh.net (Steve Haney)
Date: Fri Aug 1 11:52:35 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] U-229 plug
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <4.1.20080801095330.044eacb8@pop.mesh.net>
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From jfor at quik.com Fri Aug 1 12:22:44 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Fri Aug 1 12:25:45 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] U-229 plug
References: <4.1.20080801095330.044eacb8@pop.mesh.net>
Message-ID: <48933854.A9C81CC1@quik.com>
The 6 pin connector is also used to power and load keys into voice
scramblers. That might account for the (stupid) restrictions.
Best,
-John
=============
Steve Haney wrote
[snip]
It may be worth noting that PRC-74A and later models use a 6 pin audio
connector, and plain -74 versions may have been modified (MWO
11-5820-35/1) to have the 6 pin connector. The mating 6 pin connector
is a U-329/U. Has something to do with sending CW.
>
> Good luck finding the connector.
From nick at 3rdtech.com Fri Aug 1 15:57:57 2008
From: nick at 3rdtech.com (Nick England)
Date: Fri Aug 1 16:03:17 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] March 1950 issue of "Electronics"?
Message-ID: <03fa01c8f410$e5603240$fd0212ac@Heathkit2>
Anyone got a copy of March 1950 issue of "Electronics", and could scan or
make a copy of pp. 70-73?
That's an aricle on the AN/FRT-5 and AN/FRT-6 Navy transmitters that I'd
like to look at.
thanks,
Nick KD4CPL
www.virhistory.com/navy
From Military1944 at aol.com Fri Aug 1 18:25:15 2008
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944@aol.com)
Date: Fri Aug 1 18:30:40 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] U-229 plug
Message-ID:
In a message dated 01/08/2008 16:47:50 GMT Daylight Time, tc0654@mesh.net
writes:
I choose not to ship out side of the US because of the additional time
required for handling the shipping,
? If I post a letter, or small packet, to a UK address, or US address, or
even Timbuktu, I can't really see it takes any longer or requires any more
effort. As for PP costs, well, tell ebay to stop forcing it on us.
Still, they are your bits so I guess you have every right to do with them as
you please.
It may be worth noting that PRC-74A and later models use a 6 pin audio
connector, and plain -74 versions may have been modified (MWO 11-5820-35/1) to
have the 6 pin connector. The mating 6 pin connector is a U-329/U. Has
something to do with sending CW
Yes, I know and have the 6 pin version but I only wanted to make up a
speaker lead so centre pin not needed.
Anyway, I'm sure one of the other members will help me out.
HAND, Ben.
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From Military1944 at aol.com Fri Aug 1 18:27:45 2008
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944@aol.com)
Date: Fri Aug 1 18:33:05 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] U-229 plug
Message-ID:
In a message dated 01/08/2008 17:22:09 GMT Daylight Time, jfor@quik.com
writes:
If you're really stuck, they show up at flea markets here. How many do
you need?
Best,
-John
---------------------
I only need 1 John. There is another seller on ebay, no restictions on where
he posts to !!, but he's selling a batch of 10 which is 9 too many, hi.
Ben.
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From revcom at wbsnet.org Fri Aug 1 19:32:25 2008
From: revcom at wbsnet.org (Revcom)
Date: Fri Aug 1 19:38:50 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Capacitors
Message-ID: <003201c8f42e$dac6e540$0801a8c0@alltel>
'Lo all.
I sent out about 100 capacitors, haven't heard back from some of the guys,
wanted to clarify the units we have.
They are -CM05ED-, 470 J03, 500V EM. Which are 47pf, two signi-
ficant figures, plus number of zeros, -0- being none of course. Makes
them 47pf, not 470pf which would be a -471-
I still have a LOT of these left, barely made a dent in my box. Runs about
$1.50, postage and all for 10 or 12 if you want any.
Also have a pretty good supply of some TO5 can op amps, will inventory
types if any interest, one is an RCA CA3100 I know for sure.
Sent a reply to Chris, W7JPG, keeps bouncing back.
Rod
K0EQH
From WA5CAB at cs.com Fri Aug 1 23:03:34 2008
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB@cs.com)
Date: Fri Aug 1 23:08:48 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] U-229 plug
Message-ID:
Ben,
I've no idea what it takes in order to mail a small package from the UK to
the US but you seem not to understand what it takes from here to there, and
never mind any added export restriction considerations. On small items valued at
less than about $30 and weighing less than 4 pounds and that one isn't
terribly concerned should they get lost or stolen you can use First Class Mail in a
small box. Not including postage itself, it costs me between $40 and $55 in
direct and indirect expenses to ship one small package. For a larger item
going Priority Mail the cost is about $10 to $15 more. Costs are a combination of
time to complete forms, time and petrol for the round trip to the PO, time
spent waiting in line to get up to the counter (in the que) and time spent at
the counter. By comparison, if I only have a few relatively lightweight items,
it's a 40 foot trip to the front door and back. Sometimes delayed slightly if
our little dog decides she wants to see what's out front first.
So before you bitch about sellers who won't ship a $10 or $15 or even $50
item to the UK, you should understand why many aren't willing to put up with the
hassle.
All that being said, my wife and I both ship anywhere. Vintage clothing
isn't on any restricted list and very little Korean War or earlier stuff is
either. I just cleaned up a used U-229/U. $10.00 plus shipping if you want it.
In a message dated 8/1/2008 5:25:51 PM Central Daylight Time,
Military1944@aol.com writes:
> In a message dated 01/08/2008 16:47:50 GMT Daylight Time, tc0654@mesh.net
> writes:
>
> >> I choose not to ship out side of the US because of the additional time
>> required for handling the shipping,
>
>
> ? If I post a letter, or small packet, to a UK address, or US address, or
> even Timbuktu, I can't really see it takes any longer or requires any more
> effort. As for PP costs, well, tell ebay to stop forcing it on us.
>
> Still, they are your bits so I guess you have every right to do with them
> as you please.
>
>
Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480
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From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com Fri Aug 1 23:46:35 2008
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Fri Aug 1 23:51:41 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Well Here goes another source of equipment
govliquidation up-ing the limits
Message-ID: <4893D89B.1090706@austin.rr.com>
All -
Got this notice today - Real sad now only the big boys with lots of cash can play.
Later
Hutch
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Valued Customer,
Please note that the minimum bid amount for Demil B & Q property will increase to $150, effective Tuesday, August 5th, 2008.
Thank you for your attention.
Sincerely,
Government Liquidation, LLC
Government Liquidation, 15051 N. Kierland Blvd. # 300, Scottsdale, AZ 85254
From dxguy at earthlink.net Sat Aug 2 02:04:50 2008
From: dxguy at earthlink.net (Don Davis)
Date: Sat Aug 2 02:10:02 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Well Here goes another source of equipment
govliquidation up-ing the limits
References: <4893D89B.1090706@austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <6F0C69670CA646C7B1C075B2D6E72D67@hppav>
Huh? What am I missing? $150 may have been "lots of cash" in, say
1600....
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hutchins"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:46 PM
Subject: [Milsurplus] Well Here goes another source of equipment
govliquidation up-ing the limits
> All -
>
> Got this notice today - Real sad now only the big boys with lots of
> cash can play.
>
> Later
> Hutch
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dear Valued Customer,
>
> Please note that the minimum bid amount for Demil B & Q property will
> increase to $150, effective Tuesday, August 5th, 2008.
>
From Military1944 at aol.com Sat Aug 2 04:15:15 2008
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944@aol.com)
Date: Sat Aug 2 04:20:39 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] trading up
Message-ID:
>>>Not including postage itself, it costs me between $40 and $55 in direct
and indirect expenses >>to ship one small package. For a larger item going
Priority Mail the cost is about $10 to $15 >>more. Costs are a combination of
time to complete forms, time and petrol for the round trip to >>the PO, time
spent waiting in line to get up to the counter (in the que) and time spent at
the >>counter.
----------------------------------------------
I guess it all depends upon if its a full time tax paying business or just
hams trading I guess. If I charged for my time and such just to post off a plug
to some other operator, as a ham not a business, then I guess that would
indeed bump up the total cost involved to get it from my hand into theirs.
But, I tend to use pre-used materials, maybe the odd bit of new (and very
costly) sticky tape or glue, then rather than make a special trip to the post
office (of course in the UK, being a tiny little island, they are within
walking distance most times) I simply take the envelope with me the next time I go
to town to buy a stale loaf. This way the expense to the buyer of the plug is
limited to the cost of the postage. Seems I might be doing myself out of a
lot of money. So, if everone could send me $5 to pay for my time writing this,
switching on the pc, the broadband connection, the coffee needed to wake up,
then I should be covered.
No, just joking.... about the $5 that is, not the rest.
Anyway, I guess the answer is to only buy non US sets in future. That should
save a lot of hassel, hi.
HAND, Ben.
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From nick at 3rdtech.com Sat Aug 2 09:13:47 2008
From: nick at 3rdtech.com (Nick England)
Date: Sat Aug 2 09:19:08 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] U-229 plug
References:
Message-ID: <003601c8f4a1$9979d6b0$6501a8c0@cs.unc.edu>
I wish it were otherwise, but I sympathize with people who choose not to
ship out of the US.
It is hard to imagine the incredible headache if something happens to the
shipment and you try to get the postal service to pay up on the insurance.
I sent a scope to France via Express Mail (supposedly 2-3 day delivery).
Four weeks later (after travels through Germany and Switzerland) it finally
showed up severely damaged. The US postal service said the claim had to be
filed in France - The French, of course, said it was a US problem. After six
months and getting my two senator's offices to harass the postal service, I
fiinally got a check.
And it ain't just the French - I've had commercial equipment spend months in
British customs purgatory.
Sorry, Ben - if I had a U-229, I'd just stick your address and a stamp on it
and hope for the best.
chers,
Nick
www.virhistory.com/navy .
From murphy at cts.com Sat Aug 2 10:11:04 2008
From: murphy at cts.com (mike murphy)
Date: Sat Aug 2 10:16:25 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: Milsurplus Digest, Vol 52, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <20080802030858.C548C859C7A@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20080802030858.C548C859C7A@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID:
>S
>In a message dated 01/08/2008 16:47:50 GMT Daylight Time, tc0654@mesh.net?
>writes:
>
>I choose not to ship out side of the US because of the additional time
>required for handling the shipping,
>
>
>? If I post a letter, or small packet, to a UK address, or US address, or?
>even Timbuktu, I can't really see it takes any longer or requires any more?
>effort. As for PP costs, well, tell ebay to stop forcing it on us.
>
>Still, they are your bits so I guess you have every right to do with them as
>you please.
>
>It may be worth noting that PRC-74A and later models use a 6 pin audio?
>connector, and plain -74 versions may have been
>modified (MWO 11-5820-35/1) to
>have the 6 pin connector. The mating 6 pin connector is a U-329/U. Has
>something to do with sending CW
>
>Yes, I know and have the 6 pin version but I only wanted to make up a?
>speaker lead so centre pin not needed.
>
>Anyway, I'm sure one of the other members will help me out.
>
>HAND, Ben.
>
>
>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Ben,
>
>I've no idea what it takes in order to mail a small package from the UK to
>the US but you seem not to understand what it takes from here to there, and
>never mind any added export restriction
>considerations. On small items valued at
>less than about $30 and weighing less than 4 pounds and that one isn't
>terribly concerned should they get lost or
>stolen you can use First Class Mail in a
>small box. Not including postage itself, it costs me between $40 and $55 in
>direct and indirect expenses to ship one small package. For a larger item
>going Priority Mail the cost is about $10 to $15
>more. Costs are a combination of
>time to complete forms, time and petrol for the round trip to the PO, time
>spent waiting in line to get up to the counter (in the que) and time spent at
>the counter. By comparison, if I only have a
>few relatively lightweight items,
>it's a 40 foot trip to the front door and back. Sometimes delayed slightly if
>our little dog decides she wants to see what's out front first.
>
>So before you bitch about sellers who won't ship a $10 or $15 or even $50
>item to the UK, you should understand why many
>aren't willing to put up with the
>hassle.
>
>All that being said, my wife and I both ship anywhere. Vintage clothing
>isn't on any restricted list and very little Korean War or earlier stuff is
>either. I just cleaned up a used U-229/U.
>$10.00 plus shipping if you want it.
>
>In a message dated 8/1/2008 5:25:51 PM Central Daylight Time,
>Military1944@aol.com writes:
>> In a message dated 01/08/2008 16:47:50 GMT Daylight Time, tc0654@mesh.net
>> writes:
>>?
>> >> I choose not to ship out side of the US because of the additional time
>>> required for handling the shipping,
>>
>>?
>> ? If I post a letter, or small packet, to a UK address, or US address, or
>> even Timbuktu, I can't really see it takes any longer or requires any more
>> effort. As for PP costs, well, tell ebay to stop forcing it on us.
>>?
>> Still, they are your bits so I guess you have every right to do with them
>> as you please.
> >
> >
Guys, it not the hassell, its the fear of the
feds making an issue if exporting military items
without a state dept lic that kills the deals.
( yes, they will even get you for a connector)
Mike
--
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401 NORTH JOHNSON AVE
EL CAJON, CA. 92020
619 444-7717 (VOICE)
FAX (619) 444-6750 (24 hour)
HOURS: M-F 9-6 SAT. 9-5 CLOSED SUNDAY
email: murphy@cts.com
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From murphy at cts.com Sat Aug 2 10:12:42 2008
From: murphy at cts.com (mike murphy)
Date: Sat Aug 2 10:18:06 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: Milsurplus Digest, Vol 52, Issue 2
In-Reply-To: <20080802080205.D73ED859D20@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20080802080205.D73ED859D20@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID:
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:46:35 -0500
>From: John Hutchins
>Subject: [Milsurplus] Well Here goes another source of equipment
> govliquidation up-ing the limits
>To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
>Message-ID: <4893D89B.1090706@austin.rr.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>All -
>
>Got this notice today - Real sad now only the big boys with lots of
>cash can play.
>
>Later
>Hutch
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Dear Valued Customer,
>
>Please note that the minimum bid amount for Demil B & Q property
>will increase to $150, effective Tuesday, August 5th, 2008.
>
>Thank you for your attention.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Government Liquidation, LLC
>
>Government Liquidation, 15051 N. Kierland Blvd. # 300, Scottsdale, AZ 85254
>
I wonder if that min counts for lots like junk cell phones worth maybe $10?
real fools, (* but seems the fools run the game these days)
MIke
--
MURPHY'S SURPLUS WAREHOUSE
401 NORTH JOHNSON AVE
EL CAJON, CA. 92020
619 444-7717 (VOICE)
FAX (619) 444-6750 (24 hour)
HOURS: M-F 9-6 SAT. 9-5 CLOSED SUNDAY
email: murphy@cts.com
*********NEW WEB SITE LOCATION http://murphyjunk.bizland.com/ **********
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The best things in life are not things
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From antqradio at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 2 11:16:13 2008
From: antqradio at sbcglobal.net (Jim Whartenby)
Date: Sat Aug 2 11:21:35 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: Milsurplus Digest, Vol 52, Issue 1
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <367088.62277.qm@web82705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
--- mike murphy wrote:
> Guys, it not the hassell, its the fear of the
> feds making an issue if exporting military items
> without a state dept lic that kills the deals.
> ( yes, they will even get you for a connector)
>
>
> Mike
Quite a commentary that those in the land of the free and the home of
the brave are reduced to fearing their own government, that any
misstep, however so slight, will reduce even further the precious
freedoms fought so hard for.
It's a shame; we seem to have shot ourselves in the foot.
Jim
From redmenaced at yahoo.com Sat Aug 2 11:42:37 2008
From: redmenaced at yahoo.com (Joe Foley)
Date: Sat Aug 2 11:47:58 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Well Here goes another source of equipment
govliquidation up-ing the limits
In-Reply-To: <4893D89B.1090706@austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <801908.92957.qm@web30404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I can't believe that anyone still deals with those jerks anyway!
I had enough years ago.
Joe
--- On Fri, 8/1/08, John Hutchins wrote:
> From: John Hutchins
> Subject: [Milsurplus] Well Here goes another source of equipment govliquidation up-ing the limits
> To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 11:46 PM
> All -
>
> Got this notice today - Real sad now only the big boys
> with lots of cash can play.
>
> Later
> Hutch
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dear Valued Customer,
>
> Please note that the minimum bid amount for Demil B & Q
> property will increase to $150, effective Tuesday, August
> 5th, 2008.
>
> Thank you for your attention.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Government Liquidation, LLC
>
> Government Liquidation, 15051 N. Kierland Blvd. # 300,
> Scottsdale, AZ 85254
>
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From WA5CAB at cs.com Sat Aug 2 15:46:32 2008
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB@cs.com)
Date: Sat Aug 2 15:51:46 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] R-100/URR Component Values
Message-ID:
Group,
I printed the R-100/URR alignment instructions and schematic and sent it to
someone. But I failed to notice that the schematic doesn't show the component
values, only the circuit symbol numbers. Does anyone have a parts list for
the set?
Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480
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From murphy at cts.com Sun Aug 3 11:55:25 2008
From: murphy at cts.com (mike murphy)
Date: Sun Aug 3 12:00:55 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: Milsurplus Digest, Vol 52, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <20080803080144.194D6859BF4@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20080803080144.194D6859BF4@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID:
>S
>
>Quite a commentary that those in the land of the free and the home of
>the brave are reduced to fearing their own government, that any
>misstep, however so slight, will reduce even further the precious
>freedoms fought so hard for.
>
>It's a shame; we seem to have shot ourselves in the foot.
>Jim
JIM
maybe they are not having much luck catching real criminals, so the
make them ( criminals) out of whoever is unlucky enough to get
cought in their web.
Mike
--
From cwopr at embarqmail.com Sun Aug 3 14:37:20 2008
From: cwopr at embarqmail.com (Bill Stewart)
Date: Sun Aug 3 14:42:50 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] R-100/URR Component Values
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <951994752.1030761217788640575.JavaMail.root@md37.embarq.synacor.com>
Bob, If you still need one, I can send you a copy (no scanner) by mail if you will pass along your mailing address...Bill K4JYS
----- Original Message -----
From: WA5CAB@cs.com
To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 3:46:32 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: [Milsurplus] R-100/URR Component Values
Group,
I printed the R-100/URR alignment instructions and schematic and sent it to someone.? But I failed to notice that the schematic doesn't show the component values, only the circuit symbol numbers.? Does anyone have a parts list for the set?
Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480
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From kargo_cult at msn.com Sun Aug 3 21:15:53 2008
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Sun Aug 3 21:24:09 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Agent set on submersible raft
References: <31059258.1216039099059.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID:
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Stinson"
http://www.realmilitaryflix.com/public/202.cfm?sd=61
> That's got to be on anyone's list of the silliest ideas ever.
> Can you think of anywhere an agent would want to be,
> where he wouldn't be caught with this contraption within ten minutes?
This must have been quite a bit of fun for the developers and that
swimmer in the film. However i wonder, anyplace a submarine can
release that raft, is going to be subject to tidal action and waves.
How would you like to assemble that radio hookup in sea swells?
Or splashes, or rain squalls?
BTW, didn't that look like the "Lucy" receiver?
Didn't appear real waterproofed. -Hue
From jcoward5452 at aol.com Mon Aug 4 12:01:06 2008
From: jcoward5452 at aol.com (jcoward5452@aol.com)
Date: Mon Aug 4 12:07:01 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Plugs and MT wanted
Message-ID: <8CAC4626FCC0FA6-C1C-2112@webmail-nh02.sysops.aol.com>
Greetings All,
I would like to finish up my AN/ARC-4 setup ,hopefully this year!
I need two Plug # 6965,these are the 3 pin power plugs to J-23/ARC-4
and one MT-80/ARC-5 to mount the J-23.
Thanks,
Jay KE6PPF
From Military1944 at aol.com Mon Aug 4 13:45:58 2008
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944@aol.com)
Date: Mon Aug 4 13:51:38 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] RME69 receiver
Message-ID:
Some time ago I asked about a tuning scale for the RME69 rx. Someone told me
there was a supplier (in the US) but I can not now find that email.
So, I'll have to repeat my question.
Does anyone know the supplier of replacement scales for the RME69 set ?
cheers, Ben.
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From Military1944 at aol.com Mon Aug 4 17:23:38 2008
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944@aol.com)
Date: Mon Aug 4 17:29:20 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] AM Modulator kits FS
Message-ID:
Pye AM Modulator, kit of parts from AM Vanguard.
15W modulator, including mod transformer, power
transistors, driver and transformer, pre amp board
and cct. ?15 +pp
I would think ideal to run Ws19, Command set, etc.
2 available.
Ben.
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From cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org Mon Aug 4 17:32:33 2008
From: cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org (Marty Reynolds)
Date: Mon Aug 4 17:41:44 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] R-100/URR Component Values
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <51640.72.158.92.94.1217885553.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>
Does anyone have a parts list
> for
> the set?
>
go to qsl.asti.com/R-100
From nick at 3rdtech.com Tue Aug 5 10:15:56 2008
From: nick at 3rdtech.com (Nick England)
Date: Tue Aug 5 10:21:31 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Shelby hamfest - interesting items
Message-ID: <009801c8f705$c75f5530$fd0212ac@Heathkit2>
Just over 3 weeks away -
The Shelby NC hamfest is one of the largest and oldest hamfests and attracts
vintage radio enthusiasts from across the eastern US. There are usually some
interesting military radio items scattered about the fleamarket amongst the
boatanchor ham gear.
This year the hamfest has moved a few miles up I-85 to Dallas, NC.
Info at http://www.shelbyhamfest.com/hamfest.htm
A gang of us will be hanging out at the BOATANCHORS!! banner as usual - set
up Thursday Aug 28
through Saturday Aug 30 (some folks stay through Sunday).
Looking forward to seeing you there and swapping gear and tall tales. I'm
particularly looking for Navy gear from the 1950's-60's.
Let's hear from other folks who are going.
73 & Have Fun,
Nick KD4CPL
www.virhistory.com/navy
From WA5CAB at cs.com Wed Aug 6 00:13:29 2008
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB@cs.com)
Date: Wed Aug 6 00:19:21 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Ersatz NE-48
Message-ID:
OK. The culprit who sent this must have moved or mailed it from his
mistress's apartment. The return address isn't in my database.
Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480
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From bl_6000 at yahoo.com.au Wed Aug 6 16:48:36 2008
From: bl_6000 at yahoo.com.au (Brad Latta)
Date: Wed Aug 6 16:54:21 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] 400 Hz transformer
Message-ID: <135278.73273.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I managed to find some winding details for a 400Hz filament transformer
Primary, 0 to 80v, 159 1/2 turns, 19 AWG, plus a further 69 turns 80 to 115v
Secondary, 13 1/2 turns of paralled 17 AWG. Now all I have to do is find a suitably sized core!
While I'm here, what is Radio Filter FL-5-F (order 514-WFSCPD-42) used with, and
Bendix Tuning meter MT-31C?
Regards, Brad
Find a better answer, faster with the new Yahoo!7 Search. www.yahoo7.com.au/search
From kk5f at earthlink.net Wed Aug 6 17:18:34 2008
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Wed Aug 6 17:24:30 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] 400 Hz transformer (FL-5, MT-31C)
Message-ID: <9068030.1218057514690.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Brad wrote:
> ...what is Radio Filter FL-5-F (order 514-WFSCPD-42) used with,
It's a common high impedance audio filter used with aircraft range receivers to pass the 1020 Hz A-N range signal while filtering out most other audio signals.
> and Bendix Tuning meter MT-31C?
It plugs into the front panel of the Bendix TA-12 series of transmitters to measure either PA or driver cathode current, depending on which of the two jacks it is plugged in to.
Mike / KK5F
From AAF-Radio-1 at aafradio.org Wed Aug 6 17:43:41 2008
From: AAF-Radio-1 at aafradio.org (Mike Hanz)
Date: Wed Aug 6 17:49:20 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] 400 Hz transformer
In-Reply-To: <135278.73273.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <135278.73273.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <489A1B0D.5040300@aafradio.org>
Brad Latta wrote:
>While I'm here, what is Radio Filter FL-5-F (order 514-WFSCPD-42) used with ?
>
RC-32 range filter addition for the early aircraft interphone sets -
http://aafradio.org/flightdeck/BC-213.htm
>and
>Bendix Tuning meter MT-31C?
>
Used with the TA-12* transmitter -
http://aafradio.org/flightdeck/bendix1.htm
73,
Mike KC4TOS
From WA5CAB at cs.com Wed Aug 6 17:54:49 2008
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB@cs.com)
Date: Wed Aug 6 18:00:48 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] bounce test
Message-ID:
bounce test
Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480
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From merrijoy at frontiernet.net Wed Aug 6 18:29:56 2008
From: merrijoy at frontiernet.net (Dave And Merrijoy)
Date: Wed Aug 6 18:35:45 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] ART-13
References: <135278.73273.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<489A1B0D.5040300@aafradio.org>
Message-ID: <003201c8f813$f4e8e570$02fea8c0@davehdv6x9zkbd>
Hello,
A new group has been formed on Yahoo. Just go to Yahoo Groups,
look for ART-13 and sign up. This is a group dedicated to the
restoration, use and discussion of the ART-13 transmitter.
I would like to say that we haven't formed it to be
competitive with any of the other fine groups; it's just an
enhancement to a particular type of military radio.
Thanks,
Dave w9ocm
From jpwatkins9 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 6 20:50:22 2008
From: jpwatkins9 at yahoo.com (John Watkins)
Date: Wed Aug 6 20:56:10 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] PRC-70 TM 11-5820-533-23P
Message-ID: <71585.966.qm@web32407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi All,
Does anyone know where I can purchase a copy or download one of these Manuals? I
already have the operators and the -23 maintance manual. The 23P has the parts locator,
etc.
Thanks
John WD5ENU/A45XV
From jpwatkins9 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 7 07:09:45 2008
From: jpwatkins9 at yahoo.com (John Watkins)
Date: Thu Aug 7 07:15:36 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] TM 11-5820-553-23P
Message-ID: <559680.35039.qm@web32407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Robert pointed out that I had a typo in the listing, the TM that I am looking for is above and is for the PRC-70.
Thanks,
John WD5ENU/A45XV
From chejmw at buffalo.edu Thu Aug 7 10:02:52 2008
From: chejmw at buffalo.edu (James M. Walker)
Date: Thu Aug 7 10:08:58 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] NORTEX SALES Texas
Message-ID:
Howdy Folks,
Does anyone know if these folks are still in business?
TNX
Jim
WB2FCN
From tc0654 at mesh.net Thu Aug 7 12:09:22 2008
From: tc0654 at mesh.net (Steve Haney)
Date: Thu Aug 7 12:15:26 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] NORTEX SALES Texas
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <4.1.20080807110825.015eab00@pop.mesh.net>
At 10:02 AM 8/7/2008 -0400, James M. Walker wrote:
>Howdy Folks,
>Does anyone know if these folks are still in business?
>TNX
>Jim
>WB2FCN
>
No, they are gone.
Steve Haney
Haney Electronic Co
8012 County Road 1009
Godley, TX 76044-3688
817-309-2220
817-480-2282 Cell
From jfor at quik.com Thu Aug 7 12:14:52 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Thu Aug 7 12:18:54 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] 400 Hz transformer
References: <135278.73273.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <489B1F7B.1CF1CAB2@quik.com>
It's likely wound on an E-I or C (tape wound) core, but one with thinner laminations than a 60 Hz
transformer to reduce iron loss.
Here's how to roughly estimate the core size:
You know the primary voltage and turns, hence you can compute the Volts/Turn (= roughly 0.5 V/T)
If you look in a core catalog, you can find a core size with roughly that number of V/T.. BUT you
must use the data for 400 Hz or scale 60 Hz data by 400/60. [ said another way, if a core has 1 V/T
@ 60 Hz, it will have 1 V/T * (400/60) = 6.66 V/T @ 400 Hz]
You then figure out how the winding fitted in the core "window" (# of T/layer; # of layers,
insulation thickness, bobbin size, etc.)
It's not difficult, but you should read up n it a bit.
BTW, getting laminations thin enough for 400 Hz in small quantities may not be easy.
I'd either try a 60 Hz unit or search places like Fair for a 400 Hz unit.
Best,
-John
==================
Brad Latta wrote:
> I managed to find some winding details for a 400Hz filament transformer
>
> Primary, 0 to 80v, 159 1/2 turns, 19 AWG, plus a further 69 turns 80 to 115v
>
> Secondary, 13 1/2 turns of paralled 17 AWG. Now all I have to do is find a suitably sized core!
>
> While I'm here, what is Radio Filter FL-5-F (order 514-WFSCPD-42) used with, and
> Bendix Tuning meter MT-31C?
> Regards, Brad
From Military1944 at aol.com Thu Aug 7 12:48:17 2008
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944@aol.com)
Date: Thu Aug 7 12:54:13 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] T1154 bits wanted
Message-ID:
You know what its like. Someone gives you a part stripped chassis for bits,
only to find there are still enough bits on it to make it restorable.
So, needed for T1154 restoration.
Red osc knob and fins
2 click stop mechs, (that go above knob)
The big green R's from the rear, namely
75k 25w 2 off
5k 25w
15k 25w
12k plus 2k 25w
If anyone has these on a scap chassis or in their junk box please let me
know.
cheers, Ben.
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From smithab11 at comcast.net Thu Aug 7 12:57:31 2008
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Thu Aug 7 13:03:16 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] W.M Perry Status
Message-ID: <00ba01c8f8ae$aee80ba0$7536c847@HAL1000>
Has anyone heard from the W. A. Perry Connector Company in Louisville?
I have not heard from Lt. Col Perry since the hamfest at Baltimore in April.
Hope he is OK.
breck k4che
From brunneraa1p at comcast.net Thu Aug 7 16:17:51 2008
From: brunneraa1p at comcast.net (Richard Brunner)
Date: Thu Aug 7 16:23:17 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] 400 Hz transformer
In-Reply-To: <489B1F7B.1CF1CAB2@quik.com>
References: <135278.73273.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<489B1F7B.1CF1CAB2@quik.com>
Message-ID: <489B586F.6010602@comcast.net>
Re:
>It's likely wound on an E-I or C (tape wound) core, but one with thinner laminations than a 60 Hz
>transformer to reduce iron loss.
>
It all depends on the design criteria. If you are designing for low
losses, low weight, etc, you will want thin laminations. You merely want
one that works, so use what you have. First try available 60 cycle
transformers, then play with transformer design. It isn't hard. Using
modest flux density the core losses won't be too high, and it will work
fine with thick (12-14 mil) laminations. 60 cycle power transformers
have been successfully used as modulation transformers, so operation at
400 cycles is no big deal.
Richard, AA1P
From k3ui at comcast.net Thu Aug 7 16:23:43 2008
From: k3ui at comcast.net (Richard Spargur)
Date: Thu Aug 7 16:29:51 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] 400Hz transformer
Message-ID: <092C1BA5E52847398E557359A79413E0@unk1>
I have had good work done by Heyboer Transformers. Phil can be emailed at
htovvp@charterinternet.com.
Attention: Phil
17382 Hayes St.
Grand Haven, Michigan 49417
Richard
K3UI
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:48:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brad Latta
Subject: [Milsurplus] 400 Hz transformer
To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <135278.73273.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I managed to find some winding details for a 400Hz filament transformer
Primary, 0 to 80v, 159 1/2 turns, 19 AWG, plus a further 69 turns 80 to 115v
Secondary, 13 1/2 turns of paralled 17 AWG. Now all I have to do is find a
suitably sized core!
While I'm here, what is Radio Filter FL-5-F (order 514-WFSCPD-42) used with,
and Bendix Tuning meter MT-31C?
Regards, Brad
From revcom at wbsnet.org Thu Aug 7 16:06:36 2008
From: revcom at wbsnet.org (Revcom)
Date: Thu Aug 7 17:06:07 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] TEST ONLY
Message-ID: <000701c8f8c9$18bccb00$0801a8c0@alltel>
TEST ONLY
Rod
From swkb4dmf at alltel.net Thu Aug 7 22:08:47 2008
From: swkb4dmf at alltel.net (Steve Williams)
Date: Thu Aug 7 22:02:07 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] W.M Perry Status
In-Reply-To: <00ba01c8f8ae$aee80ba0$7536c847@HAL1000>
Message-ID: <8236CDAA838949A49165A3A187DEED09@DEN3>
He's alive and well and I believe he plans on being at the hamfest at Fair
Radio this coming weekend. At least he did when I spoke to him a few days
ago. He and I are also setting up at Huntsville the following weekend.
Later,
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: milsurplus-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:milsurplus-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:58 AM
To: MILSURPLUS
Subject: [Milsurplus] W.M Perry Status
Has anyone heard from the W. A. Perry Connector Company in Louisville?
I have not heard from Lt. Col Perry since the hamfest at Baltimore in April.
Hope he is OK.
breck k4che
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From k3ui at comcast.net Fri Aug 8 08:17:01 2008
From: k3ui at comcast.net (Richard Spargur)
Date: Fri Aug 8 08:23:15 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] W. Perry Connector Company
In-Reply-To: <20080808080220.480FF859DE7@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20080808080220.480FF859DE7@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID:
I am in the hunt for either the dogbone cable, or connectors to make one,
for the AN/GRC-19, the cable between the T-195 and the R-392. Does anyone
have an email address for William Perry Connector Company, or better yet a
dogbone cable or connectors? Does anyone have good digital photos of the
cable to include the yellow CX-1599 cable label text?
Richard
K3UI
From jfor at quik.com Fri Aug 8 11:19:53 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Fri Aug 8 11:23:48 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] ART-13
References: <135278.73273.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<489A1B0D.5040300@aafradio.org>
<003201c8f813$f4e8e570$02fea8c0@davehdv6x9zkbd>
Message-ID: <489C6419.40CC9379@quik.com>
What's the exact Group home page URL please?
Best,
-John
===============
Dave And Merrijoy wrote:
> Hello,
> A new group has been formed on Yahoo. Just go to Yahoo Groups,
> look for ART-13 and sign up. This is a group dedicated to the
> restoration, use and discussion of the ART-13 transmitter.
> I would like to say that we haven't formed it to be
> competitive with any of the other fine groups; it's just an
> enhancement to a particular type of military radio.
> Thanks,
> Dave w9ocm
> ______________________________________________________________
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From jfor at quik.com Fri Aug 8 18:37:32 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Fri Aug 8 18:41:35 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] ISO Someone to Repair Receivers
Message-ID: <489CCAAC.23504B72@quik.com>
I've been helping the widow of a SK redistribute his treasures. In the
process of testing some of his receivers for sale at Boxboro, three
units have problems and I'd like to find someone reputable, and
preferably local, to repair the units before sale, so she gets a fair
price for the receivers. The units are:
Collins 75A-3
Collins 75A-4
Hammarlund SP-600
In all cases the receivers are in very good to excellent physical
condition with virtually no panel scratches. The guts are quite dusty.
No mice AFAIK. There are also original cases for the Collins units. I'm
not putting these units up on eBay (at the moment) because of the effort
to package them properly for shipping. We will be bringing some of his
other receivers to Boxboro.
If you are interested, please email me off-list. I'm looking for:
Someone to REPAIR the receivers for a reasonable price. I'm NOT
looking for someone to fully "restore" the units for a number of
reasons.
Preferably, to avoid shipping, I'd like to deliver the units to that
person either at Boxboro or at an MIT Flea or by other arrangement.
I'm also looking for someone who has a proven track record with this
gear. No first timer's please.
If you are interested in the receivers as-is, please email me. I do not
think there is very much wrong with any of them beyond a bad cap. or
tube, so please don't expect to buy them for a dollar or two. I am fully
capable of repairing them myself, but would prefer not to.
Thanks for reading this,
Best,
-John
================
From Military1944 at aol.com Sun Aug 10 14:53:32 2008
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944@aol.com)
Date: Sun Aug 10 15:00:01 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] T1154 bits
Message-ID:
Many thanks to those who replied re my T1154 bits request. I now have the
R's needed and a supplier for the knobs etc.
Having cut away all the wires not used, as the previous owner had removed
the relay and LW bits, I needed to add a couple of wires, to ground the neg line
during tx etc, and reconnect the modulator which had been messed with.
Anyway, with just the one pa tube the tx gives 7w o/p on cw with 450v,
putting 800v on it gives 25w o/p on cw with what is the best note I have ever
heard from a 54. No chirp and negligible drift.
As all the LW pa coils etc have been removed I'm tempted to build a psu into
that space. All the original plugs are on the front though so its a bit of a
dilemma, mod it further or use it with an external psu using its original
plugs.
Its always the way when a set, though modified, has enough originality to
make it worth keeping, hi.
Still, another good result.
thanks and cheers, Ben G4BXD
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From w1eof at hamnutz.com Sun Aug 10 15:50:56 2008
From: w1eof at hamnutz.com (w1eof@hamnutz.com)
Date: Sun Aug 10 15:57:18 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Nice neoprene cable
Message-ID: <489F46A0.1050907@hamnutz.com>
Some nice 8 cond X 16awg SO cable. It's .625" OD and very nice stuff. I
just bought a piece to use on my BC-223 with leftover for another
project. I'm thinking I might even buy some just to hang on to it. It's
not that easy to find rubber jacket cable any more.
I have no connection to the seller except as a happy customer. I was
referred to them by Pete N8PB.
Electronic Surplus, Inc
8755 Munson Road #6
Mentor OH 44060
440-205-8388
www.electronicsurplus.com
Search for Mfg P/N A007 or SKU 40973. It's $1.75 a foot. Web page says
50ft min, but don't believe it. I bought 13 feet for $22.75 + $8.55 S&H.
Mark W1EOF
From wb6orz at pacbell.net Sun Aug 10 18:33:03 2008
From: wb6orz at pacbell.net (Les Zwiebel WB6ORZ)
Date: Sun Aug 10 18:39:19 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] For Sale: Best Offer
Message-ID: <81035A54981A4DA7B9B173D17FAC0945@Shack>
Would like to place these items in the hands of Mil collectors, where they can be used or at least appreciated. My interests go to vintage tube commercial stuff, so I am not up on mil gear except for a couple of pieces I have like my 390A and URM25-D. Let me know if you can use these and/or what you think they're worth.
All of the following are NOS in Original Boxes:
1. NOS in a waxy box. Labelled Tube 2 X 2-879. Mfr. RCA. Spare Parts for US Navy Model DAU HF Ship DF. Federal Telephone and Radio Corp., Newark, New Jersey, USA. This box has never been opened.
2. 1 Ea. Modification Kit 3F3648-6.1 For AN/USM-24. Contains NOS assembly of components on a phenolic board, plus several envelopes of components.
3. Navy Stock No. F16-G-59001-1001 Sig C. Stock No. 3F3835-23
Description: Generator, Interference. Contract No. NObsr-52269 Radio Frequency Labs, Inc. Boonton, NJ. Date Packed: September 1953.
This is a handsome, black cylinder, about the size of a probe or a large marker pen, with a probe point on one end, a spring-loaded control on the other, and it is marked SG-23/U. In smaller letters, it is marked F16-G-59001-1001.
If nothing else, maybe someone could tell me what these are?
Thanks in advance.
(((((73)))))
Les
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From al at ar88.net Sun Aug 10 18:58:47 2008
From: al at ar88.net (Al Klase)
Date: Sun Aug 10 19:01:56 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] For Sale: Best Offer
In-Reply-To: <81035A54981A4DA7B9B173D17FAC0945@Shack>
References: <81035A54981A4DA7B9B173D17FAC0945@Shack>
Message-ID: <489F72A7.1080406@ar88.net>
Les Zwiebel WB6ORZ wrote:
> 3. Navy Stock No. F16-G-59001-1001 Sig C. Stock No. 3F3835-23
> Description: Generator, Interference. Contract No. NObsr-52269
> Radio Frequency Labs, Inc. Boonton, NJ. Date Packed: September 1953.
> This is a handsome, black cylinder, about the size of a probe
> or a large marker pen, with a probe point on one end, a spring-loaded
> control on the other, and it is marked SG-23/U. In smaller letters, it
> is marked F16-G-59001-1001.
>
>
Les,
You probably ought to keep that one. It's a signal injector, p/o the
USM-3A Test-Tool Set. It runs on one AA cell, and will give you a
signal at almost any point in any radio. Many times, it's all the test
equipment you need, and you can loose it in your tool box. Give it a
shot. You may have to push the buzzer out and twiddle the contact screw
to get it going. The knob at the back end is an attenuator.
Regards,
Al
--
Al Klase - N3FRQ
Flemington, NJ
http://www.skywaves.ar88.net/
From robandpj at earthlink.net Mon Aug 11 10:18:45 2008
From: robandpj at earthlink.net (Robert Flory)
Date: Mon Aug 11 10:25:50 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] URT-7
Message-ID: <410-220088111141845218@earthlink.net>
Hi,
Can someone tell me what the frequency multiplication scheme for this transmitter is? I want to crystal up the one on DD-850 so we can talk to BB-59s TDQ/RCK combo.
Rob Flory
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From skynite000 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 11 23:28:35 2008
From: skynite000 at yahoo.com (Skywarrior)
Date: Mon Aug 11 23:34:54 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] ARC-27 control box
Message-ID: <71395.97961.qm@web35704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi All,
I have a vintage C-626/ARC-27 control box that needs to find a new home. This is an early control for the ARC-27. It is the one that weighs about 10 pounds, has channel setting controls, has local/remote switch and an on and off switch. This unit was usually placed somewhere in the depths of the aircraft and the pilot was unable to control the radio with it, instead a much smaller simpler control such as the C-628 was used by the pilot or radio operator. This allowed the choice of 18 preset freq's, volume, and on off and guard function.
Anyway, this unit has seen some water damage in the rear of the unit, but it is not horrible and I believe it can be cleaned up and used. It most certainly would be an excellent parts donor if nothing else.
Since I have many of these things, the first $8.00 plus shipping takes it. I believe it can ship in the USPS flat rate box for $12.50.
TIA
Bruce
From kim.herron at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 12 21:50:21 2008
From: kim.herron at sbcglobal.net (kim.herron@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue Aug 12 21:56:45 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] SP-600/JX-28--R-620/Frr schematic
Message-ID: <00dd01c8fce6$f28c7cb0$41b2eb4c@HPa550y>
Hi Gang!!
Need some help here. I have the supplement manual to the TM
11-851 manual for the SP-600. I don't know the number of that
supplement, but if you have one, you do. I'd like to get a copy of the
whole schematic that is in the back of the thing and if you could pass
along the publication number that would also be nice. I'm quite willing
to pay you to get that copy made on a blueprint copier so it's in one
piece.
Thanks!!
Kim Herron W8ZV
1-616-677-3706
kim.herron at sbcglobal dot net
Looking for GE E-129
From bl_6000 at yahoo.com.au Tue Aug 12 23:11:59 2008
From: bl_6000 at yahoo.com.au (Brad Latta)
Date: Tue Aug 12 23:18:24 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] T-30-S
Message-ID: <582161.26089.qm@web38006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I have just acquired a T-30-S throat microphone, it is complete with strap, made by Univ.Micro.Co. Are these microphones carbon or coil? Across the two small plug pins it measures 70K Ohm. It must plug into a flying suit or jacket,
Brad
Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset
From WA5CAB at cs.com Wed Aug 13 00:35:21 2008
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB@cs.com)
Date: Wed Aug 13 00:42:00 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] T-30-S
Message-ID:
Brian,
The T-30 is a 2-button carbon microphone. If yours measures 70K it's bad.
As an aside, even when good, the T-30 isn't something you would ever want to
use. As some tanker collector buddies who didn't believe me found out when
they tried some. The T-45 lip mic, which replaced the T-30 mid-war, works
infinitely better.
But in any case, to use a T-30 or T-45, you need either Cord (includes a PTT
switch) CD-318 or Chest Set TD-4.
In a message dated 8/12/2008 10:12:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
bl_6000@yahoo.com.au writes:
> I have just acquired a T-30-S throat microphone, it is complete with strap,
> made by Univ.Micro.Co. Are these microphones carbon or coil? Across the two
> small plug pins it measures 70K Ohm. It must plug into a flying suit or
> jacket,
>
Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480
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From Telegrapher at att.net Wed Aug 13 13:59:01 2008
From: Telegrapher at att.net (Telegrapher@att.net)
Date: Wed Aug 13 14:05:29 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] [army-air-corps] AAC: Name Lists Of Unit And Vessel
Members (Full and Partial Rosters)
Message-ID: <081320081759.7364.48A320E50008F27B00001CC422230650029B0A02D29B9B0EBF9D0A089F0E9D090A040AAB@att.net>
As this says "vessel Members" i take that to mean it includes Naval resources as well. Might be of interest to some of you guys who want to do some lookups. yeah i know it's a bit off topic but it's a source of information for the folks wanting to do some lookup work that maybe they don't know about.
Patience please.
larry
W0OGH
Subject: [army-air-corps] AAC: Name Lists Of Unit And Vessel Members (Full and Partial Rosters)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:28:26 +0000
Name Lists Of Unit And Vessel Members (Full and Partial Rosters)
All Service Branch unit and vessel member lists provided to The American
War Library since 1988 are available for public viewing. You are encouraged
to verify your or a family member's name is listed in a unit or ship
roster, or establish a roster list. New roster lists are routinely added to
the database.
Database access: http://www.amervets.com/library.htm
Or: http://members.aol.com/forvets/library.htm
Contact Person for this posting: Roger Simpson, PIO
Public Information Office: http://www.13105320634.com
The American War Library: http://www.amervets.com/
16907 Brighton Avenue
Gardena CA 90247-5420
Phone / Fax: 1-310-532-0634
------------------------------------
-- Army Air Force Resource Guide
http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib5a.htm
-- World's Largest Online Personnel Registry
http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib46.htm
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From revcom at wbsnet.org Wed Aug 13 14:58:26 2008
From: revcom at wbsnet.org (Revcom)
Date: Wed Aug 13 15:05:59 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Collins 30S-1
Message-ID: <000901c8fd76$91cc1b20$0801a8c0@alltel>
I know this has probably been asked before, but I still am looking for a
piece for my "fix up" project, Collins 30S-1. Does anyone have or know of a
source for the -script- (Thirty S One) for the bottom of the amp? I checked
the Collins Association site but none listed there.
Mine is broken thanks to 'dump truck' handling by military. I'd settle for
a plastic reproduction if available.
Rod
K0EQH
From gzook at yahoo.com Wed Aug 13 17:35:10 2008
From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook)
Date: Wed Aug 13 17:41:39 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: [Boatanchors] Collins 30S-1
In-Reply-To: <000901c8fd76$91cc1b20$0801a8c0@alltel>
Message-ID: <862226.78492.qm@web52903.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Do you have all the pieces? If so, I might be able to use them to make a mold to make replacements out of casting resin.
Glen, K9STH
Website: http://k9sth.com
--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Revcom wrote:
From: Revcom
Does anyone have or know of a source for the -script- (Thirty S One) for the bottom of the amp? I checked the Collins Association site but none listed there.
Mine is broken thanks to 'dump truck' handling by military. I'd settle for a plastic reproduction if available.
From jcoward5452 at aol.com Wed Aug 13 21:31:22 2008
From: jcoward5452 at aol.com (jcoward5452@aol.com)
Date: Wed Aug 13 21:38:13 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] WOW!
Message-ID: <8CACBC4983A76BE-FDC-591B@WEBMAIL-NG14.sysops.aol.com>
250279498620
You no where.Makes me wonder why I collect.Seems I could put BOTH kids
through college if I start selling. Thing is,by the time I think it's
time to sell,the next generation will care very little for what we hold
dear.And it will all end up as soda and beer cans. :-(
Jay KE6PPF
From bstrang at iac.net Wed Aug 13 22:11:25 2008
From: bstrang at iac.net (Bill Strangfeld)
Date: Wed Aug 13 22:17:58 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] WOW!
References: <8CACBC4983A76BE-FDC-591B@WEBMAIL-NG14.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <000401c8fdb3$10ed0040$b73006c7@ng.ppp.iac.net>
Other recent eye openers:
350085138065 TBX set $2.5k
190242152578 BC-654 mount $1.4k
> 250279498620
>
> You no where.Makes me wonder why I collect.Seems I could put BOTH
kids
> through college if I start selling.
From mcenfalz at humboldt1.com Thu Aug 14 00:13:35 2008
From: mcenfalz at humboldt1.com (Laura and Jim)
Date: Thu Aug 14 00:20:11 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Buddy, can you spare a dynamotor?
Message-ID:
My earlier post vanished: here it is again.
I have been gifted an R-105/ARR-15 that appears to be virgin, except the dynamotor is missing. Anyone have a spare we can do a deal for?
I powered it up gently (via Variac) for several minutes using the internal dyno socket and it appears to be OK. The channel selector motor appears to be hale and healthy. Runs quietly. It's a riot watching the channel selector work its mojo. My first experience w/a PTO. Very cool. Being from farm stock, a PTO is usually a Power Take-Off on the back of the Massey-Ferguson.
I understand that real radios have motors; this one has two!
Jim Falls
KG6FWT
Eureka, CA
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From kk5f at earthlink.net Thu Aug 14 01:05:12 2008
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Thu Aug 14 01:11:43 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
Message-ID: <6007947.1218690312624.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Real nonsense...these postings, I mean, not the auction item, which I did not waste my time looking up.
Something I don't understand is why so many of these messages are posted referring to an auction item without ANY indication of what the item is or why it is noteworthy. Obviously it is some juvenile desire to hold us all in suspense until we go through the generally wasted effort of looking up the item to see why the original list posting was a shock to the original poster.
Simple, decent, common courtesy would dictate that in such messages you:
1. Accurately describe the item, or at the least state the equipment nomenclature.
2. State what it is about the item that has sparked the posting.
3. Include the complete URL so that several step aren't required to reveal the treasure/travesty that is being cited.
If you can't be bothered to do these simple tasks, you are insulting ALL the members of the list.
I'm sure that this message won't change anyone, but at least you'll know what I think.
Mike / KK5F
From kk5f at earthlink.net Thu Aug 14 01:33:04 2008
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Thu Aug 14 01:39:36 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Buddy, can you spare a dynamotor?
Message-ID: <738205.1218691985061.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Jim wrote:
>I have been gifted an R-105/ARR-15 that appears to be virgin, except
>the dynamotor is missing. Anyone have a spare we can do a deal for?
DY-34/ARR-15 dynamotors are not easily found. The only reason it would be
missing from an R-105/ARR-15 is because some ham trashed it. Hams also
seemed to like to trash the X-member that was placed across the upper side
of the rear three-quarters of the chassis.
>I powered it up gently (via Variac) for several minutes using the internal
>dyno socket and it appears to be OK. The channel selector motor appears to
>be hale and healthy. Runs quietly. It's a riot watching the channel selector
>work its mojo. My first experience w/a PTO. Very cool.
I used a R-105/ARR-15 that I got from NM MARS in 1968 for many years as my
main receiver. I still have it, plus an R-105A/ARR-15 with mount and control
box. It can easily be set for 1 kHz accuracy, and it does a pretty good job
on SSB. On the down side, the mode (A1 or A3) can only be changed from the
local front panel...not from the control box. It's part of the USN AN/ARC-25
(AN/ART-13 and AN/ARR-15) set. The mount and control box are *extremely*
difficult to obtain.
It lacks the LF/MF coverage and the muting capability that was built in to the
USAAF BC-348 (AN/ARR-11), so I still prefer that over the R-105.
Mike / KK5F
From jfor at quik.com Thu Aug 14 09:33:35 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Thu Aug 14 09:38:20 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
References: <6007947.1218690312624.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <48A4342F.442DBDF3@quik.com>
Agreed, except I'd suggest cutting and pasting the title & item number, rather than the URL, as they often get screwed up in emails.
Best,
-John
==================
Mike Morrow wrote:
> Real nonsense...these postings, I mean, not the auction item, which I did not waste my time looking up.
>
> Something I don't understand is why so many of these messages are posted referring to an auction item without ANY indication of what the item is or why it is noteworthy. Obviously it is some juvenile desire to hold us all in suspense until we go through the generally wasted effort of looking up the item to see why the original list posting was a shock to the original poster.
>
> Simple, decent, common courtesy would dictate that in such messages you:
>
> 1. Accurately describe the item, or at the least state the equipment nomenclature.
> 2. State what it is about the item that has sparked the posting.
> 3. Include the complete URL so that several step aren't required to reveal the treasure/travesty that is being cited.
>
> If you can't be bothered to do these simple tasks, you are insulting ALL the members of the list.
>
> I'm sure that this message won't change anyone, but at least you'll know what I think.
>
> Mike / KK5F
From ka1kaq at gmail.com Thu Aug 14 10:00:54 2008
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Thu Aug 14 10:07:27 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: [ARC5] Cryptic ebay auction postings
In-Reply-To: <6007947.1218690312624.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <6007947.1218690312624.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <9ccb8c510808140700r5c570832le4cf50e97d3d5734@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Mike Morrow wrote:
Surely you meant *your idea of*...
> Simple, decent, common courtesy would dictate that in such messages you:
> If you can't be bothered to do these simple tasks, you are insulting ALL the members of the list.
Nah, I don't feel insulted in the least, but then I don't get my
undies in a bunch over internet postings in general. This no doubt
means that I am less educated, unworthy, and somehow unable to grasp
the situation properly. And I thank God for it, regularly. That and
being one of those mindless 'hams'.
> I'm sure that this message won't change anyone, but at least you'll know what I think.
Without a doubt, our lives are far better for this enlightenment.
Thank you, kind sir. Where would our list admins be without you? If I
could be so bold as to request, could the subject of our next lesson
be 'Wasted Bandwidth', perhaps followed by the age-old favorite 'Use
the Delete Key' discussion? It's been a while, and I'll bet the
audience is anxious.
~ Todd, KA1KAQ (I ain't too bright, but I kin lift heavy thangs) (o:
From W7QHO at aol.com Thu Aug 14 10:57:38 2008
From: W7QHO at aol.com (W7QHO@aol.com)
Date: Thu Aug 14 11:04:21 2008
Subject: [ARC5] Re: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
Message-ID:
I've got no problem with them as posted. No big deal either way.
Dennis D. W7QHO
Glendale, CA
**************
Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget?
Read reviews on AOL Autos.
(http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )
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From w9ran at oneradio.net Thu Aug 14 11:12:42 2008
From: w9ran at oneradio.net (Robert Nickels)
Date: Thu Aug 14 11:19:16 2008
Subject: [ARC5] Re: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <48A44B6A.6070808@oneradio.net>
W7QHO@aol.com wrote:
> I've got no problem with them as posted. No big deal either way.
>
>
Me neither. But if it makes life easier for anyone, use the Firefox
browser, add "eBay" to your Search Engine dropdown in the upper right
corner, then just paste an any eBay listing number and one click does
the job.
73, Bob W9RAN
From jcoward5452 at aol.com Thu Aug 14 11:49:01 2008
From: jcoward5452 at aol.com (jcoward5452@aol.com)
Date: Thu Aug 14 11:56:20 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
In-Reply-To: <6007947.1218690312624.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <6007947.1218690312624.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8CACC3C67B28DFC-F2C-BEA@webmail-nh11.sysops.aol.com>
From what I gather,most list moderators do not allow references to
specific auctions which include a reference to the auction site.It
would be giving free adverising to the auction site.
Jay KE6PPF
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Morrow
To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net; arc5@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:05 pm
Subject: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
Real nonsense...these postings, I mean, not the auction item, which I
did not
waste my time looking up.
Something I don't understand is why so many of these messages are
posted
referring to an auction item without ANY indication of what the item is
or why
it is noteworthy. Obviously it is some juvenile desire to hold us all
in
suspense until we go through the generally wasted effort of looking up
the item
to see why the original list posting was a shock to the original poster.
Simple, decent, common courtesy would dictate that in such messages you:
1. Accurately describe the item, or at the least state the equipment
nomenclature.
2. State what it is about the item that has sparked the posting.
3. Include the complete URL so that several step aren't required to
reveal the
treasure/travesty that is being cited.
If you can't be bothered to do these simple tasks, you are insulting
ALL the
members of the list.
I'm sure that this message won't change anyone, but at least you'll
know what I
think.
Mike / KK5F
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From k2gkk at hotmail.com Thu Aug 14 12:14:40 2008
From: k2gkk at hotmail.com (D C *Mac* Macdonald)
Date: Thu Aug 14 12:21:14 2008
Subject: [ARC5] Re: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
In-Reply-To: <8CACC3C67B28DFC-F2C-BEA@webmail-nh11.sysops.aol.com>
References: <6007947.1218690312624.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
<8CACC3C67B28DFC-F2C-BEA@webmail-nh11.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID:
It tends to make one wonder what is the purpose of a list.
I would hope that the purpose would be to provide a benefit
to the members of that list.
If list rules, etiquette, and general attitude become sufficiently
burdensome or unpalatable to override perceived benefit,
the list will die.
The "jumping" of newcomers who may not be aware of the
unwritten rules of a list will soon discourage participation.
My opinion/advice is worth just what you have paid for it.
73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
Oklahoma City, OK
> To: kk5f@arrl.net; milsurplus@mailman.qth.net; arc5@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:49:01 -0400
> From: jcoward5452@aol.com
> CC:
> Subject: [ARC5] Re: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
>
> From what I gather,most list moderators do not allow references to
> specific auctions which include a reference to the auction site.It
> would be giving free adverising to the auction site.
> Jay KE6PPF
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Morrow
> To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net; arc5@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:05 pm
> Subject: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
>
>
>
> Real nonsense...these postings, I mean, not the auction item, which I
> did not waste my time looking up.
>
> Something I don't understand is why so many of these messages are
> posted referring to an auction item without ANY indication of what the
> item is or why it is noteworthy. Obviously it is some juvenile desire
> to hold us all in suspense until we go through the generally wasted
> effort of looking up the item to see why the original list posting was a
> shock to the original poster.
>
> Simple, decent, common courtesy would dictate that in such messages you:
>
> 1. Accurately describe the item, or at the least state the equipment
> nomenclature.
> 2. State what it is about the item that has sparked the posting.
> 3. Include the complete URL so that several step aren't required to
> reveal the treasure/travesty that is being cited.
>
> If you can't be bothered to do these simple tasks, you are insulting
> ALL the members of the list.
>
> I'm sure that this message won't change anyone, but at least you'll
> know what I think.
>
> Mike / KK5F
From jmfranke at cox.net Thu Aug 14 12:27:48 2008
From: jmfranke at cox.net (John Franke)
Date: Thu Aug 14 12:34:22 2008
Subject: [ARC5] Re: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
References: <6007947.1218690312624.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net><8CACC3C67B28DFC-F2C-BEA@webmail-nh11.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <00b101c8fe2a$b0cdfbb0$1e89a662@youre7075dc078>
I do not believe there is a problem with a list member providing a link to
an ebay item. From what I hear, the problem is in saying "look hear"
without adding any other information such as "a butchered ARC-5" or an
"excellent homebrew rig," etc. Apparently seeing too many "look hears" can
be annoying.
John WA4WDL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Macklin"
To: "D C *Mac* Macdonald" ; ;
; ;
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [ARC5] Re: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
> What's the problem with providing list members a link to an eBay item that
> may be of interest to list members?
>
> Bob Macklin
> K5MYJ
> Seattle, Wa,
> "Real Radios Glow in the Dark"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D C *Mac* Macdonald"
> To: ; ; ;
>
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:14 AM
> Subject: RE: [ARC5] Re: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
>
>
>
> It tends to make one wonder what is the purpose of a list.
> I would hope that the purpose would be to provide a benefit
> to the members of that list.
>
> If list rules, etiquette, and general attitude become sufficiently
> burdensome or unpalatable to override perceived benefit,
> the list will die.
>
> The "jumping" of newcomers who may not be aware of the
> unwritten rules of a list will soon discourage participation.
>
> My opinion/advice is worth just what you have paid for it.
>
> 73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
> Oklahoma City, OK
>
>
>
>> To: kk5f@arrl.net; milsurplus@mailman.qth.net; arc5@mailman.qth.net
>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:49:01 -0400
>> From: jcoward5452@aol.com
>> CC:
>> Subject: [ARC5] Re: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
>>
>> From what I gather,most list moderators do not allow references to
>> specific auctions which include a reference to the auction site.It
>> would be giving free adverising to the auction site.
>> Jay KE6PPF
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Morrow
>> To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net; arc5@mailman.qth.net
>> Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:05 pm
>> Subject: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
>>
>>
>>
>> Real nonsense...these postings, I mean, not the auction item, which I
>> did not waste my time looking up.
>>
>> Something I don't understand is why so many of these messages are
>> posted referring to an auction item without ANY indication of what the
>> item is or why it is noteworthy. Obviously it is some juvenile desire
>> to hold us all in suspense until we go through the generally wasted
>> effort of looking up the item to see why the original list posting was a
>> shock to the original poster.
>>
>> Simple, decent, common courtesy would dictate that in such messages you:
>>
>> 1. Accurately describe the item, or at the least state the equipment
>> nomenclature.
>> 2. State what it is about the item that has sparked the posting.
>> 3. Include the complete URL so that several step aren't required to
>> reveal the treasure/travesty that is being cited.
>>
>> If you can't be bothered to do these simple tasks, you are insulting
>> ALL the members of the list.
>>
>> I'm sure that this message won't change anyone, but at least you'll
>> know what I think.
>>
>> Mike / KK5F
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From ejones at hiwaay.net Thu Aug 14 12:02:15 2008
From: ejones at hiwaay.net (Eric A. Jones)
Date: Thu Aug 14 12:51:02 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
In-Reply-To: <6007947.1218690312624.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <6007947.1218690312624.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5D02FD52-6A1A-11DD-BD9A-0050E420676D@hiwaay.net>
de N4TGC Eric
Hear, hear, Mike - I agree completely. I used to get angry, then
realized being angry at idiots lowered me to their level, so now I
don't give a dam - and I don't look the item up, either - ever.
e
From wh7hg.hi at gmail.com Thu Aug 14 12:46:09 2008
From: wh7hg.hi at gmail.com (Michael Tauson)
Date: Thu Aug 14 12:52:45 2008
Subject: [ARC5] Re: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
In-Reply-To:
References: <6007947.1218690312624.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
<8CACC3C67B28DFC-F2C-BEA@webmail-nh11.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID:
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 6:14 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
> The "jumping" of newcomers who may not be aware of the
> unwritten rules of a list will soon discourage participation.
While I'm in utter and total agreement with this, who's the newbie?
We have the original poster of the item by number who's a veteran of
the lists; the person who made the original complaint, also a list
vet; the initial responder, also a vet ... and so on.
Of course, I also think the original complaint was a bit much and
apparently was not that of the vocal majority thus disproving at least
one part of it. Oh, well. That's just me.
Best regards,
Michael, KH7HG
From jfor at quik.com Thu Aug 14 12:55:01 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Thu Aug 14 12:59:45 2008
Subject: [ARC5] Re: [Milsurplus] Cryptic ebay auction postings
References: <6007947.1218690312624.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net><8CACC3C67B28DFC-F2C-BEA@webmail-nh11.sysops.aol.com>
<00b101c8fe2a$b0cdfbb0$1e89a662@youre7075dc078>
Message-ID: <48A46365.5F55831@quik.com>
FWIW, I think a pointer to an auction listing should include:
The item number (you can really omit the eBay as it's essentially the only game
in town)
The item title (so readers don't have to go and look to find out it's of any
interest at all)
Whether the person posting the item has a financial interest in the item (and
the post is self serving)
These are the guidelines I use to moderate my lists and IMO they are fair,
necessary, and sufficient.
Best,
-John
======================
John Franke wrote:
> I do not believe there is a problem with a list member providing a link to
> an ebay item. From what I hear, the problem is in saying "look hear"
> without adding any other information such as "a butchered ARC-5" or an
> "excellent homebrew rig," etc. Apparently seeing too many "look hears" can
> be annoying.
>
> John WA4WDL
From skynite000 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 14 13:27:34 2008
From: skynite000 at yahoo.com (Skywarrior)
Date: Thu Aug 14 13:34:09 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] ARC-55 CONROL BOX
Message-ID: <826759.14059.qm@web35702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi All,
I have an excellent condition C-1827/ARC-55 control for sale. It really looks like it was never used. It has some minor abrasions from storage but that is it. I am asking $25.00 plus priority mail costs of $10.20 with in the USA.
TIA
Bruce
From rafantini at salisbury.edu Thu Aug 14 13:53:11 2008
From: rafantini at salisbury.edu (Ray Fantini)
Date: Thu Aug 14 13:59:43 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] One line
Message-ID: <48A438C7020000310000D33E@mail2.salisbury.edu>
I like the one line EBay listings, simple with no HTML garbage and
straight to the point. There are no problems with using the word EBay or
pointing to an auction as long as it?s not your own or you are
promoting it for another and I don?t feel insulted or offended by
these actions in any way. How much protocol and procedures do we need
for an email reflector anyway?
Ray Fantini KA3EKH
From revcom at wbsnet.org Thu Aug 14 14:15:35 2008
From: revcom at wbsnet.org (Revcom)
Date: Thu Aug 14 14:23:15 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] One line
References: <48A438C7020000310000D33E@mail2.salisbury.edu>
Message-ID: <001401c8fe39$bfac7300$0801a8c0@alltel>
I think it is kinda cool that we get the listing number. It is no problem
to write it down and then go to the site and type in the search line.
I just thank those that have the time to browse the site and point things
out. I like to look at pictures of stuff I will NEVER be able to own and
really brings back memories of stuff I tore up 40-50 years ago. Dumb.
Just keep it simple, no pretty references/HTML crap etc. We all have the
ability to check it out if we want to. About anyone knows what a long number
is for.
Rod
K0EQH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Fantini"
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:53 PM
Subject: [Milsurplus] One line
> I like the one line EBay listings, simple with no HTML garbage and
> straight to the point. There are no problems with using the word EBay or
> pointing to an auction as long as it?s not your own or you are
> promoting it for another and I don?t feel insulted or offended by
> these actions in any way. How much protocol and procedures do we need
> for an email reflector anyway?
> Ray Fantini KA3EKH
>
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From n7rk at cox.net Wed Aug 6 12:42:35 2008
From: n7rk at cox.net (David Hollander)
Date: Thu Aug 14 18:29:32 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] FS: Heathkit, Hallicrafters, Swan, Collins Radio, HP,
Military Telegraph Keys and Other Stuff
Message-ID: <4899D47B.5060101@cox.net>
Here are a few items for sale. Prices do not include. I will ship
overseas.
Heathkit SB-200 80-10 Meter Linear Amplifier & Manual...$425 plus shipping
This is a 1 KW 8-10 meter linear amplifier that runs off of 110 VAC or
220 VAC. This amp is unmodified with the exception of a BNC jack
replacing the RCA connector (good mod!)and is in very nice shape with no
extra holes and all of the correct knobs. It has a few paint chips and a
previous owner put some kind of ID number on the back of the unit.
Nothing has been arced or burned and the ham who built this did a really
excellent job on the soldering/wiring. Puts out around 500 - 600 watts
with 100 watts drive on 110 volts. I have used this with my Yaesu
FT-1000MP transceiver. Includes a photocopy of the manual.
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/sb2000.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/sb20004.JPG
Swan 500C SS-16B Special Transceiver and 117XC Power Supply....$300 plus
shipping
This unit works quite well. I measured around 200 watts CW output on my
Bird meter with a dummy load. The receiver sounds good. Cosmetically the
unit looks good however it does have some scuffs and scratches to the
outer case. I have been using this radio for the past 18 months and have
made hundreds of contacts with it on 75, 40 and 20 meter phone. Most
recent was on field day last month where it made over 100 QSO's
operating field day from my shack.
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/swan500ss16b.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/swan500ss16b3.JPG
Heathkit SA-2060 Legal Limit Antenna Tuner with Manual...$350 plus shipping
This is a legal limit tuner that cover all frequencies between 160 and
10 meters. It will match balanced and unbalanced lines , single wire and
ladder lines. It has a dual watt meter that has a 200 watt and a 2000
watt scale so you can read forward and reflected average power. This
tuner is in excellent condition with a few light scratches to the outer
case. The inside is clean with no evidence of abuse or arcing. This is a
great tuner rated at 5/5 with 31 reviews in the equipment reviews
section on the e-ham web site.
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/heathsa2060.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/heathsa20602.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/heathsa20604.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/heathsa20605.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/heathsa20606.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/heathsa20607.JPG
Collins Radio SM-2 Dynamic Microphone....$275 plus shipping
This is a clean working unit with a few very minor scratches. It is
wired for a Collins KWM-2 or a 32S transmitter. I used this with my
KWM-2A and also with a Swan 500C with an adaptor for the plug. Worked
well and received great audio reports.
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/sm2collins.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/sm2collins2.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/sm2collins4.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/sm2collins3.JPG
Westclox WT8AMP Canadian Military Telegraph Key..........$50 plus
shipping (I have several of these)
The key appears to be new old stock and in excellent condition. I
believe these were used by the Canadian Military in W.W.II.
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/mil_key.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/mil_key2.JPG
USN AN/URM-25F RF Signal Generator - Original Manual......$25 shipped
Original manual in excellent condition.
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/urm25fmanual.JPG
Hallicrafters SX-43 Receiver with Manual....$130 plus shipping
The receiver works but would benefit from a restoration. I listened to
signals on the AM broadcast band, WWV at 5, 10 and 15 MHz as well as
signals on several short wave bands. I did not hear signals on the
higher bands or on the FM band so I would assume it needs help. The
s-meter works, the BFO and crystal filter work. Cosmetically, it has
lots of scuffs and scratches as can be seen in the photos. It has all of
the correct knobs. It does not have any dings, dents or extra holes.
This is a a heavy receiver. Includes a photocopy of the manual.
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/sx43.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/sx432.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/sx433.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/sx435.JPG
Hewlett Packard HP 711A High Voltage Bench Supply...$125 plus shipping
This is a regulated high voltage power supply with an output of 0-500
volts dc with a maximum current of 100 mA. Unregulated ac output is 6.3
volts at 6 amps maximum and 12.6 volts center tap at 3 amps maximum. The
supply has two meters. The current meter measures 0-100 mA and the volt
meter measures 0-500 volts or 0-50 volts with the push button. This
includes a photocopy of the HP 711A manual.
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/hp711a.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/hp711a3.JPG
Advance Electric Dow-Key Clone Coaxial Relay....$25 plus shipping
Antenna changeover relay made by Advance Electric which looks identical
if not more ruggedly built than a Dow-Key relay. Possibly this company
built the relays for Dow-Key. This is a 24 VDC unit with SO-239
connectors. Tested and is in very good condition.
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/advance_relay.JPG
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/advance_relay2.JPG
TenTec Electro-Voice 729 Microphone.....$25 plus shipping
EV Electrovoice 729 High Impedance Microphone with stand. This mike has
a TenTec logo so it probably sold by TenTec for use with their ham radio
equipment. Cosmetically the mike looks good but is missing some paint in
places. I hooked the mike up to my Bogen amp and it is working. Sounded
very good with nice strong audio when listening to it. It is currently
wired with a 2 pin microphone connector most likely wired for use with a
Johnson Ranger or a Johnson Valiant transmitter.
http://members.cox.net/radiostuff9/tentec_mike.JPG
Acoustic Research Turntable - 1960's and AR Brochure...$100 plus shipping
This is a one speed (33 1/3) turntable mounted on an oiled walnut base.
This one has a Shure cartridge installed. The specs are shown in the
photo below. I hooked this up to my Fisher 800B and Cerwin Vega HED
speakers and listened to a few records. The turntable is in good
operating condition. The dust cover is included but it is cracked. I
will also include an original 1960's AR catalog which does have this
turntable in it.
http://members.cox.net/radiodx5/ar_turntable.JPG
73 and thanks for looking.
--
***********************************************************
Dave N7RK Boatanchors Home Page: http://members.cox.net/n7rk
Phoenix, Arizona *DXCC Honor Roll* *WAZ#22 - 75 Meter SSB*
ex-XE2/N7RK, N7RK/ZB2, VK2ERK, ZM0AJN, WB6NRK, WN6IWX
Boatanchor and Antique Radio Collector
From ai4wm at yahoo.com Thu Aug 14 19:41:19 2008
From: ai4wm at yahoo.com (Bill MacLane)
Date: Thu Aug 14 19:47:55 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] ERC-310 help
Message-ID: <580604.87349.qm@web57913.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Anybody know anything about and ERC-310 radio set?
I have one, antenna, mic, and pack, but no information beyond that.
73,
Bill
AI4WM
From wa6knw at sbcglobal.net Thu Aug 14 20:28:56 2008
From: wa6knw at sbcglobal.net (Rich MC Clung)
Date: Thu Aug 14 20:35:33 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re:Cryptic ebay auction postings
In-Reply-To: <20080814165253.23260859C5C@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <876115.35512.qm@web80007.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Come on guys, next thing you know we'll be talking about that black umpty-puckity stuff that oozes from overheating transformers........................
Who really gives a flying leap at a rolling donut, about whether someone did or didn't full fill someone Else's expectations in describing or not describing an item from a certain auction list, that we all know about, and most probably secretly survey, from time to time, in hopes of finding that one last item of unobtainium for our life long projects.
The main point is there will ALWAYS be someone who will object to something that doesn't please them in order to assert their standards and values upon others. And again I refer you to the errant pastry comment above.
I looked at the item that started all this and, I thought that it was quite nice. In fact it was looking pretty good for being 64 years old. I hope I look that good when I hit 64. But would I pay that price? Not unless I had a B-17 in flying condition and the rest on my ARC-5 gear was in that good of condition. I would have to have my modulator to be just as pristine.
So thank you for posting that item so I could have a look at a nicely preserved piece of history that I couldn't pay that much for at this time.
Yours Aye,
RICH WA6KNW
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From jfor at quik.com Thu Aug 14 23:03:47 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Thu Aug 14 23:08:30 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Schematics needed
Message-ID: <48A4F213.55D48528@quik.com>
Hi,
Can anyone point me to an on line source for schematics and preferably
also block diagrams for the following:
Collins 75A-3
Collins 75A-4
SP-600
I don't need the full manuals, alignment instructions, etc. I just want
to do some simple trouble shooting prints.
Thanks,
-John
====================
From gzook at yahoo.com Thu Aug 14 23:29:35 2008
From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook)
Date: Thu Aug 14 23:36:14 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Schematics needed
In-Reply-To: <48A4F213.55D48528@quik.com>
Message-ID: <421845.61591.qm@web52910.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
The manual for the 75A4 is available in PDF format from the Collins Collectors' Association at
http://www.collinsradio.org/Archives/Collins_Radio_Equipment_Manuals.aspx
The Hammarlund SP-600 manual is available from BAMA at
http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/hammarlu/sp600/
The manual for the 75A-2 or 75A-3 (the receivers are the same except that the 75A-3 has provisions for mechanical filters) have not been "put up" on the CCA website. However, the various Service Bulletins for the 75A-2 and 75A-3 are on the CCA website at the URL furnished above.
For manuals on Collins equipment always check the CCA website and for all other brands of "boat anchors" always check on BAMA at
http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/
Glen, K9STH
Website: http://k9sth.com
--- On Thu, 8/14/08, J Forster wrote:
From: J Forster
Can anyone point me to an on line source for schematics and preferably also block diagrams for the following:
Collins 75A-3
Collins 75A-4
SP-600
From john.brewer at us.schneider-electric.com Fri Aug 15 11:22:54 2008
From: john.brewer at us.schneider-electric.com (john.brewer@us.schneider-electric.com)
Date: Fri Aug 15 11:30:35 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Ebay listings and reflectors
Message-ID:
I believe there's only one list moderator on the QTH reflectors against individuals referencing
interesting Ebay offerings. Most of us are grown up enough to realize that pimping our own
auctions is in bad taste, and avoid doing so. Given that without Ebay most of us could not find
much of the obscure stuff we seek out and collect, prohibitions against sensible references to
appropriate auctions is just a personal rant rather than a useful protection for the
listmembers.
Respectfully
John K5MO
From kb1fqg at yahoo.com Fri Aug 15 12:13:08 2008
From: kb1fqg at yahoo.com (John Flood)
Date: Fri Aug 15 12:19:49 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Eddystone 830
Message-ID: <683835.38701.qm@web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Greetings,
Looking for the band switch knob for the Eddystone 830.? Looks like I'm keeping the one I'm trying out in a possible hosstrade.? He knows my weaknes...? Take it home John and play with it he says, you not really using the widget I want anyway are you??? I see a big user group in the UK.? Any of you guys here using Eddystone stuff in the USA?as well?
John Flood
KB1FQG
978-979-2807
From wf2u at ws19ops.com Fri Aug 15 12:25:10 2008
From: wf2u at ws19ops.com (wf2u@ws19ops.com)
Date: Fri Aug 15 12:32:11 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: [Boatanchors] Eddystone 830
In-Reply-To: <683835.38701.qm@web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <683835.38701.qm@web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080815112510.hq9r2t4vggc8g0ok@webmail.opentransfer.com>
John,
Congratulations! What version of the Eddy 830 did you get?
I have an 830/4, which was contracted for the Canadian Government
(mine is ex Ministry of Transportation).
Besides its being a very nice looking receiver, it's also a great
performing, stable and sensitive receiver, with good selectivity and
nice audio.
I like the big slide-rule dial.
Unfortunately I have no spare knobs for it, but as far as i know,
there is a fairly good size Eddystone users mailing list in the UK.
Conceivable that someone may have a knob for you.
Enjoy the receiver!
73, Meir WF2U
Landrum, SC
Quoting John Flood :
> Greetings,
> Looking for the band switch knob for the Eddystone 830.? Looks like
> I'm keeping the one I'm trying out in a possible hosstrade.? He
> knows my weaknes...? Take it home John and play with it he says, you
> not really using the widget I want anyway are you??? I see a big
> user group in the UK.? Any of you guys here using Eddystone stuff in
> the USA?as well?
> John Flood
> KB1FQG
> 978-979-2807
> _______________________________________________
>
From k2gkk at hotmail.com Fri Aug 15 12:32:36 2008
From: k2gkk at hotmail.com (D C *Mac* Macdonald)
Date: Fri Aug 15 12:39:17 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Ebay listings and reflectors
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Would you, perchance, be willing to share which particular
list(s) are operated/moderated under the prohibition?
73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
Oklahoma City, OK
> To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
> From: john.brewer@us.schneider-electric.com
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:22:54 -0400
> Subject: [Milsurplus] Ebay listings and reflectors
>
> I believe there's only one list moderator on the QTH reflectors against individuals referencing
> interesting Ebay offerings. Most of us are grown up enough to realize that pimping our own
> auctions is in bad taste, and avoid doing so. Given that without Ebay most of us could not find
> much of the obscure stuff we seek out and collect, prohibitions against sensible references to
> appropriate auctions is just a personal rant rather than a useful protection for the
> listmembers.
>
> Respectfully
>
> John K5MO
From telegrapher at att.net Fri Aug 15 12:39:14 2008
From: telegrapher at att.net (telegrapher@att.net)
Date: Fri Aug 15 12:45:55 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re:Cryptic ebay auction postings
In-Reply-To: <876115.35512.qm@web80007.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <20080814165253.23260859C5C@mailman.qth.net>
<876115.35512.qm@web80007.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <081520081639.25765.48A5B132000DBE5B000064A522230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF9D0A089F0E9D090A040A9B@att.net>
We've all be chastised in the past for mentioneing "E### in our postings to the various lists, greenkeys as an exmption. What this is beginning to sound like is "politcal correctness". BS, Post it the way you feel like it and if i don't want to look something up because i think it's "to much work" or not of interest, i'll delete the email.
Lets get a bit loose here and not so political correct. That's part of what got this country in such as mess as it is now.
Do it the way you want, people seem to adapt either way.
Larry
W0OGH
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From al at ar88.net Fri Aug 15 13:11:22 2008
From: al at ar88.net (Al Klase)
Date: Fri Aug 15 13:18:47 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: [Boatanchors] Eddystone 830
In-Reply-To: <683835.38701.qm@web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <683835.38701.qm@web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48A5B8BA.7070105@ar88.net>
John,
You might want to check in with eddystonr_radio_users on Yahoo groups.
They were most helpful when I needed an IF transformer for an EC10.
Lots of Brits there.
Al
John Flood wrote:
> Greetings,
> Looking for the band switch knob for the Eddystone 830. Looks like I'm keeping the one I'm trying out in a possible hosstrade. He knows my weaknes... Take it home John and play with it he says, you not really using the widget I want anyway are you? I see a big user group in the UK. Any of you guys here using Eddystone stuff in the USA as well?
> John Flood
> KB1FQG
> 978-979-2807
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
--
Al Klase - N3FRQ
Flemington, NJ
http://www.skywaves.ar88.net/
From smithab11 at comcast.net Fri Aug 15 14:38:14 2008
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Fri Aug 15 14:44:53 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] PRC-71 parts needed
Message-ID: <00e901c8ff06$14cc9e60$271cc847@HAL1000>
I need a parts radio or a 2nd mixer & filter board, 4A3A1. (mine has an
open winding in one of the sealed transformers.
73 breck k4che
From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com Fri Aug 15 18:56:16 2008
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Fri Aug 15 19:02:53 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-348R question local Oscillator band frequency ranges
Message-ID: <48A60990.9060504@austin.rr.com>
Group - BC-348R Question
Any on know the frequency ranges for the Local Oscillator on each band?
Dial
Band Range Local Osc Range?
1 200-500 ?
2 1.5 - 3.5 ?
3 3.5 - 6.0 ?
4 6.0 - 9.5 ?
5 9.5 - 13.5 ?
6 13.5 - 18.0 ?
Thanks
Hutch
From kk5f at earthlink.net Fri Aug 15 20:37:01 2008
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Fri Aug 15 20:43:44 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-348R question local Oscillator band frequency
ranges
Message-ID: <22696518.1218847021980.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
>Any on know the frequency ranges for the Local Oscillator on each band?
> Dial
>Band Range Local Osc Range?
>1 200-500 ?
>2 1.5 - 3.5 ?
>3 3.5 - 6.0 ?
>4 6.0 - 9.5 ?
>5 9.5 - 13.5 ?
>6 13.5 - 18.0 ?
The BC-348-R IF is 915 kHz.
On bands 1, 2, 3, and 4, the local oscillator operates 915 kHz *above* the dial frequency.
On bands 5 and 6, the local oscillator operates 915 kHz *below* the dial frequency.
Mike / KK5F
From ka1kaq at gmail.com Sat Aug 16 00:17:35 2008
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Sat Aug 16 00:24:18 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re:Cryptic ebay auction postings
In-Reply-To: <081520081639.25765.48A5B132000DBE5B000064A522230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF9D0A089F0E9D090A040A9B@att.net>
References: <20080814165253.23260859C5C@mailman.qth.net>
<876115.35512.qm@web80007.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
<081520081639.25765.48A5B132000DBE5B000064A522230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF9D0A089F0E9D090A040A9B@att.net>
Message-ID: <9ccb8c510808152117j484e0191ja223ce55e7fdf440@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 12:39 PM, wrote:
> BS, Post it the way you feel like it
> and if i don't want to look something up because i think it's "to much work"
> or not of interest, i'll delete the email.
Precisely. Rather than ranting about someone who tried to do the list
a favor by posting an item number, simply look at it or ignore it. So
much easier than letting the world know that they didn't reach your
expectations.
As far as the whole ebay link issue, I've read many posts from Al
Waller stating that he has no problem with folks sharing links for
viewing, discussing, etc. He even set up a specific list for
discussing ebay to keep unrelated topics off specific lists.
The rude behavior in my opinion is posting your own auction to a list
of folks who have helped you over the years, as if to say 'you're good
enough to push my final high bid up, just not good enough to have it
offered for sale to you first'. Quite often these folks have too high
of a reserve on their item, and when it doesn't sell - surprise! The
list is suddenly worthy. A for sale ad pops up.
There was also the issue of ebay making millions (billions?) while Al
and others got no compensation to differ their operating expenses. But
beyond that, discussing specific items related to the list has always
been acceptable as far back as I can remember. Except as John pointed
out, on one or two lists run by the same admin.
I find it far more tiresome to read posts instructing me as to what I
think, should think, and so on. Thanks anyway, but I'm a big boy now.
( :
~ Todd, KA1KAQ
From kargo_cult at msn.com Sat Aug 16 00:33:12 2008
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Sat Aug 16 00:42:58 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re:Cryptic ebay auction postings
References: <20080814165253.23260859C5C@mailman.qth.net><876115.35512.qm@web80007.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><081520081639.25765.48A5B132000DBE5B000064A522230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBF9D0A089F0E9D090A040A9B@att.net>
<9ccb8c510808152117j484e0191ja223ce55e7fdf440@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID:
Right, post it anyway you want, this is an American
email group.
However, re posts that are like,
"Look at this 123456789"
or in subject field, only this word: "WANTED"
because the poster cannot expend 10 more calories
of energy in consideration for the reader.
==> DELETE.
-Hue Miller K7HUE
From WA5CAB at cs.com Sat Aug 16 02:24:56 2008
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB@cs.com)
Date: Sat Aug 16 02:31:44 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Wanted: NAVSHIPS 91454(A) on AN/TRR-5
Message-ID:
Group,
Several years ago, someone had one of these receivers (and for that matter, I
have one) and was looking for a manual. Somewhere, I found a PDF and was
going to convert it to TIF, clean it up and turn it back into a printable
document. Either I got sidetracked or whoever wanted it dropped out of sight and I
didn't do it.
More recently someone else asked whether I had one and I resurrected the
project. The text pages are done and didn't turn out too bad, although the photos
were pretty sad. But whoever did the original scanning (in the ensuing
years, I've forgotten where I originally got the file) scanned the foldout
schematic and wiring diagram in snippets on 8-1/2x11 pages. I've never understood the
rationale for this but finally gave up arguing with people who do it and have
gotten pretty good at recreating the original wide foldouts. Unfortunately,
in this case, whoever did the scanning missed the overlap slightly. In a
couple of cases by as much as a guestimated 6 or 7 inches.
So if anyone holds this manual, I'd like to negotiate somehow getting a
complete copy of the two foldouts. It can be chopped if it has to be but it does
have to be complete.
Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480
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From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com Sat Aug 16 21:32:18 2008
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Sat Aug 16 21:38:27 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-348 question on stamps
Message-ID: <48A77FA2.6090805@austin.rr.com>
Anyone -
I have seen on some of these units a hand painted M1 and a stamp SC3830A
as depicted in this picture:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120292921411&indexURL=1&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting
What do they mean?
Thanks
Hutch
From arc5 at ix.netcom.com Sat Aug 16 22:18:50 2008
From: arc5 at ix.netcom.com (David Stinson)
Date: Sat Aug 16 22:25:39 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-348 question on stamps
References: <48A77FA2.6090805@austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <6195A3B7A159442883B9311A0742A1A1@boudreaux>
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hutchins"
Subject: [Milsurplus] BC-348 question on stamps
> Anyone -
>
> I have seen on some of these units a hand painted M1 and a stamp SC3830A
>....
> What do they mean?
"M1" is a mark used to denote that an official field modification
has been done to the unit. In this case, "M1," as seen on many
USAAC radios from WWII, indicates that a 1-megaohm resistor has
been connected from the antenna connection to ground in order to
drain away the static charges that build up on aircraft antennas.
Years of research and tons of money were expended on this problem,
and the solution was a lowly resistor. Please note that "M1" on
a USAAC BC-348 or BC-442 is not necessarily that same as
"M1" on a BC-611; it's a matter of the technical changes
issued for that piece of gear.
The "SC3830A" in a Signal Corps Inspector's personal stamp,
indicating that the unit has been inspected by him according to his
procedure (connections properly soldered, correct tubes installed, etc.)
and passed.
73 Dave S.
From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com Sat Aug 16 23:42:22 2008
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Sat Aug 16 23:48:22 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Speaking of Rejuvenating tubes
Message-ID: <48A79E1E.4000305@austin.rr.com>
All -
Any one have knowledge if this procedure to Rejuvenate tubes?
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2007073517&IA=WO2007073517&DISPLAY=CLAIMS
Sounds similar to Rejuvenate tubes article:
http://www.antiquewireless.org/otb/rejuve.htm
I wonder if a combination of methods would work; over heating by 135%
of rated voltage and Pulsing with a low voltage to cause the filament
to shake.
1. how much voltage potential would be acceptable between the filament
and cathode since they are not physically connected.
2 what would be the frequency required to get the cathode and filament
physically to shake a minute amount.
3. Reversing the voltage on the cathode put a positive on the cathode,
Negative on one side of the filament, and plate would this help drive
off impurities from the cathode.
Hutch
From wf2u at ws19ops.com Sun Aug 17 11:55:34 2008
From: wf2u at ws19ops.com (Meir-WF2U)
Date: Sun Aug 17 12:02:27 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] TN-339 antenna tuner for sale
In-Reply-To: <48A5B8BA.7070105@ar88.net>
References: <683835.38701.qm@web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<48A5B8BA.7070105@ar88.net>
Message-ID: <001901c90081$b0389850$0300a8c0@MBDCONSULTING.LOCAL>
Groups,
A friend of mine, Jon K1VVC, email jonweiner@aol.com who is not a member of
these mailing lists, has a nice TN-339 antenna tuner for sale. These are the
antenna tuners for the T-368 which were the remake with the new nomenclature
- of the BC-939 antenna tuners which were used with the BC-610.
Jon's TN-339 is in great shape, the case is refinished with non-military
paint but it's fairly close to the T-3 color. The electronics are in great
shape inside, the chassis is very clean. Also, the military ID plate is
missing.
Jon would like $200 for it, and prefers pickup (he is in Greer, SC, near
Greenville and Spartanburg, not far from I-85). He'd ship it if he has to...
This is all I know about the tuner. PLEASE - do not email me with inquiries,
email directly to Jon K1VVC jonweiner@aol.com .
Thanks,
73, Meir WF2U
Landrum, SC
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG.
Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: 8/16/2008
5:12 PM
From wf2u at ws19ops.com Sun Aug 17 12:01:55 2008
From: wf2u at ws19ops.com (Meir-WF2U)
Date: Sun Aug 17 12:08:48 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] TN-339 antenna tuner for sale
In-Reply-To: <48A5B8BA.7070105@ar88.net>
References: <683835.38701.qm@web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<48A5B8BA.7070105@ar88.net>
Message-ID: <001a01c90082$9391e390$0300a8c0@MBDCONSULTING.LOCAL>
Groups,
I wonder whether anyone may have any information on a pre-WW2 US Signal
Corps HF transmitter, ID plate says BC-307A , with contract date 1936. The
manufacturer is General Electric. It's about the size of a BC-191, and the
final tube is a VT-62. Google'ing didn't fetch any results.
My friend, K1VVC picked it up this weekend at a hamfest and would like to
have more information on it.
Thanks,
73, Meir WF2U
Landrum, SC
From wf2u at ws19ops.com Sun Aug 17 12:04:31 2008
From: wf2u at ws19ops.com (Meir-WF2U)
Date: Sun Aug 17 12:11:25 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Info on Pre-WW2 BC-307A transmitter needed (OOPS,
previous message went out with the wrong subject)
In-Reply-To: <48A5B8BA.7070105@ar88.net>
References: <683835.38701.qm@web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
<48A5B8BA.7070105@ar88.net>
Message-ID: <001b01c90082$f06e2ab0$0300a8c0@MBDCONSULTING.LOCAL>
Groups,
I wonder whether anyone may have any information on a pre-WW2 US Signal
Corps HF transmitter, ID plate says BC-307A , with contract date 1936. The
manufacturer is General Electric. It's about the size of a BC-191, and the
final tube is a VT-62. Google'ing didn't fetch any results.
My friend, K1VVC picked it up this weekend at a hamfest and would like to
have more information on it.
Thanks,
73, Meir WF2U
Landrum, SC
From arc5 at ix.netcom.com Sun Aug 17 12:16:11 2008
From: arc5 at ix.netcom.com (David Stinson)
Date: Sun Aug 17 12:23:09 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Partnering on a Lot?
Message-ID: <4659D2E63E4C4FAAA68AA4767529B9A5@boudreaux>
Never attempted this before, but here goes:
There's a lot of equipment at item # 32028770229.
It consists of a BC-191 with dyanmotor, original cables and antenna tuner,
plus SCR-183 items. I'm interested in the SCR-183 stuff and
would "kick in" an amount appropriate to those items,
plus shipping to the person who wins the items.
If you wish, we'll get someone to "hold the money" until the end,
which prevents any unfortunate misunderstandings.
I won't be able to win the whole lot, but perhaps
together we can help each other. If you're interested and going to bid,
please email me privately and we'll work out the details.
Thanks.
From WA5CAB at cs.com Sun Aug 17 12:18:15 2008
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB@cs.com)
Date: Sun Aug 17 12:25:14 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: Info on Pre-WW2 BC-307-A transmitter needed
Message-ID:
Meir,
I have an Instruction Book on the BC-307-B, reprint $20 plus ship. But I
have no idea what if any the differences were between the A and B models.
In a message dated 8/17/2008 11:04:47 AM Central Daylight Time,
wf2u@ws19ops.com writes:
> Groups,
>
> I wonder whether anyone may have any information on a pre-WW2 US Signal
> Corps HF transmitter, ID plate says BC-307A , with contract date 1936. The
> manufacturer is General Electric. It's about the size of a BC-191, and the
> final tube is a VT-62. Google'ing didn't fetch any results.
> My friend, K1VVC picked it up this weekend at a hamfest and would like to
> have more information on it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> 73, Meir WF2U
> Landrum, SC
>
Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480
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From AAF-Radio-1 at aafradio.org Sun Aug 17 12:21:45 2008
From: AAF-Radio-1 at aafradio.org (Mike Hanz)
Date: Sun Aug 17 12:28:26 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Info on Pre-WW2 BC-307A transmitter needed (OOPS,
previous message went out with the wrong subject)
In-Reply-To: <001b01c90082$f06e2ab0$0300a8c0@MBDCONSULTING.LOCAL>
References: <683835.38701.qm@web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <48A5B8BA.7070105@ar88.net>
<001b01c90082$f06e2ab0$0300a8c0@MBDCONSULTING.LOCAL>
Message-ID: <48A85019.3090309@aafradio.org>
Part of the SCR-238. I have the manual if he needs a schematic and
components, as well as a brief rundown on mine at
http://aafradio.org/flightdeck/1935/1935.html
73,
Mike
Meir-WF2U wrote:
>I wonder whether anyone may have any information on a pre-WW2 US Signal
>Corps HF transmitter, ID plate says BC-307A , with contract date 1936. The
>manufacturer is General Electric. It's about the size of a BC-191, and the
>final tube is a VT-62. Google'ing didn't fetch any results.
>My friend, K1VVC picked it up this weekend at a hamfest and would like to
>have more information on it.
>
From arc5 at ix.netcom.com Sun Aug 17 12:35:55 2008
From: arc5 at ix.netcom.com (David Stinson)
Date: Sun Aug 17 12:42:52 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: Partnering on a Lot?
References: <4659D2E63E4C4FAAA68AA4767529B9A5@boudreaux>
Message-ID: <61C5FC8D7B234E5984A6213340EE939B@boudreaux>
Sorry. Correct number is 320287702291
Thanks, Robert
From jfor at quik.com Sun Aug 17 16:15:19 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Sun Aug 17 16:20:17 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Speaking of Rejuvenating tubes
References: <48A79E1E.4000305@austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <48A886D7.A1058D9E@quik.com>
I doubt it.
In reading the patent, it seems to refer to a pulsed emission causing
the emitting electrode to vibrate and shake loose crud..
The reason the Gm of a tube goes down is loss of emission of the
cathode, by loss of the Thorium, for example or poisoning of the
cathode. . Over voltage on the filament (overheating) causes more
Thorium to come to the surface and the emission to rise. It's a 50 year
old trick for TV CRT tubes. They sold little autotransformers that
plugged into the CRT socket for that purpose.
There were also "CRT rejuvenators" that connected the grid and other
electrodes together and ran the CRT as a diode at fairly high current to
clean the crud off the cathode. I don't think they were really very
successful, long term.
As to applying voltage between the filament and cathode, indirectly
heated tubes (ones with cathodes) have heaters, not filaments. The
heater's function is to heat the cathode. It is not, of itself, an
important emitter. The heater is also on the wrong side of the cathode
surface to interact w/ the emitting surface much.
Over voltage on the heater or filament will usually increase the
emission for a while, but it is not a permanent cure.
FWIW,
-John
==============
John Hutchins wrote:
> All -
>
> Any one have knowledge if this procedure to Rejuvenate tubes?
> http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2007073517&IA=WO200707
> 517&DISPLAY=CLAIMS
>
> Sounds similar to Rejuvenate tubes article:
> http://www.antiquewireless.org/otb/rejuve.htm
>
> I wonder if a combination of methods would work; over heating by 135%
>
> of rated voltage and Pulsing with a low voltage to cause the filament
>
> to shake.
>
> 1. how much voltage potential would be acceptable between the filament
>
> and cathode since they are not physically connected.
> 2 what would be the frequency required to get the cathode and
> filament
> physically to shake a minute amount.
> 3. Reversing the voltage on the cathode put a positive on the cathode,
>
> Negative on one side of the filament, and plate would this help drive
> off impurities from the cathode.
>
> Hutch
From ramcam at magma.ca Mon Aug 18 08:12:43 2008
From: ramcam at magma.ca (Ralph Cameron)
Date: Mon Aug 18 08:19:34 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] CRT rejuvenator
Message-ID: <002401c9012b$b9a09460$0301a8c0@CAMERON>
I have one of those CRT rejuvenators and have used them in times gone by. This one contains nothing more than a diode capacitor arrangement to boost the peak rectified voltage perhaps 10-15%. It did work for a short period then the CRT finally succumbed.
You could get the same effect by shipping the tube through the local mail system.
73
Ralph
VE3BBM
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From Military1944 at aol.com Mon Aug 18 11:59:51 2008
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944@aol.com)
Date: Mon Aug 18 12:07:07 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] PRC74 knobs anyone ??
Message-ID:
Hello all.
Does anyone have any of the knobs as used on the PRC74 on/off and clarifier
controls, these are slightly bigger than the ones on the frequency selectors.
I have great difficulty switching frequency with the small knobs so I want to
fit the slightly larger ones.
I could do with 3 if anyone has them.
cheers, Ben G4BXD
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From Military1944 at aol.com Mon Aug 18 17:32:32 2008
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944@aol.com)
Date: Mon Aug 18 17:39:39 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Ham Radio hospitality long dead
Message-ID:
Well, could not believe my eyes tonight upon opening a message.
Thinking of a few days away I looked to see if a ham club would be near the
/p location. Found one, and emailed them with what I thought was quite a
polite message, "Will be in the area on one of your meeting nights, would there be
anything on that night?". I added the usual salutation and name.
Now I thought, rather stupidly as it turns out, that I might get something
like "Yes, its so and so talking about this or that", or even "No, nothing
planned just a natter night" and I certainly expected something like "but do
come along, we're a friendly club and would love to have you as a visitor, bring
the wife, have a cuppa or (if meeting in a pub) have a drink and a chat".
What I did get was "Sorry, no". That's it, nothing else, not even a name
attached to the reply. Indeed, I had to re-read the message I sent for fear I
had somehow been rude or such.
Bring newcomers into the hobby ? That's a laugh. With helpful little
messages like that I'm amazed the hobby is still around.
Guess its nights in the pub at the /p then, lets hope its not the pub where
they meet!.
Ben G4BXD
Affiliated to no club, a free spirit.
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From w1eof at hamnutz.com Mon Aug 18 18:31:35 2008
From: w1eof at hamnutz.com (w1eof@hamnutz.com)
Date: Mon Aug 18 18:38:40 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] SO Cable
In-Reply-To: <20080818080156.815CB859C98@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20080818080156.815CB859C98@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <48A9F847.2030103@hamnutz.com>
Did anyone else buy some of the SO cable? I'm just curious. Maybe it's
just me... I was VERY happy to find it. Is there some other source I
don't know about, of does everyone else have their own stash? Curious.
73,
Mark W1EOF
From kim.herron at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 18 20:56:52 2008
From: kim.herron at sbcglobal.net (kim.herron@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon Aug 18 21:03:52 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] SO Cable
References: <20080818080156.815CB859C98@mailman.qth.net>
<48A9F847.2030103@hamnutz.com>
Message-ID: <006201c90196$78800db0$f1adeb4c@HPa550y>
Hi Mark!
FYI, SO is nothing more than rubber covered line cable. It could
also be SJO, SOO, etc. These designations are NEC specific and refer to
petroleum and solvent resistance. You wouldn't know the difference just
looking at it. Most big box home improvement stores carry something
along that line. What in particular were you looking for, as far as
use?
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:31 PM
Subject: [Milsurplus] SO Cable
> Did anyone else buy some of the SO cable? I'm just curious. Maybe it's
> just me... I was VERY happy to find it. Is there some other source I
> don't know about, of does everyone else have their own stash? Curious.
>
> 73,
>
> Mark W1EOF
> ______________________________________________________________
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From rhogan3 at comcast.net Mon Aug 18 22:09:31 2008
From: rhogan3 at comcast.net (Ralph Hogan)
Date: Mon Aug 18 22:16:33 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Huntsville AL hamfest
Message-ID: <005a01c901a0$9fcff150$df6fd3f0$@net>
Thought I'd give an after action report for the hamfest at Huntsville this
past weekend. Since it is in my back yard so to speak, I am fortunate to
attend every year. I'd say it is one of the better ones in the South East,
held at our Civic center all indoors so no rain or heat to contend with.
Last year we hosted the ARRL convention. This year the turnout was about the
same as last year, so I think we had a great attendance. I shared a swap
table with some friends and from our sales I'd say there was a good bit of
buying and selling going on even with the economy the way it is.
Now onto the green stuff,
Saw a TCS pair offered by Eric , a friend and member here on the list. I
think Eric said he sold a PRC-6 before I got to his table but I think the
TCS went back home with him. If anyone is looking, I'll get you together.
Saw someone toting away a piece of ARC5 gear, but from the distance I
couldn't ID it.
Saw some aircraft gear, I think it was an ARC-51.
An R390 as usual made an appearance, but didn't find a new home.
There was a shock mount for a newer piece of gear, perhaps a sincgars.
On the telephone side there was a TA-954 digital voice terminal, but just
one unit.
One guy was doing a brisk business selling the fiberglass mast poles. They
sure are handy to throw up a quick inverted-V.
I lucked out early on Saturday and found an RS-6 with all four pieces in
pretty good shape.
It isn't Dayton, but it is a lot closer for me.
73's
Ralph W4XE
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From w1eof at hamnutz.com Mon Aug 18 23:36:53 2008
From: w1eof at hamnutz.com (w1eof@hamnutz.com)
Date: Mon Aug 18 23:43:56 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] SO Cable (again)
In-Reply-To: <20080818080156.815CB859C98@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20080818080156.815CB859C98@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <48AA3FD5.20209@hamnutz.com>
Some have written to me in reference to my question, so I'm repeating my
post from week before last. As far as I know, you cannot buy 8 conductor
rubber jacketed cable at Lowes or Home Depot. I called some local elec
distributors. They said they could get it, but that there was a min buy.
So I was very happy to find some nice 8 cond cable at a reasonable
price. Although this is not 100% authentic, it's much better for an old
milsurp installation than modern alternatives. Here it goes again: (again
Some nice 8 cond X 16awg SO cable. It's .625" OD and very nice stuff. I
just bought a piece to use on my BC-223 with leftover for another
project. I'm thinking I might even buy some just to hang on to it. It's
not that easy to find rubber jacket cable any more.
I have no connection to the seller except as a happy customer. I was
referred to them by Pete N8PB.
Electronic Surplus, Inc
8755 Munson Road #6
Mentor OH 44060
440-205-8388
www.electronicsurplus.com
Search for Mfg P/N A007 or SKU 40973. It's $1.75 a foot. Web page says
50ft min, but don't believe it. I bought 13 feet for $22.75 + $8.55 S&H.
Mark W1EOF
From antqradio at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 19 00:08:48 2008
From: antqradio at sbcglobal.net (Jim Whartenby)
Date: Tue Aug 19 00:15:49 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Huntsville AL hamfest
In-Reply-To: <005a01c901a0$9fcff150$df6fd3f0$@net>
Message-ID: <579046.63529.qm@web82706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Ralph
Did you see the R-388 for $225 on Saturday morning? It had a repo dust
cover and no tag but otherwise it looked to be in pretty good shape. I
didn't stay long on Saturday so I don't know if it sold.
There were several vendors offering ARC-5 transmitters, receivers
(~$25)and dynamotors for same. Most looked to be unmolested with good
paint. I think there was more milsurplus evident this year then the
year before last. I didn't make it to Huntsville last year.
I did find a SP-200 with cabinet and power supply in a Georgia antique
mall on the Friday before Huntsville. Has a black steel front panel
and a mil contract number stamped on the tag on the back of the
cabinet. Went back to Arkansas with me for about a buck a pound!
Jim
--- Ralph Hogan wrote:
> Thought I'd give an after action report for the hamfest at Huntsville
> this
> past weekend. Since it is in my back yard so to speak, I am fortunate
> to
> attend every year. I'd say it is one of the better ones in the South
> East,
> held at our Civic center all indoors so no rain or heat to contend
> with.
> Last year we hosted the ARRL convention. This year the turnout was
> about the
> same as last year, so I think we had a great attendance. I shared a
> swap
> table with some friends and from our sales I'd say there was a good
> bit of
> buying and selling going on even with the economy the way it is.
>
>
>
> Now onto the green stuff,
>
>
>
> Saw a TCS pair offered by Eric , a friend and member here on the
> list. I
> think Eric said he sold a PRC-6 before I got to his table but I think
> the
> TCS went back home with him. If anyone is looking, I'll get you
> together.
>
> Saw someone toting away a piece of ARC5 gear, but from the distance I
> couldn't ID it.
>
> Saw some aircraft gear, I think it was an ARC-51.
>
> An R390 as usual made an appearance, but didn't find a new home.
>
> There was a shock mount for a newer piece of gear, perhaps a
> sincgars.
>
> On the telephone side there was a TA-954 digital voice terminal, but
> just
> one unit.
>
> One guy was doing a brisk business selling the fiberglass mast poles.
> They
> sure are handy to throw up a quick inverted-V.
>
> I lucked out early on Saturday and found an RS-6 with all four pieces
> in
> pretty good shape.
>
>
>
> It isn't Dayton, but it is a lot closer for me.
>
>
>
> 73's
>
> Ralph W4XE
>
>
>
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From mike at aspirationsoftware.com Tue Aug 19 11:24:14 2008
From: mike at aspirationsoftware.com (Mike Davidsen)
Date: Tue Aug 19 11:31:53 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] mold on canvas bags?
Message-ID: <001801c9020f$a80e8a60$f82b9f20$@com>
I just checked some of my radio gear in storage, and a few of the carry bags
of my gear is just starting to get mold spots on the canvas. These were
previously like new bags, so I'm kinda ticked. Someone told me once the
process of mold spots begins, there isn't much one can do to remove the
effects. Is this true? If not, what's the best way I can remove the spots
without bleaching the entire bag. Will dropping in a load of regular wash
help out?
Mike Davidsen
KI4JSC
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From gzook at yahoo.com Tue Aug 19 12:40:04 2008
From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook)
Date: Tue Aug 19 12:47:09 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] mold on canvas bags?
In-Reply-To: <001801c9020f$a80e8a60$f82b9f20$@com>
Message-ID: <692723.41957.qm@web52901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
You might ask this question on one of the Civil War re-enactors' forums. Such problems are pretty common on the various items used by those re-enacting this period in history.
One of the major forums is at
http://www.cwreenactors.com
You do have to register to gain access but there is nothing sinister about the site.
Glen, K9STH
Website: http://k9sth.com
--- On Tue, 8/19/08, Mike Davidsen wrote:
From: Mike Davidsen
I just checked some of my radio gear in storage, and a few of the carry bags of my gear is just starting to get mold spots on the canvas. These were previously like new bags, so I'm kinda ticked. Someone told me once the process of mold spots begins, there isn't much one can do to remove the effects. Is this true? If not, what's the best way I can remove the spots without bleaching the entire bag. Will dropping in a load of regular wash help out?
From jcoward5452 at aol.com Tue Aug 19 16:08:24 2008
From: jcoward5452 at aol.com (jcoward5452@aol.com)
Date: Tue Aug 19 16:15:48 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] mold on canvas bags?
In-Reply-To: <001801c9020f$a80e8a60$f82b9f20$@com>
References: <001801c9020f$a80e8a60$f82b9f20$@com>
Message-ID: <8CAD04E7865953C-14E4-D36@WEBMAIL-NG17.sysops.aol.com>
Maybe some dish soap and warm water and an old toothbrush and work a
small area,rinse and let air dry as an experiment.New canvas may shrink
some after getting wet so I wouldn't try the washing machine unless
someone has tried with success already.
Does anyone know if ScotchGuard is useful here?
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Davidsen
To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 8:24 am
Subject: [Milsurplus] mold on canvas bags?
I just checked some of my radio gear in storage, and a few of the carry
bags of my gear is just starting to get mold spots on the canvas.?
These were previously like new bags, so I?m kinda ticked.? Someone told
me once the process of mold spots begins, there isn?t much one can do
to remove the effects.? Is this true?? If not, what?s the best way I
can remove the spots without bleaching the entire bag.? Will dropping
in a load of regular wash help out?
?
?
Mike Davidsen
KI4JSC
?
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From antqradio at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 19 16:44:36 2008
From: antqradio at sbcglobal.net (Jim Whartenby)
Date: Tue Aug 19 16:51:44 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] mold on canvas bags?
In-Reply-To: <8CAD04E7865953C-14E4-D36@WEBMAIL-NG17.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <877679.49141.qm@web82706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
What about moth balls and a plastic bag?
Jim
--- jcoward5452@aol.com wrote:
> Maybe some dish soap and warm water and an old toothbrush and work a
> small area,rinse and let air dry as an experiment.New canvas may
> shrink
> some after getting wet so I wouldn't try the washing machine unless
> someone has tried with success already.
> Does anyone know if ScotchGuard is useful here?
> Jay
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Davidsen
> To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 8:24 am
> Subject: [Milsurplus] mold on canvas bags?
>
>
>
>
> I just checked some of my radio gear in storage, and a few of the
> carry
> bags of my gear is just starting to get mold spots on the canvas.??
> These were previously like new bags, so I???m kinda ticked.?? Someone
> told
> me once the process of mold spots begins, there isn???t much one can
> do
> to remove the effects.?? Is this true??? If not, what???s the best
> way I
> can remove the spots without bleaching the entire bag.?? Will
> dropping
> in a load of regular wash help out?
>
> ??
>
> ??
>
> Mike Davidsen
>
> KI4JSC
>
> ??
>
>
>
>
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From jfor at quik.com Tue Aug 19 16:47:10 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Tue Aug 19 16:52:27 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] mold on canvas bags?
References: <001801c9020f$a80e8a60$f82b9f20$@com>
<8CAD04E7865953C-14E4-D36@WEBMAIL-NG17.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <48AB314D.24EA8A72@quik.com>
I've read that freezing for a week or two helkps with mold
Best,
-John
=================
jcoward5452@aol.com wrote:
> Maybe some dish soap and warm water and an old toothbrush and work a
> small area,rinse and let air dry as an experiment.New canvas may shrink
> some after getting wet so I wouldn't try the washing machine unless
> someone has tried with success already.
> Does anyone know if ScotchGuard is useful here?
> Jay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Davidsen
> To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 8:24 am
> Subject: [Milsurplus] mold on canvas bags?
>
> I just checked some of my radio gear in storage, and a few of the carry
> bags of my gear is just starting to get mold spots on the canvas.?
> These were previously like new bags, so I???m kinda ticked.? Someone told
> me once the process of mold spots begins, there isn???t much one can do
> to remove the effects.? Is this true?? If not, what???s the best way I
> can remove the spots without bleaching the entire bag.? Will dropping
> in a load of regular wash help out?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> Mike Davidsen
>
> KI4JSC
>
> ?
>
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From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com Tue Aug 19 19:53:03 2008
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Tue Aug 19 19:59:43 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] mold on canvas bags & Things
In-Reply-To: <877679.49141.qm@web82706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <877679.49141.qm@web82706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48AB5CDF.8040504@austin.rr.com>
Mike Davidsen, All -
Book restorers have the same problem and gave me this solution. Direct sunlight exposure for no more than 30 minutes.
On a dry, bright sunny day expose the mold areas to 30 minutes of sun light. With a clean cloth or brush: brush ... brush the mold areas. I have done this it works. I went one step further.
I then placed the item in a clear plastic bag and then placed (sachet or vented container with chlorine tablets) over a few days then re-exposed for 30 minutes, the lot, to another round of direct high sun light. This makes sure the mold is killed. Re-Brushed the areas of mold, dried up and gone. Then repacked in bag containing the tablets for another 48 hours just to make sure. No water needed. The chlorine tablets gassed out rather well. The sunlight, chlorine gas, and brushing did a good job killing and removing the dead mold.
For old documents do not expose pages for more than 30 minutes at a time. Gently Wipe or brush using clean cloth rags or soft brush. I think this keeps the ink from fading. --> Must use clean rags or brushes, changed frequently, to remove dead mold spores. <--
See your local Pool supply dealer. Also note that (Kaboom Toilet Bowl Cleaner Canister) found in the grocery store contains nothing but chlorine, tablets or crystals, in a vented plastic canister. Normally the canister is hooked up in line with the toilet fill valve.
Hutch
From kargo_cult at msn.com Wed Aug 20 04:19:54 2008
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Wed Aug 20 04:30:31 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Info on Pre-WW2 BC-307A transmitter needed
References: <683835.38701.qm@web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com><48A5B8BA.7070105@ar88.net>
<001b01c90082$f06e2ab0$0300a8c0@MBDCONSULTING.LOCAL>
Message-ID:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Meir-WF2U"
> I wonder whether anyone may have any information on a pre-WW2 US Signal
> Corps HF transmitter, ID plate says BC-307A , with contract date 1936. The
> manufacturer is General Electric. It's about the size of a BC-191, and the
> final tube is a VT-62.
Meir, what condition is his?
This makes at least 3 known: his, Mike's, and mine.
Unfortunately, it uses a tube apparently in great demand by
"glass audio" enthusiasts. I saw a used 801 at a recent
swap for $35.
-Hue Miller
From cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org Wed Aug 20 14:58:00 2008
From: cosmoline at aa4rm.ba-watch.org (Marty Reynolds)
Date: Wed Aug 20 15:09:08 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Info on Pre-WW2 BC-307A transmitter needed
In-Reply-To:
References: <683835.38701.qm@web84105.mail.mud.yahoo.com><48A5B8BA.7070105@ar88.net><001b01c90082$f06e2ab0$0300a8c0@MBDCONSULTING.LOCAL>
Message-ID: <17619.24.30.81.88.1219258680.squirrel@fracas.netboobie.org>
> This makes at least 3 known: his, Mike's, and mine.
fore!
From mcenfalz at humboldt1.com Thu Aug 21 00:49:06 2008
From: mcenfalz at humboldt1.com (Laura and Jim)
Date: Thu Aug 21 00:56:26 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] RE: Ham Radio hospitality
Message-ID: <738660F35B014753AF90A3421DE9D15E@HomePC>
That is EXACTLY the stuff that kept me out of Amateur radio until I was in my mid-40's: Couple of bad/neutral encounters; cold shoulder, or sometimes, no shoulder at all.
So, enjoy your cuppa while on Holiday. They'll be gone eventually, victims of attrition, and the Hobby will be all the better.
Conversely, "pests" at my local club kept after me after I showed them some of my homebrew xtal sets, and here I am: up to my eyeballs in old gear, active in the club and the Hobby, and happy as a clam.
Cheers!
Jim Falls
KG6FWT
Eureka, CA
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From mcenfalz at humboldt1.com Thu Aug 21 00:54:55 2008
From: mcenfalz at humboldt1.com (Laura and Jim)
Date: Thu Aug 21 01:02:14 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: mold on canvas bags?
Message-ID: <955D75ED8A504BD98FD5CA94117E704D@HomePC>
Get them cleaned up using one of the earlier techniques and...
KEEP THEM DRY. I store stuff w/recycled silica-gel packets in it (dry them out in the oven). There is a cat litter made of the stuff, IIRC.
Cheers!
Jim Falls
KG6FWT
Eureka, CA
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From mike at aspirationsoftware.com Thu Aug 21 10:13:03 2008
From: mike at aspirationsoftware.com (Mike Davidsen)
Date: Thu Aug 21 10:20:54 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] looking for AM-6874 amplifier
Message-ID: <003601c90398$0a0a9db0$1e1fd910$@com>
Anyone know of a good source for a working AM-6874/PRC-104 amplifier? I
know of a couple dealers with them, but they only sell them as complete
PRC-104 sets, and won't break up a set to sell just the amplifier.
Mike Davidsen
KI4JSC
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From nick at 3rdtech.com Thu Aug 21 11:03:55 2008
From: nick at 3rdtech.com (Nick England)
Date: Thu Aug 21 11:12:04 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Navy shore radio station manuals & info wanted
Message-ID: <039401c9039f$2246abb0$fd0212ac@Heathkit2>
I'm looking for NAVSHIPS 91047 which covers RF and AF Signal Distribution
Units for Navy shore receiving stations.
Also looking for NAVSHIPS 91500 covering AN/FRA-3 RF switching group which
was used in these installations.
Army TM's seem easy to find, but I'd appreciate any suggestions about how to
find Navy manuals like this - is there a library that might have them?
Any photos or info at all on Navy shore receiving sites would be greatly
appreciated.
Ditto for Navy shore transmitting stations.
What I have so far is posted at
http://www.virhistory.com/navy/commsta.htm
Many thanks,
Nick
From kargo_cult at msn.com Fri Aug 22 04:23:43 2008
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Fri Aug 22 04:34:50 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Wanted: RAL knobs
References: <003601c90398$0a0a9db0$1e1fd910$@com>
Message-ID:
Had the need to dig in my out of state storage place,
and fetch things to dispose. Was thinking about
disposing of the RAL but when i saw it again, i
realized i really liked the thing more than many other
items i have. But.....someone replaced all the knobs
EXCEPT tuning knob, with URM-25 type knobs. These
look decent except there's a great variety of knobs on
it with no rhyme or reason. So....i am eager to buy all
the RAK / RAL knobs except tuning knob....is there a
parts unit out there? Will pay a good price for the set
of knobs. Tnx - Hue Miller K7HUE
From kargo_cult at msn.com Fri Aug 22 04:32:51 2008
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Fri Aug 22 04:43:22 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] RA-62 supply specs ?
References: <039401c9039f$2246abb0$fd0212ac@Heathkit2>
Message-ID:
I found an RA-62 power supply in my storage. I am
pretty sure this is for the ground version of the SCR-522
radio. I could not find much on the internet, certainly not
the specs. I don't plan at all on acquiring an SCR-522 type
thing so will either dispose of the thing or try to use it to
power something else. What high B+ can i expect out of
this? Tnx - Hue Miller K7HUE
From elden_meyer at yahoo.com Fri Aug 22 09:45:26 2008
From: elden_meyer at yahoo.com (elden meyer)
Date: Fri Aug 22 09:52:48 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] RE: RA-62 specs
Message-ID: <596739.61247.qm@web58015.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
The RA-62 power supply is rated to give:
13 VDC heater at 3.9 A
- 150 VDC bias at 8 mA
+ 300 VDC plate at 230 mA
A full description is in the TM for radio set SCR-624, and
a schematic is on the SCR-522 page in the CQ Surplus
Schematics Handbook. Both available for free download
on the Internet.
From nick at 3rdtech.com Fri Aug 22 14:17:15 2008
From: nick at 3rdtech.com (Nick England)
Date: Fri Aug 22 14:24:55 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] PPI scope for SA radar - $1 auction
Message-ID: <038601c90483$4e49b510$fd0212ac@Heathkit2>
item 190245862979
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190245862979
Type 55ADP PPI made by Dumont for use with SA or SA-2 radar.
some info here -
http://www.tpub.com/content/radar/TM-11-487C-1/TM-11-487C-11449.htm
Item is in Texas - surely some ship restorer needs to save it - no bidders
yet and it is just $1.
disclaimer - no relationship with seller
cheers & I really hope I didn't offend any of the various posting format
religions,
Nick
www.virhistory.com/navy
From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com Fri Aug 22 14:58:15 2008
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Fri Aug 22 15:05:41 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] PPI scope for SA radar - $1 auction
In-Reply-To: <038601c90483$4e49b510$fd0212ac@Heathkit2>
References: <038601c90483$4e49b510$fd0212ac@Heathkit2>
Message-ID: <7de2d65c0808221158g467a1d62x4229007fc1088ef7@mail.gmail.com>
Wow, 165 pounds.
73, ian K3IMW
From kargo_cult at msn.com Fri Aug 22 14:59:21 2008
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Fri Aug 22 15:06:46 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] RE: RA-62 specs
In-Reply-To: <596739.61247.qm@web58015.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <596739.61247.qm@web58015.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID:
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:45:26 -0700> From: elden_meyer@yahoo.com> To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net> Subject: [Milsurplus] RE: RA-62 specs> > The RA-62 power supply is rated to give:> 13 VDC heater at 3.9 A> - 150 VDC bias at 8 mA> + 300 VDC plate at 230 mA> > A full description is in the TM for radio set SCR-624, and> a schematic is on the SCR-522 page in the CQ Surplus> Schematics Handbook. Both available for free download> on the Internet.
Tnx! I even have that book - somewhere - but due to lack of interest in
SCR-624, mentally screened out that info.
Gee - by the size of the supply, i'd have guessed kilowatt level.
Put this together with the radio, and you have a contender for the
lbs. / watt category. -Hue
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From WA5CAB at cs.com Fri Aug 22 23:24:09 2008
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB@cs.com)
Date: Fri Aug 22 23:31:42 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] RE: RA-62 specs
Message-ID:
I'm not sure why you would guess anywhere near a KW for something made in
1943. Consider a moderately compact medium power line operated transmitter of
the era, the 750 Watt (CW input) HT-4 (BC-610). The plate transformer alone is
about as large as the RA-62 and weighs maybe three times as much. Plus
consider that at that time providing 4 amps at 14 VDC in a unit that could be picked
up easily (and turned over safely) wasn't trivial. Or to compare apples to
apples consider the weight and volume of the other two common VHF AM ground or
shipboard transmitters of WW-II, the BC-640 and the TDQ. Not including the
PE-75 and wire equipment, the SCR-624 was quite a bit lighter than either.
In a message dated 8/22/2008 1:59:57 PM Central Daylight Time,
kargo_cult@msn.com writes:
> Gee - by the size of the supply, i'd have guessed kilowatt level.
> Put this together with the radio, and you have a contender for the
> lbs. / watt category. -Hue
>
Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480
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From vk5abc at optusnet.com.au Sat Aug 23 08:24:50 2008
From: vk5abc at optusnet.com.au (L Ritta)
Date: Sat Aug 23 08:32:40 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] MD-129/GRC-27
References: <038601c90483$4e49b510$fd0212ac@Heathkit2>
Message-ID:
Hello Everyone
Anyone with a circuit for the above modulator/power supply
Lee
From Military1944 at aol.com Sat Aug 23 10:07:15 2008
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944@aol.com)
Date: Sat Aug 23 10:14:49 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] QSL owner
Message-ID:
Hi,
Does anyone know how to get in touch with Al Waller K3TKJ, owner of the qsl
site ?
I have tried email, no reply. I guess he must get loads of email but that
don't help me.
Its just I have forgotten one of my passwords and can not upload or change
my website at the moment.
cheers, Ben G4BXD
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From vk5abc at optusnet.com.au Sat Aug 23 11:52:56 2008
From: vk5abc at optusnet.com.au (L Ritta)
Date: Sat Aug 23 12:00:29 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] MD-129/GRC-27
Message-ID: <521DA484B52146D99930A9F55F943D0D@ufp>
Hello Everyone
Anyone with a circuit for the above modulator/power supply
Lee
From jfor at quik.com Sun Aug 24 13:33:46 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Sun Aug 24 13:39:23 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] FFS: ARC-1
Message-ID: <48B19B7A.AFBCE1E5@quik.com>
I have an ARC-1 that was given to me by a friend in the Boston, MA area.
It has not sold on fleaBay or at a local ham flea.
If anyone wants it for cost of shipping, please email me off-list. It
has a dyno and most everything else but no finals and is somewhat
cosmetically challenged.
Best,
-John
From bl_6000 at yahoo.com.au Sun Aug 24 16:18:15 2008
From: bl_6000 at yahoo.com.au (Brad Latta)
Date: Sun Aug 24 16:25:52 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] APR-1
Message-ID: <407133.36747.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Recently an APR-1 went on the 'E' auction place for a bargain price & I missed it!! If someone has one & are willing to part with it, please let me know off list. I have all the tuning units, so I don't really need those. Here's the link
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350087856472
Brad
Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset
From jfor at quik.com Sun Aug 24 16:46:17 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Sun Aug 24 16:51:59 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Key Question CMI-26003A
References: <00dd01c8fce6$f28c7cb0$41b2eb4c@HPa550y>
Message-ID: <48B1C899.F8ED2877@quik.com>
Hi,
I have a Morse Key, marked CMI-26003A with a USN Anchor stamp on the
bottom. It's apparently a "Flameproof" key, but what set(s) was it typically
used with.
Thanks,
-John
From arc5 at ix.netcom.com Sun Aug 24 16:48:30 2008
From: arc5 at ix.netcom.com (David Stinson)
Date: Sun Aug 24 16:56:08 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Wrinkle Paint: Bike Shops?
Message-ID:
Since Harleys still use wrinkle paint on some of their bike parts,
has anyone investigated getting cases wrinkle painted at custom
bike shops?
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From kargo_cult at msn.com Sun Aug 24 17:48:55 2008
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Sun Aug 24 17:59:47 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] APR-1
References: <407133.36747.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID:
Gee, i was expecting to see a bargain (hamfest) price, and i didn't.
Come to think of it, the hamfest price would be zero, because no one would
buy it. Saw one last week at the antique radio swapmeet that experienced
exactly that scenario. Also think i gave one away just a few years back.
Brad, what do you want that thing for? It can't be to use it, as it has diode
mixer, no RF, on the higher TUs. -Hue Miller K7HUE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Latta"
To:
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 1:18 PM
Subject: [Milsurplus] APR-1
Recently an APR-1 went on the 'E' auction place for a bargain price & I missed it!! If someone has
one & are willing to part with it, please let me know off list. I have all the tuning units, so I
don't really need those. Here's the link
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350087856472
Brad
Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset
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From ai4wm at yahoo.com Sun Aug 24 18:05:18 2008
From: ai4wm at yahoo.com (Bill MacLane)
Date: Sun Aug 24 18:12:56 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Wrinkle Paint: Bike Shops?
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <38804.57738.qm@web57912.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
I forget where I found some on the web, but Antique Radio Supply now Antique Electronic Supply sells wrinkle paint in limited colors.
73,
Bill
AI4WM
--- On Sun, 8/24/08, David Stinson wrote:
> From: David Stinson
> Subject: [Milsurplus] Wrinkle Paint: Bike Shops?
> To: "Old Tude Radios" , milsurplus@mailman.qth.net, "ARC5"
> Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 4:48 PM
> Since Harleys still use wrinkle paint on some of their bike
> parts,
> has anyone investigated getting cases wrinkle painted at
> custom
> bike shops?
>
> ----------------
>
> http://home.netcom.com/~arc5/3.gif
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From WA5CAB at cs.com Sun Aug 24 18:12:25 2008
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB@cs.com)
Date: Sun Aug 24 18:20:08 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Wrinkle Paint: Bike Shops?
Message-ID:
I still have the Signal Corps green wrinkle available.
In a message dated 8/24/2008 5:05:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
ai4wm@yahoo.com writes:
> I forget where I found some on the web, but Antique Radio Supply now
> Antique Electronic Supply sells wrinkle paint in limited colors.
>
> 73,
> Bill
> AI4WM
>
>
> --- On Sun, 8/24/08, David Stinson wrote:
>
> >From: David Stinson
> >Subject: [Milsurplus] Wrinkle Paint: Bike Shops?
> >To: "Old Tude Radios" ,
> milsurplus@mailman.qth.net, "ARC5"
> >Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 4:48 PM
> >Since Harleys still use wrinkle paint on some of their bike
> >parts,
> >has anyone investigated getting cases wrinkle painted at
> >custom
> >bike shops?
> >
Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480
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From kk5f at earthlink.net Sun Aug 24 18:25:30 2008
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Sun Aug 24 18:33:07 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Key Question CMI-26003A
Message-ID: <25889060.1219616730425.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
John wrote:
>I have a Morse Key, marked CMI-26003A with a USN Anchor stamp on the
>bottom. It's apparently a "Flameproof" key, but what set(s) was it
>typically used with.
The type -26003A key is the USN version of the Bendix commercial MT-11 key. It would likely have been found on any WWII and later USN aircraft with a HF liason set and radio operator. These were found on aircraft well into the 1960s, maybe even later, that carried the AN/ARC-38, -38A, and/or AN/ARC-94 HF sets. Consider it the USN equivalent to the USAAF/USAF J-37.
The -26003 is one of my favorite keys.
Mike / KK5F
From wf2u at ws19ops.com Sun Aug 24 18:28:30 2008
From: wf2u at ws19ops.com (Meir-WF2U)
Date: Sun Aug 24 18:36:08 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Key Question CMI-26003A
In-Reply-To: <48B1C899.F8ED2877@quik.com>
References: <00dd01c8fce6$f28c7cb0$41b2eb4c@HPa550y>
<48B1C899.F8ED2877@quik.com>
Message-ID: <018d01c90638$bee73b10$0300a8c0@MBDCONSULTING.LOCAL>
John,
The Cxx-26003A "flameproof" Navy key was used on Navy aircraft.
I have several photos of radio operators positions with the radios, on board
several types of Navy aircraft.
One early setup in PBY's was the GO-9 transmitter with the RU-19 receiver -
the photo clearly shows that key.
Some other Navy aircraft had the RU-series receivers with the GF series
transmitters (the predecessors of the Command Set), the same key was listed
as part of the system.
I have a photo of a late model PBY4 type patrol aircraft with an ATC (the
Navy version of the ART-13) and the 3 RAX receivers.
The "competitor" of the ATC was the ATD, which was usually paired with the
ARB receiver. The transmitter manual shows the "flameproof" key.
So it looks like all Navy aircraft radio setups used the flameproof key as a
standard accessory.
BTW Bunnell still has NOS, in the box keys of that type of their
manufacture, selling them for $85 , the last time I looked on their website.
73, Meir WF2U
Landrum, SC
-----Original Message-----
From: milsurplus-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:milsurplus-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of J Forster
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 4:46 PM
To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Milsurplus] Key Question CMI-26003A
Hi,
I have a Morse Key, marked CMI-26003A with a USN Anchor stamp on the
bottom. It's apparently a "Flameproof" key, but what set(s) was it typically
used with.
Thanks,
-John
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From jfor at quik.com Sun Aug 24 18:39:34 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Sun Aug 24 18:45:21 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Key Question CMI-26003A
References: <00dd01c8fce6$f28c7cb0$41b2eb4c@HPa550y>
<48B1C899.F8ED2877@quik.com>
<018d01c90638$bee73b10$0300a8c0@MBDCONSULTING.LOCAL>
Message-ID: <48B1E326.E4C706C7@quik.com>
Thanks very much for all the replies.
Best,
-John
==========================
Meir-WF2U wrote:
> John,
>
> The Cxx-26003A "flameproof" Navy key was used on Navy aircraft.
> I have several photos of radio operators positions with the radios, on board
> several types of Navy aircraft. [snip]
From kk5f at earthlink.net Sun Aug 24 19:08:07 2008
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Sun Aug 24 19:15:44 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Key Question CMI-26003A
Message-ID: <12740596.1219619287547.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Meir wrote:
>BTW Bunnell still has NOS, in the box keys of that type of their
>manufacture, selling them for $85...
The J. H. Bunnell web site is very interesting for the history of Morse operation, especially by wire:
http://jhbunnell.com/
This company is, of course, very famous in our collecting circle as one of the manufacturers of that main-stay of WWII US Army Signal Corps communications, the SCR-178. :-)
It was founded in 1878, and for many decades it was the principal equipment supplier to the Western Union wire telegraph system. They are currently offering (for about $550!) a subminiature key and sounder set at:
http://jhbunnell.com/specialoffer.shtml
For anyone interested in the history of the wire telegraph in the US from before 1832 to the final demise of the Western Union telegraph system in the late 1980s, there is the excellent 1993 book "The Telegraph" written by Lewis Coe, a former wire telegraph operator. The book was republished in paperback in 2002.
The book mentions that miniature key/sounder sets such as that shown above were often presented as retirement gifts to outgoing operators.
Mike / KK5F
From jmccarty at alcatel-lucent.com Sun Aug 24 20:03:21 2008
From: jmccarty at alcatel-lucent.com (John J Mccarty)
Date: Sun Aug 24 20:11:05 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: [ARC5] Wrinkle Paint: Bike Shops?
References:
Message-ID: <48B1F6C9.1070100@lucent.com>
I have bought black wrinkle paint at the local Harley shop. If I remember right
it was around $20 for a standard size spray can.
73
n9hrt
On 8/24/2008 3:48 PM, David Stinson wrote:
> Since Harleys still use wrinkle paint on some of their bike parts,
> has anyone investigated getting cases wrinkle painted at custom
> bike shops?
>
> ----------------
>
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From sean_ee02 at hotmail.com Sun Aug 24 21:29:58 2008
From: sean_ee02 at hotmail.com (Sean Barton)
Date: Sun Aug 24 21:37:33 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: [ARC5] Wrinkle Paint: Bike Shops?
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Plasti-Kote makes a black wrinkle paint. I bought a couple cans from a
local auto parts store last year. You can look on their website to see who
carries their products in your area.
Sean
--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Stinson"
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:48 PM
To: "Old Tude Radios" ;
; "ARC5"
Subject: [ARC5] Wrinkle Paint: Bike Shops?
> Since Harleys still use wrinkle paint on some of their bike parts,
> has anyone investigated getting cases wrinkle painted at custom
> bike shops?
> ----------------
>
> http://home.netcom.com/~arc5/3.gif
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From kargo_cult at msn.com Sun Aug 24 22:23:57 2008
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Sun Aug 24 22:34:49 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: [ARC5] Wrinkle Paint: Bike Shops?
References:
Message-ID:
I was looking at a BC-474 recently that had a power coat OD
finish. I thought, how marvellous, why didn't they do them all
like this, but then i opened it up and saw the XTAL/ VFO
toggle, neatly done, and the new handle on top and the nameplate
gone, and realized that someone had neatly changed it into his
"emergency radio" but had done a fine job of repainting it.
-Hue K7HUE
From ka1kaq at gmail.com Mon Aug 25 09:15:31 2008
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Mon Aug 25 09:23:11 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: [ARC5] Wrinkle Paint: Bike Shops?
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <9ccb8c510808250615p5552445ehb8f85591fe0c7dc6@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 4:48 PM, David Stinson wrote:
> Since Harleys still use wrinkle paint on some of their bike parts,
> has anyone investigated getting cases wrinkle painted at custom
> bike shops?
The type I used to buy there in the late 70s/early 80s was the VHT
brand, and it was excellent stuff. Couple good coats, into the oven,
voila - thick wrinkle. Not sure if it's still available considering
how regulations have changed since then.
One word of warning: cure it well, or it will remain soft for years. I
have a National cabinet here that still has things stick to it if left
on top for any amount of time.
Robert - is your green wrinkle the same color used on FAA/Airport gear
by Press Wireless and others?
~ Todd, KA1KAQ
From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com Mon Aug 25 09:40:41 2008
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Mon Aug 25 09:48:04 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: [ARC5] Wrinkle Paint: Bike Shops?
In-Reply-To: <9ccb8c510808250615p5552445ehb8f85591fe0c7dc6@mail.gmail.com>
References:
<9ccb8c510808250615p5552445ehb8f85591fe0c7dc6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48B2B659.9030709@austin.rr.com>
All -
Google +Wrinkle +Paint +Black
*74,600* *English* pages * *for any time
*9,910* *English* pages over the *past month
*Based on the last listing found:
Krylon Wrinkle Black Textured Spray Finish 12 oz $5.99
VHT SP201
Eastwod 10014 Z $10.99
Plasti Kote $10.99
Any how its out there if you need it.
Hutch
Todd, KA1KAQ wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 4:48 PM, David Stinson wrote:
>
>> Since Harleys still use wrinkle paint on some of their bike parts,
>> has anyone investigated getting cases wrinkle painted at custom
>> bike shops?
>>
>
> The type I used to buy there in the late 70s/early 80s was the VHT
> brand, and it was excellent stuff. Couple good coats, into the oven,
> voila - thick wrinkle. Not sure if it's still available considering
> how regulations have changed since then.
>
> One word of warning: cure it well, or it will remain soft for years. I
> have a National cabinet here that still has things stick to it if left
> on top for any amount of time.
>
> Robert - is your green wrinkle the same color used on FAA/Airport gear
> by Press Wireless and others?
>
> ~ Todd, KA1KAQ
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From ka1kaq at gmail.com Mon Aug 25 10:38:08 2008
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Mon Aug 25 10:45:51 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: [ARC5] Wrinkle Paint: Bike Shops?
In-Reply-To: <48B2B659.9030709@austin.rr.com>
References:
<9ccb8c510808250615p5552445ehb8f85591fe0c7dc6@mail.gmail.com>
<48B2B659.9030709@austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <9ccb8c510808250738s3a431747ld1221bde02ea08e4@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 9:40 AM, John Hutchins
wrote:
> All -
> Google +Wrinkle +Paint +Black
> *74,600* *English* pages * *for any time
> *9,910* *English* pages over the *past month
>
> *Based on the last listing found:
> Krylon Wrinkle Black Textured Spray Finish 12 oz $5.99
> VHT SP201
> Eastwod 10014 Z $10.99
> Plasti Kote $10.99
Thanks Hutch -
Don't need any right now, but it's good to see that VHT is still
available. $8.80/can these days, more than the $3.95 I paid 30 years
ago at the Harley store but really not a bad price for a specialty
paint. Adjusted for inflation, it's probably a better deal now.
Here's their recommendation for curing VHT:
"Curing
Bake at 200F (90C) for one hour, to accelerate drying process and for
tighter wrinkles."
Probably works well for other wrinkle finish paints as well.
FWIW, someone on another list recently queried Krylon for info on
baking their enamels for a harder finish. Their response was that they
didn't recommend baking for any of their paints now since they are all
'plastic' paints or such. Can't recall the exact wording, but I do
recall Rust-Oleum being the tougher of the two, Krylon scratching and
wearing easily in comparison. A few years back, a fellow on the R-390
list wrapped some knobs in Kleenex that he had painted the previous
day and put them in his pocket to take to work. When he got there,
there was bare metal showing in spots. He had used Krylon, and Kleenex
is apparently abrasive enough to damage it.
~ Todd, KA1KAQ
From WA5CAB at cs.com Mon Aug 25 11:00:01 2008
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB@cs.com)
Date: Mon Aug 25 11:07:48 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: [ARC5] Wrinkle Paint: Bike Shops?
Message-ID:
Todd,
I haven't noticed the stickiness problem with the Seymour paint I have but it
does take quite a long time to harden. Probably the oven cure would
accelerate that. What items I've done I have allowed to air dry. A couple of
customers have reported getting good results only with an oven but I'm not certain
why.
It's been years since I last saw any green FAA gear but my dim recollection
is that it perhaps had less of a brown tinge (i.e., closer to green than
olive). The green I have looks somewhat lighter or yellower than some NOS BC-611
parts I have but over time it darkens toward them (they were the color match
samples we used).
In a message dated 8/25/2008 8:15:51 AM Central Daylight Time,
ka1kaq@gmail.com writes:
> One word of warning: cure it well, or it will remain soft for years. I
> have a National cabinet here that still has things stick to it if left
> on top for any amount of time.
>
> Robert - is your green wrinkle the same color used on FAA/Airport gear
> by Press Wireless and others?
>
Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480
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From gzook at yahoo.com Mon Aug 25 11:27:26 2008
From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook)
Date: Mon Aug 25 11:35:07 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: [ARC5] Wrinkle Paint: Bike Shops?
In-Reply-To: <9ccb8c510808250615p5552445ehb8f85591fe0c7dc6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <394050.26006.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Illinois Bronze Paint Company used to make some extremely good wrinkle paint that came in quite a number of different colors. Unfortunately, due to EPA regulations, this paint has not been available for quite a number of years.
The Krylon wrinkle paint, in my experience, does a better job than the other brands that I have used. However, I am still not pleased with using it on very large surfaces. The Plasti-Kote wrinkle paint is VERY "spotty" in how it performs. For example, I make replacement crystal door covers for the Heath DX-35 and DX-40. I paint these 3.5 inch by 4 inch doors 9 at a time and out of the 9 maybe 2 or 3 have a usable finish. The others range from bad to . . .
I was using Rust-Oleum Stone Creations paint for a pretty good wrinkle finish. Of course you have to over spray with the desired color. However, I recently have switched to Plasti-Kote "Projekt Paint" Stone Touch paint. This paint produces a finer, more even, finish that looks very good. Now it takes a couple minutes of practice (like spraying on a piece of cardboard) to get the right "touch". But, after learning how to apply the paint getting an even finish is pretty easy. For some reason, the gray paint in both the Rust-Oleum and the Plasti-Kote paint give the best finish. Both paint lines are available in various colors but the gray is best.
Glen, K9STH
Website: http://k9sth.com
--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Todd, KA1KAQ wrote:
From: Todd, KA1KAQ
The type I used to buy there in the late 70s/early 80s was the VHT brand, and it was excellent stuff. Couple good coats, into the oven, voila - thick wrinkle. Not sure if it's still available considering how regulations have changed since then.
One word of warning: cure it well, or it will remain soft for years. I have a National cabinet here that still has things stick to it if left on top for any amount of time.
From nick at 3rdtech.com Mon Aug 25 12:04:58 2008
From: nick at 3rdtech.com (Nick England)
Date: Mon Aug 25 12:15:39 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Navy keys - ship & shore
In-Reply-To: <48B1C899.F8ED2877@quik.com>
References: <00dd01c8fce6$f28c7cb0$41b2eb4c@HPa550y>
<48B1C899.F8ED2877@quik.com>
Message-ID: <031c01c906cc$52d18e50$fd0212ac@Heathkit2>
Thanks for the 26003 info, guys.
Was the 26003 flameproof key used just on aircraft or also shipboard?
For Navy shore station and shipboard use, I have seen the Navy Type 23146
and SB-315()/U assemblies - they are made to mount into a desktop and also
contain transmitter OFF-ON switches and an indicator lamp. I know what the
later model SB-315B/U looks like, but I'm not sure about the key used on
earlier models.
FYI - Photos at
http://www.virhistory.com/navy/xmtr-key.htm
Non-flameproof straight keys (like a J-37) include Navy types 26001, 26012,
26026
Any additional photos/info are greatly appreciated.
cheers,
Nick
www.virhistory.com/navy
From josepho at shaw.ca Mon Aug 25 13:12:20 2008
From: josepho at shaw.ca (Joseph Orgnero)
Date: Mon Aug 25 13:20:01 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] WTD LTV G-175 schematic
Message-ID: <003401c906d5$bbe6b6f0$c9454246@ourcomputer>
Hello,
I'm looking for a legible copy of the schematic for the main chassis (fig. 7-1 on the manual) of the LTV G-175 VHF receiver. I do have a copy of the manual but this page has been reduced in size and is unreadable.
I'll be glad to pay for the copy and mailing costs.
Thanks
Joe Orgnero VE7LBI
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From jfor at quik.com Mon Aug 25 22:45:44 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Mon Aug 25 22:51:38 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
Message-ID: <48B36E58.F4541022@quik.com>
http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/Payments/
-John
===============
From jcoward5452 at aol.com Tue Aug 26 11:52:23 2008
From: jcoward5452 at aol.com (jcoward5452@aol.com)
Date: Tue Aug 26 12:00:39 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
In-Reply-To: <48B36E58.F4541022@quik.com>
References: <48B36E58.F4541022@quik.com>
Message-ID: <8CAD5AADCDD3D5C-E20-5B3E@webmail-nf13.sim.aol.com>
Maybe we will see a resurgence of the good old Ham swap meets.
Jay KE6PPF
From ka1kaq at gmail.com Tue Aug 26 12:21:44 2008
From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ)
Date: Tue Aug 26 12:29:34 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
In-Reply-To: <8CAD5AADCDD3D5C-E20-5B3E@webmail-nf13.sim.aol.com>
References: <48B36E58.F4541022@quik.com>
<8CAD5AADCDD3D5C-E20-5B3E@webmail-nf13.sim.aol.com>
Message-ID: <9ccb8c510808260921sdf9cdb4s665ae5cda8df3462@mail.gmail.com>
That's certainly been the case here in the northeast, for the last 2-3
years. NEAR-Fest IV is coming up in October, folks always remark about
how much good stuff shows up. It's become more about the people and
less about the stuff or big bucks. Most of us are just happy to pass
something on to a friend or find a good home for an old piece of gear.
No shipping involved!
~ Todd, KA1KAQ
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:52 AM, wrote:
> Maybe we will see a resurgence of the good old Ham swap meets.
> Jay KE6PPF
From quixote2 at ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 26 13:01:50 2008
From: quixote2 at ix.netcom.com (Ben Dover)
Date: Tue Aug 26 13:09:37 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
Message-ID: <3645980.1219770110486.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Yeah... I saw this one come out late last week.
The interesting part of it... they claim PayPal will make it easier and safer to deal?
Since Friday I've been trying to pay for a purchase through PayPal, and after NUMEROUS attempts
(as of this morning, 15 tries) the system is refusing to pay the seller!
So far I've got one PayPal person corresponding by E-mail, and spent a half hour with another
one on the phone... SHE was called to explain two mysterious $1.00 charges that appeared on
my account on Saturday!
She found no plausable reason for the problem... and begged off with "intermittent system
glitch that we're chasing down now. It should be resolved shortly".
That was on Sunday.
So far, on Tuesday, no resolution... and they want to force EVERYBODY to give up the option of
paying by other means, and deal with this "Charlie Foxtrot" of a computer system???
OMG...
Mr. T., W9LBB
-----Original Message-----
>From: J Forster
>Sent: Aug 25, 2008 10:45 PM
>To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net, hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com, GenRad@yahoogroups.com, AILtech@yahoogroups.com, armyradios@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
>
>http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/Payments/
>
>-John
>
>===============
>
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From revcom at wbsnet.org Tue Aug 26 13:51:33 2008
From: revcom at wbsnet.org (Revcom)
Date: Tue Aug 26 13:59:32 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
References: <3645980.1219770110486.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001101c907a4$60e79330$0901a8c0@autooutlet>
One can only say it is coming! We run a business and take a multitude of
credit cards, including PayPal. Local bank, and am sure others are doing
the same, is now issuing "traverler's cards". These are plastic traveler's
check devices that are 'preloaded' at the bank and processed just like any
credit card.
Now, big thing for us, we get "dinged" anywhere from 2.8-3.4 % on each
transaction, depending on the card issuer. Bank says it is a sign of the
times and they predict they will NOT process paper checks in 5 years or
less. Of course there will always be CASH transactions but they forsee no
paper drafts for payment being accepted by anyplace hardly. They prefer
ACH, automatic drafts, and everything electronic transfers. I don't like it
particularly in that if we have a lot of plastic transactions, it reduces
our take by about 3%, that is an automatic overhead you can't escape.
Thinking about not taking them, but banker says no.
The younger generation is all for this, have a daughter, 20+ generation, and
she does NOT carry cash nor a checkbook. And says that none of her friends
do either. Sigh! Long for $20 bills at swapfests!!
E Pay might be ahead of the curve on this. Of course they own PayPal,
financed by GE Money Bank. As the ad says, "Whats in your wallet?".
Rod
K0EQH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Dover"
To: "J Forster" ; ;
; ;
;
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
> Yeah... I saw this one come out late last week.
>
> The interesting part of it... they claim PayPal will make it easier and
> safer to deal?
>
> Since Friday I've been trying to pay for a purchase through PayPal, and
> after NUMEROUS attempts
> (as of this morning, 15 tries) the system is refusing to pay the seller!
>
> So far I've got one PayPal person corresponding by E-mail, and spent a
> half hour with another
> one on the phone... SHE was called to explain two mysterious $1.00
> charges that appeared on
> my account on Saturday!
>
> She found no plausable reason for the problem... and begged off with
> "intermittent system
> glitch that we're chasing down now. It should be resolved shortly".
>
> That was on Sunday.
>
> So far, on Tuesday, no resolution... and they want to force EVERYBODY to
> give up the option of
> paying by other means, and deal with this "Charlie Foxtrot" of a computer
> system???
>
> OMG...
>
>
>
> Mr. T., W9LBB
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: J Forster
>>Sent: Aug 25, 2008 10:45 PM
>>To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net, hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com,
>>GenRad@yahoogroups.com, AILtech@yahoogroups.com,
>>armyradios@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
>>
>>http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/Payments/
>>
>>-John
>>
>>===============
>>
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From nu4g.radio at gmail.com Tue Aug 26 15:42:20 2008
From: nu4g.radio at gmail.com (Tom Norris)
Date: Tue Aug 26 15:50:15 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
In-Reply-To: <8CAD5AADCDD3D5C-E20-5B3E@webmail-nf13.sim.aol.com>
References: <48B36E58.F4541022@quik.com>
<8CAD5AADCDD3D5C-E20-5B3E@webmail-nf13.sim.aol.com>
Message-ID:
Now THAT would be a Very Good Thing. ;-)
The PayPal requirement doesn't bother me per se, but the lack of
choice-of-payment-methods *DOES*!
Tom NU4G
On Aug 26, 2008, at 10:52 AM, jcoward5452@aol.com wrote:
>
> Maybe we will see a resurgence of the good old Ham swap meets.
> Jay KE6PPF
>
From jklotz77 at verizon.net Tue Aug 26 16:23:26 2008
From: jklotz77 at verizon.net (2ndjimmy)
Date: Tue Aug 26 16:31:24 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
References: <3645980.1219770110486.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
<001101c907a4$60e79330$0901a8c0@autooutlet>
Message-ID:
All...
My (40 year old) daughter saw me write a check at the grocery store the
other day.
She said, "Dad, only OLD people write checks!"
- Jim Klotz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Revcom"
To: "Ben Dover" ; "J Forster" ;
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
> One can only say it is coming! We run a business and take a multitude of
> credit cards, including PayPal. Local bank, and am sure others are doing
> the same, is now issuing "traverler's cards". These are plastic
> traveler's check devices that are 'preloaded' at the bank and processed
> just like any credit card.
>
> Now, big thing for us, we get "dinged" anywhere from 2.8-3.4 % on each
> transaction, depending on the card issuer. Bank says it is a sign of the
> times and they predict they will NOT process paper checks in 5 years or
> less. Of course there will always be CASH transactions but they forsee no
> paper drafts for payment being accepted by anyplace hardly. They prefer
> ACH, automatic drafts, and everything electronic transfers. I don't like
> it particularly in that if we have a lot of plastic transactions, it
> reduces our take by about 3%, that is an automatic overhead you can't
> escape. Thinking about not taking them, but banker says no.
>
> The younger generation is all for this, have a daughter, 20+ generation,
> and she does NOT carry cash nor a checkbook. And says that none of her
> friends do either. Sigh! Long for $20 bills at swapfests!!
>
> E Pay might be ahead of the curve on this. Of course they own PayPal,
> financed by GE Money Bank. As the ad says, "Whats in your wallet?".
>
> Rod
> K0EQH
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Dover"
> To: "J Forster" ; ;
> ; ;
> ;
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 12:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
>
>
>> Yeah... I saw this one come out late last week.
>>
>> The interesting part of it... they claim PayPal will make it easier and
>> safer to deal?
>>
>> Since Friday I've been trying to pay for a purchase through PayPal, and
>> after NUMEROUS attempts
>> (as of this morning, 15 tries) the system is refusing to pay the seller!
>>
>> So far I've got one PayPal person corresponding by E-mail, and spent a
>> half hour with another
>> one on the phone... SHE was called to explain two mysterious $1.00
>> charges that appeared on
>> my account on Saturday!
>>
>> She found no plausable reason for the problem... and begged off with
>> "intermittent system
>> glitch that we're chasing down now. It should be resolved shortly".
>>
>> That was on Sunday.
>>
>> So far, on Tuesday, no resolution... and they want to force EVERYBODY
>> to give up the option of
>> paying by other means, and deal with this "Charlie Foxtrot" of a computer
>> system???
>>
>> OMG...
>>
>>
>>
>> Mr. T., W9LBB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: J Forster
>>>Sent: Aug 25, 2008 10:45 PM
>>>To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net, hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com,
>>>GenRad@yahoogroups.com, AILtech@yahoogroups.com,
>>>armyradios@yahoogroups.com
>>>Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
>>>
>>>http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/Payments/
>>>
>>>-John
>>>
>>>===============
>>>
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>>
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From jfor at quik.com Tue Aug 26 16:31:36 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Tue Aug 26 16:37:51 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
References: <3645980.1219770110486.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
<001101c907a4$60e79330$0901a8c0@autooutlet>
Message-ID: <48B46828.F5FD7BD5@quik.com>
I'll be laughing when thoise addicted to plastic need a paper trail for some
reason. The computers are NOT always right. Been there.
FWIW,
-John
====================
2ndjimmy wrote:
> All...
>
> My (40 year old) daughter saw me write a check at the grocery store the
> other day.
>
> She said, "Dad, only OLD people write checks!"
>
> - Jim Klotz
From jfor at quik.com Tue Aug 26 16:37:19 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Tue Aug 26 16:43:30 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it.. MORE
References: <3645980.1219770110486.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
<001101c907a4$60e79330$0901a8c0@autooutlet>
Message-ID: <48B4697F.6A1E2D4@quik.com>
I had an issue with an idiot who swore under oath I'd not paid anything, and was
mighty red faced when I produced hard copy original canceled checks for over
$19,000 showing I'd not only PAID the guy, but he owed me over $9000.
He sputtered his computer was never wrong. Had I not the PROOF, I'd have gotten
badly defrauded.
BS,
-John
====================
2ndjimmy wrote:
> All...
>
> My (40 year old) daughter saw me write a check at the grocery store the
> other day.
>
> She said, "Dad, only OLD people write checks!"
>
> - Jim Klotz
From bsugarberg at core.com Tue Aug 26 17:53:27 2008
From: bsugarberg at core.com (BSugarberg)
Date: Tue Aug 26 17:01:22 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
In-Reply-To:
References: <3645980.1219770110486.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <001101c907a4$60e79330$0901a8c0@autooutlet>
Message-ID: <48B47B57.6070608@core.com>
Hello,
"does NOT carry cash...". While, I guess none of them:
Drive on a highway or bridge where you have to pay a toll.
Park in a parking lot or garage where you have to pay.
Use a parking meter.
Buy anything from a vending machine.
Buy anything at a garage sale, flea market, rummage sale.
Etc.
73, Bruce WA8TNC
==============================
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Revcom"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
>
>>
>> The younger generation is all for this, have a daughter, 20+
>> generation, and she does NOT carry cash nor a checkbook. And says
>> that none of her friends do either. Sigh! Long for $20 bills at
>> swapfests!!
>>
>> Rod
>> K0EQH
From murphy at cts.com Tue Aug 26 17:00:17 2008
From: murphy at cts.com (mike murphy)
Date: Tue Aug 26 17:08:11 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Re: Milsurplus Digest, Vol 52, Issue 29
In-Reply-To: <20080826210140.9C016859C26@mailman.qth.net>
References: <20080826210140.9C016859C26@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID:
> and they want to force EVERYBODY to give up the option of
paying by other means,
I bet the gov is all for using tracable transactions, and doing away
with cash.
wonder what the corner durg dealers will do ( probably get by as long
as they pay their taxes)\\
Mike
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From gzook at yahoo.com Tue Aug 26 17:04:07 2008
From: gzook at yahoo.com (Glen Zook)
Date: Tue Aug 26 17:11:56 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
In-Reply-To: <48B47B57.6070608@core.com>
Message-ID: <688041.83352.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Many vending machines in this area (Dallas, Texas) now accept credit and debit cards!
The toll roads in this area are doing away with toll booths. You either have a "toll tag" (device that goes in your window that automatically records the toll) or they send you a bill (the system takes a photo of your license plate for this). On those roads which still have toll booths if you have a "toll tag" you get a substantial reduction in fees. For example, if the fee is $1.00 those with "toll tags" get charged $0.70.
My "toll tag" will work anywhere in the State of Texas.
Glen, K9STH
Website: http://k9sth.com
--- On Tue, 8/26/08, BSugarberg wrote:
From: BSugarberg
"does NOT carry cash...". While, I guess none of them:
Drive on a highway or bridge where you have to pay a toll.
Park in a parking lot or garage where you have to pay.
Use a parking meter.
Buy anything from a vending machine.
Buy anything at a garage sale, flea market, rummage sale.
Etc.
From revcom at wbsnet.org Tue Aug 26 17:18:26 2008
From: revcom at wbsnet.org (Revcom)
Date: Tue Aug 26 17:26:28 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
References: <688041.83352.qm@web52909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601c907c1$47f6d0d0$0901a8c0@autooutlet>
Glen,
Beat me to it. Yes, where daughter lives, toll booths take debit/credit
cards, vending machines (college town) accept them and they have -cash
cards- sold at the University. Turnpike uses a "pass card" magnetic
hanging from rearview mirror and you just drive right on through. Even
Wendy's, McDonalds, and a plethora of eating places have card terminals
where she lives.
I know it is a pain when they accompany us on flea market treks and farmers
markets, Dad has to fork over the CASH as they
don't carry any, hi. She said "cuts down on junk we buy".
Not sure this is all good. All this technology, somebody has to pay for it.
(seems to be me!)
Rod
K0EQH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Zook"
To: ; "BSugarberg"
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
> Many vending machines in this area (Dallas, Texas) now accept credit and
> debit cards!
>
> The toll roads in this area are doing away with toll booths. You either
> have a "toll tag" (device that goes in your window that automatically
> records the toll) or they send you a bill (the system takes a photo of
> your license plate for this). On those roads which still have toll booths
> if you have a "toll tag" you get a substantial reduction in fees. For
> example, if the fee is $1.00 those with "toll tags" get charged $0.70.
>
> My "toll tag" will work anywhere in the State of Texas.
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
> Website: http://k9sth.com
>
>
> --- On Tue, 8/26/08, BSugarberg wrote:
>
> From: BSugarberg
>
> "does NOT carry cash...". While, I guess none of them:
>
> Drive on a highway or bridge where you have to pay a toll.
> Park in a parking lot or garage where you have to pay.
> Use a parking meter.
> Buy anything from a vending machine.
> Buy anything at a garage sale, flea market, rummage sale.
> Etc.
>
>
>
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From YoungFamily at glwb.net Tue Aug 26 17:24:35 2008
From: YoungFamily at glwb.net (James Young)
Date: Tue Aug 26 17:32:24 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] WTB R-105A/ARR-15A
Message-ID:
Hello to the MilSurplus group!
I'd like to purchase an R-105A/ARR-15A.
It preferably should be complete, unmolested and in operable condition.
Please respond off-list; pictures a plus.
Thanks and 73's
Jim Young
From ramcam at magma.ca Tue Aug 26 17:25:41 2008
From: ramcam at magma.ca (Ralph Cameron)
Date: Tue Aug 26 17:33:38 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Nuts to eBay
Message-ID: <5F6817D6FD114D088030554A652CBFE7@CAMERON>
I just received a 20 pound sterling note from Ben Nock for a transaction and will keep it as a souvenir. Nothing beats coin of the realm. And you all know you can go into a grocery store , pay for the grub and come out way ahead by debiting the account.
I always said some day we'd have an IEEE 488 connector on the back of our head.
Cheers
Ralph
VE3BBM
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From wrcromwell at gmail.com Tue Aug 26 17:24:32 2008
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (Bill Cromwell)
Date: Tue Aug 26 17:36:46 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
Message-ID: <1219785873.16978.37.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Hi Everybody,
This thread is partly on topic so here goes...
I already got frustrated with the Bay. First I stopped listing things
for sale there. Now I have stopped buying things there. I have shifted
my focus to craigslist, local garage sales and flea markets, and of
course, mail lists like this one. The market exposure isn't as good as
the Bay. Oh well. There are fewer hassles and fewer scammers. I wish I
could say NO scammers. I have even offered some stuff for free but when
I ask the recipient to make arrangements to pay for shipping it to
them...nothing happens. End of story. Kinda disappointing. I thought
items like power supply iron were hard to get. But free for shipping
costs seems too expensive? We all know how much USPS Flat Rate boxes
cost...just not that much.
But I will keep looking on the mail lists and posting some things on the
lists, too. I'm moving and I'd rather sell (cheaply) to somebody who can
use the stuff than to send it along to the landfill.
milsurplus connection... some of the things I have bid on and some of
the things I will be offering are military surplus.
73,
Bill KU8H
From WA5CAB at cs.com Tue Aug 26 18:02:26 2008
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB@cs.com)
Date: Tue Aug 26 18:10:27 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Nuts to eBay
Message-ID:
No, the jack will be on the side of the head under the ear, so you can plug
yourself in. :-)
In a message dated 8/26/2008 4:26:29 PM Central Daylight Time,
ramcam@magma.ca writes:
> I just received a 20 pound sterling note from Ben Nock for a transaction
> and will keep it as a souvenir. Nothing beats coin of the realm. And you all
> know you can go into a grocery store , pay for the grub and come out way ahead
> by debiting the account.
>
> I always said some day we'd have an IEEE 488 connector on the back of our
> head.
>
> Cheers
>
>
Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480
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From: ron.k3pid at sbcglobal.net (Ron.K3PID)
Date: Tue Aug 26 18:32:31 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Nuts to eBay
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K3PID
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From kim.herron at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 26 19:51:16 2008
From: kim.herron at sbcglobal.net (kim.herron@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue Aug 26 19:59:05 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
References: <3645980.1219770110486.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
<001101c907a4$60e79330$0901a8c0@autooutlet>
Message-ID: <005801c907d6$a1b836d0$02b9eb4c@HPa550y>
Hi Rod!!
Ditto on the credit card transactions. I cancelled my merchants
credit card service when I sold my mobile tool service. But since my
wife's pet grooming salon is now at the house and is all but set up to
go here, we're in process of restoring the credit card service. You're
right on the transaction fee, so the prices reflect it. I predict that
Wal-Mart/Sam's are going to get a FLOOD of people signing up for their
card service, just to deal with E-Bay's/Paypal's Bovine Manure. I will
say this about the credit card service. IF a buyer has any doubts about
a person doing business (at least here in MI) with you, the business
checking account and the VISA/MasterCard warrantee that's attached to
the service usually gets me past the questions. I WOULD MUCH rather
deal with VISA, MasterCard, or American Express on a disputed purchase,
than E-Bay. Paypal shoots first and doesn't bother to ask any
questions, or return your money without loads of the above-mentioned
brown fecal matter. VISA, MasterCard, AMEX and Discover can't tie up my
whole checking account and Paypal somehow can manage to do just that.
Kim Herron W8ZV
Golden Radio Service
Kenowa Tool Service.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Revcom"
To: "Ben Dover" ; "J Forster" ;
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
> One can only say it is coming! We run a business and take a multitude
> of credit cards, including PayPal. Local bank, and am sure others are
> doing the same, is now issuing "traverler's cards". These are plastic
> traveler's check devices that are 'preloaded' at the bank and
> processed just like any credit card.
>
> Now, big thing for us, we get "dinged" anywhere from 2.8-3.4 % on each
> transaction, depending on the card issuer. Bank says it is a sign of
> the times and they predict they will NOT process paper checks in 5
> years or less. Of course there will always be CASH transactions but
> they forsee no paper drafts for payment being accepted by anyplace
> hardly. They prefer ACH, automatic drafts, and everything electronic
> transfers. I don't like it particularly in that if we have a lot of
> plastic transactions, it reduces our take by about 3%, that is an
> automatic overhead you can't escape. Thinking about not taking them,
> but banker says no.
>
> The younger generation is all for this, have a daughter, 20+
> generation, and she does NOT carry cash nor a checkbook. And says
> that none of her friends do either. Sigh! Long for $20 bills at
> swapfests!!
>
> E Pay might be ahead of the curve on this. Of course they own PayPal,
> financed by GE Money Bank. As the ad says, "Whats in your wallet?".
>
> Rod
> K0EQH
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Dover"
> To: "J Forster" ; ;
> ; ;
> ;
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 12:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
>
>
>> Yeah... I saw this one come out late last week.
>>
>> The interesting part of it... they claim PayPal will make it easier
>> and safer to deal?
>>
>> Since Friday I've been trying to pay for a purchase through PayPal,
>> and after NUMEROUS attempts
>> (as of this morning, 15 tries) the system is refusing to pay the
>> seller!
>>
>> So far I've got one PayPal person corresponding by E-mail, and spent
>> a half hour with another
>> one on the phone... SHE was called to explain two mysterious $1.00
>> charges that appeared on
>> my account on Saturday!
>>
>> She found no plausable reason for the problem... and begged off
>> with "intermittent system
>> glitch that we're chasing down now. It should be resolved shortly".
>>
>> That was on Sunday.
>>
>> So far, on Tuesday, no resolution... and they want to force
>> EVERYBODY to give up the option of
>> paying by other means, and deal with this "Charlie Foxtrot" of a
>> computer system???
>>
>> OMG...
>>
>>
>>
>> Mr. T., W9LBB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: J Forster
>>>Sent: Aug 25, 2008 10:45 PM
>>>To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net, hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com,
>>>GenRad@yahoogroups.com, AILtech@yahoogroups.com,
>>>armyradios@yahoogroups.com
>>>Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
>>>
>>>http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/Payments/
>>>
>>>-John
>>>
>>>===============
>>>
>>>______________________________________________________________
>>>Milsurplus mailing list
>>>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/milsurplus
>>>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>Post: mailto:Milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Milsurplus mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/milsurplus
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:Milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
>
> ______________________________________________________________
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> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/milsurplus
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> Post: mailto:Milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
From ewinde at sc.rr.com Tue Aug 26 20:45:27 2008
From: ewinde at sc.rr.com (Eric Winder)
Date: Tue Aug 26 20:53:19 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Nuts to eBay
Message-ID:
Maybe its there aleady...
Think about the "Matrix"... ;-)
Eric
WB4QOV
Message: 8
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:24:42 -0500
From: "Ron.K3PID"
More than likely it will be an RJ45 connector Ralph with a 100 GB transfer
rate!!! Hi Hi
K3PID
Ron H
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From boatguy at hughes.net Tue Aug 26 20:51:47 2008
From: boatguy at hughes.net (Carl@hughes.net)
Date: Tue Aug 26 20:59:59 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
References: <3645980.1219770110486.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net><001101c907a4$60e79330$0901a8c0@autooutlet>
<005801c907d6$a1b836d0$02b9eb4c@HPa550y>
Message-ID: <012101c907df$2024bdb0$6601a8c0@pavilion>
Well its time to tell my story about Pay Pal I so;d a Collins KWM 2 A last
August about this time shipped very fast (next day) had it pro packed at UPS
Store it arrived 2 days later.In Oct last fall I get a notice that the buyer
stopped payment on Pay Pal tru his credit card.I faught it to no availe.They
tied up my pay pal account and in Jan of this year I got my Radio and power
supply back total out of pocket cost to me was a shade over 300.00 and I had
to contact police in this guys home town .Guess what he is a lawyer.PAY PAL
SUCKS
Whats this wal mart thing
Carl
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: "Revcom" ; "Ben Dover" ; "J
Forster" ;
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
> Hi Rod!!
>
> Ditto on the credit card transactions. I cancelled my merchants credit
> card service when I sold my mobile tool service. But since my wife's pet
> grooming salon is now at the house and is all but set up to go here, we're
> in process of restoring the credit card service. You're right on the
> transaction fee, so the prices reflect it. I predict that Wal-Mart/Sam's
> are going to get a FLOOD of people signing up for their card service, just
> to deal with E-Bay's/Paypal's Bovine Manure. I will say this about the
> credit card service. IF a buyer has any doubts about a person doing
> business (at least here in MI) with you, the business checking account and
> the VISA/MasterCard warrantee that's attached to the service usually gets
> me past the questions. I WOULD MUCH rather deal with VISA, MasterCard, or
> American Express on a disputed purchase, than E-Bay. Paypal shoots first
> and doesn't bother to ask any questions, or return your money without
> loads of the above-mentioned brown fecal matter. VISA, MasterCard, AMEX
> and Discover can't tie up my whole checking account and Paypal somehow can
> manage to do just that.
>
> Kim Herron W8ZV
> Golden Radio Service
> Kenowa Tool Service.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Revcom"
> To: "Ben Dover" ; "J Forster" ;
>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
>
>
>> One can only say it is coming! We run a business and take a multitude of
>> credit cards, including PayPal. Local bank, and am sure others are doing
>> the same, is now issuing "traverler's cards". These are plastic
>> traveler's check devices that are 'preloaded' at the bank and processed
>> just like any credit card.
>>
>> Now, big thing for us, we get "dinged" anywhere from 2.8-3.4 % on each
>> transaction, depending on the card issuer. Bank says it is a sign of the
>> times and they predict they will NOT process paper checks in 5 years or
>> less. Of course there will always be CASH transactions but they forsee
>> no paper drafts for payment being accepted by anyplace hardly. They
>> prefer ACH, automatic drafts, and everything electronic transfers. I
>> don't like it particularly in that if we have a lot of plastic
>> transactions, it reduces our take by about 3%, that is an automatic
>> overhead you can't escape. Thinking about not taking them, but banker
>> says no.
>>
>> The younger generation is all for this, have a daughter, 20+ generation,
>> and she does NOT carry cash nor a checkbook. And says that none of her
>> friends do either. Sigh! Long for $20 bills at swapfests!!
>>
>> E Pay might be ahead of the curve on this. Of course they own PayPal,
>> financed by GE Money Bank. As the ad says, "Whats in your wallet?".
>>
>> Rod
>> K0EQH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ben Dover"
>> To: "J Forster" ; ;
>> ; ;
>> ;
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 12:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
>>
>>
>>> Yeah... I saw this one come out late last week.
>>>
>>> The interesting part of it... they claim PayPal will make it easier and
>>> safer to deal?
>>>
>>> Since Friday I've been trying to pay for a purchase through PayPal, and
>>> after NUMEROUS attempts
>>> (as of this morning, 15 tries) the system is refusing to pay the seller!
>>>
>>> So far I've got one PayPal person corresponding by E-mail, and spent a
>>> half hour with another
>>> one on the phone... SHE was called to explain two mysterious $1.00
>>> charges that appeared on
>>> my account on Saturday!
>>>
>>> She found no plausable reason for the problem... and begged off with
>>> "intermittent system
>>> glitch that we're chasing down now. It should be resolved shortly".
>>>
>>> That was on Sunday.
>>>
>>> So far, on Tuesday, no resolution... and they want to force EVERYBODY
>>> to give up the option of
>>> paying by other means, and deal with this "Charlie Foxtrot" of a
>>> computer system???
>>>
>>> OMG...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mr. T., W9LBB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: J Forster
>>>>Sent: Aug 25, 2008 10:45 PM
>>>>To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net, hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com,
>>>>GenRad@yahoogroups.com, AILtech@yahoogroups.com,
>>>>armyradios@yahoogroups.com
>>>>Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
>>>>
>>>>http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/Payments/
>>>>
>>>>-John
>>>>
>>>>===============
>>>>
>>>>______________________________________________________________
>>>>Milsurplus mailing list
>>>>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/milsurplus
>>>>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>>Post: mailto:Milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/milsurplus
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>>> Post: mailto:Milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
>>
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>
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From jupete at bigpond.net.au Wed Aug 27 14:23:27 2008
From: jupete at bigpond.net.au (Pete Williams)
Date: Tue Aug 26 21:33:24 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] FOR SALE
Message-ID: <2B1992769553457FA9CF28E756C9BB5E@redooffice>
G'day... g'teed Ebay free.
1.Collection of front panel knobs for the AN/ARC-2 plus the dial mask
assembly.. not included are the 2 crank knobs all in exclnt condx. $35
2. PTO Collins 70-H12 for the R-390A rx. End points adjusted.$85.
AIRMAIL Postage included.- In all the above .
Cheers
Pete VK3IZ
jupete@bigpond.net.au
From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com Tue Aug 26 21:46:19 2008
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Tue Aug 26 21:53:30 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
In-Reply-To: <1219785873.16978.37.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1219785873.16978.37.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <48B4B1EB.1020100@austin.rr.com>
All -
As one person on this list duly noted; when I complained about
GOVL......ATION placing a $150.00 minimum bid on any lot,
get on board with it, or opt out, or do some thing about it.
I googled "petition ebay" found these 2 sites;
http://www.petitiononline.com/ebayau/petition.html 13,815 Total Signatures!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/ebay-buyers-concerned-re-feedback-changes
only 2,803 signatures
Who starts the petition?
Just off the wire, Auction News : Band of eBay Sellers Petition Google
to Open Auction Site
Later
Hutch
Bill Cromwell wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
>
> This thread is partly on topic so here goes...
>
> I already got frustrated with the Bay. First I stopped listing things
> for sale there. Now I have stopped buying things there. I have shifted
> my focus to craigslist, local garage sales and flea markets, and of
> course, mail lists like this one. The market exposure isn't as good as
> the Bay. Oh well. There are fewer hassles and fewer scammers. I wish I
> could say NO scammers. I have even offered some stuff for free but when
> I ask the recipient to make arrangements to pay for shipping it to
> them...nothing happens. End of story. Kinda disappointing. I thought
> items like power supply iron were hard to get. But free for shipping
> costs seems too expensive? We all know how much USPS Flat Rate boxes
> cost...just not that much.
>
> But I will keep looking on the mail lists and posting some things on the
> lists, too. I'm moving and I'd rather sell (cheaply) to somebody who can
> use the stuff than to send it along to the landfill.
>
> milsurplus connection... some of the things I have bid on and some of
> the things I will be offering are military surplus.
>
> 73,
>
> Bill KU8H
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> Milsurplus mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/milsurplus
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
> Post: mailto:Milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
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From jfor at quik.com Tue Aug 26 22:19:58 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Tue Aug 26 22:25:56 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Nuts to eBay
References:
Message-ID: <48B4B9CD.B75CAEA1@quik.com>
Anyone remember "The President's Analyst" with James Colburn. Think of the
last scene with all the TPC employees with phone jacks to their heels.
Problem is, this eBay crap hurts people.
FWIW,
-John
===============
Eric Winder wrote:
> Maybe its there aleady...
>
> Think about the "Matrix"... ;-)
>
> Eric
> WB4QOV
From jfor at quik.com Tue Aug 26 22:23:58 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Tue Aug 26 22:29:58 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
References: <1219785873.16978.37.camel@localhost.localdomain>
<48B4B1EB.1020100@austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <48B4BABE.8CEBE2AA@quik.com>
Good moves.
Maybe there is an angle to attack this via either the credit card companies, or the federal
banking regulators. Trouble is, Cong. Barney Frank (D, MA) is busy with elections.... but
maybe that's not a bad time to contact him.
Best,
-John
====================
John Hutchins wrote:
> All -
> As one person on this list duly noted; when I complained about
> GOVL......ATION placing a $150.00 minimum bid on any lot,
> get on board with it, or opt out, or do some thing about it.
>
> I googled "petition ebay" found these 2 sites;
> http://www.petitiononline.com/ebayau/petition.html 13,815 Total Signatures!
> http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/ebay-buyers-concerned-re-feedback-changes
> only 2,803 signatures
>
> Who starts the petition?
>
> Just off the wire, Auction News : Band of eBay Sellers Petition Google
> to Open Auction Site
>
> Later
> Hutch
>
> Bill Cromwell wrote:
> > Hi Everybody,
> >
> > This thread is partly on topic so here goes...
> >
> > I already got frustrated with the Bay. First I stopped listing things
> > for sale there. Now I have stopped buying things there. I have shifted
> > my focus to craigslist, local garage sales and flea markets, and of
> > course, mail lists like this one. The market exposure isn't as good as
> > the Bay. Oh well. There are fewer hassles and fewer scammers. I wish I
> > could say NO scammers. I have even offered some stuff for free but when
> > I ask the recipient to make arrangements to pay for shipping it to
> > them...nothing happens. End of story. Kinda disappointing. I thought
> > items like power supply iron were hard to get. But free for shipping
> > costs seems too expensive? We all know how much USPS Flat Rate boxes
> > cost...just not that much.
> >
> > But I will keep looking on the mail lists and posting some things on the
> > lists, too. I'm moving and I'd rather sell (cheaply) to somebody who can
> > use the stuff than to send it along to the landfill.
> >
> > milsurplus connection... some of the things I have bid on and some of
> > the things I will be offering are military surplus.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Bill KU8H
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
> > Milsurplus mailing list
> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/milsurplus
> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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From jmccarty at alcatel-lucent.com Wed Aug 27 00:11:28 2008
From: jmccarty at alcatel-lucent.com (John J Mccarty)
Date: Wed Aug 27 00:19:24 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Nuts to eBay
References:
Message-ID: <48B4D3F0.2090004@lucent.com>
I always thought it was supposed to be a jack for a 310 cord that the phone
company put in the back of the heal of your shoe.......
On 8/26/2008 7:45 PM, Eric Winder wrote:
> Maybe its there aleady...
>
> Think about the "Matrix"... ;-)
>
> Eric
> WB4QOV
>
>
>
>
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:24:42 -0500
> From: "Ron.K3PID"
>
>
> More than likely it will be an RJ45 connector Ralph with a 100 GB transfer
> rate!!! Hi Hi
>
> K3PID
> Ron H
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From mcenfalz at humboldt1.com Wed Aug 27 00:52:32 2008
From: mcenfalz at humboldt1.com (Laura and Jim)
Date: Wed Aug 27 01:00:33 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
Message-ID: <7165A50A4E4E4A0B8A066271A00C4155@HomePC>
Bruce WA8TNC said:
""does NOT carry cash...". While, I guess none of them:
Drive on a highway or bridge where you have to pay a toll.
Park in a parking lot or garage where you have to pay.
Use a parking meter.
Buy anything from a vending machine.
Buy anything at a garage sale, flea market, rummage sale.
Etc."
I was in downtown Seattle recently and they have parking meters that take ATM cards.
Was it Bennie Maupin, a jazz sax player that had a song: "Watch your money go"?
Cheers!
Jim Falls
KG6FWT
Eureka, CA
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From WA5CAB at cs.com Wed Aug 27 01:36:05 2008
From: WA5CAB at cs.com (WA5CAB@cs.com)
Date: Wed Aug 27 01:43:58 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
Message-ID:
Personally, I can't get too choked up about this. We've always accepted
checks and money orders (and for that matter currency after a few back and forths
telling the prospective buyer that if the payment never arrived they would
play Hell trying to blame us for it). And I personally hate encountering a
seller who won't take some form of electronic payment. Writing a check, addressing
an envelope and mailing it all take time which is in chronically short supply
here. And it would have to be a damned rare part that I had been looking for
years to locate before I would spend an hour and a half driving to the PO to
buy an MO to pay for. So basically I only object to eBay doing this because
some of Susie's customers aren't too smart and haven't been able to maintain a
secure PayPal or credit card account.
But realistically, if we get six MO's a month it's a bumper crop. And
invariably, thanks to the poor reliability of First Class Mail these days (which
should be renamed as Last Class Mail), at least one will take two weeks to
arrive. So we waste a lot of time asking the buyer whether they've actually sent
payment. And waiting for a response which we seldom get thanks to virulent spam
blockers. Which is another subject entirely.
In a message dated 8/26/2008 11:52:56 PM Central Daylight Time,
mcenfalz@humboldt1.com writes:
> Bruce WA8TNC said:
>
> ""does NOT carry cash...". While, I guess none of them:
>
> Drive on a highway or bridge where you have to pay a toll.
> Park in a parking lot or garage where you have to pay.
> Use a parking meter.
> Buy anything from a vending machine.
> Buy anything at a garage sale, flea market, rummage sale.
> Etc."
>
> I was in downtown Seattle recently and they have parking meters that take
> ATM cards.
>
> Was it Bennie Maupin, a jazz sax player that had a song: "Watch your money
> go"?
>
>
>
Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480
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From wh7hg.hi at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 09:07:43 2008
From: wh7hg.hi at gmail.com (Michael Tauson)
Date: Wed Aug 27 09:15:39 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
In-Reply-To: <8CAD5AADCDD3D5C-E20-5B3E@webmail-nf13.sim.aol.com>
References: <48B36E58.F4541022@quik.com>
<8CAD5AADCDD3D5C-E20-5B3E@webmail-nf13.sim.aol.com>
Message-ID:
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:52 AM, wrote:
> Maybe we will see a resurgence of the good old Ham swap meets.
Here in Hawaii, we have one or two major ones each year, one each on
Oahu and the Big Island. "Major" is something like your basic yard
sale, not like the fests on the mainland. As a result, I have to
depend on people on the lists and *shudder* eBay for what I need/want.
For eBay, while I use PP, I prefer having my bank cut a check just
like I do for folks I've bought from here - not for the paper trail
but for trust issues. Losing that option makes things like Craiglist
that much more inviting.
An ideal situation for me would be to have someone who does go to the
hamfests have available cash from a fund set up for the purpose of
picking up things for me while [s]he's wandering around. But here
again are problems, some obvious and some not so obvious. One of
those problems - a major one, in fact - is *who*. The rest trickle
down from there.
I guess I should post a needs & wants list somewhere. The needs for
the displays is on my A.R.C. blog but it's incomplete and I need to
update it a bit. Wants will go to the other blog when I remember to
put it up.
Anyway, now that I've muddied the waters some, I'll go back to sorting
tools and watch parts.
Best regards,
Michael, WH7HG
From jfor at quik.com Wed Aug 27 09:21:04 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Wed Aug 27 09:27:20 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
References:
Message-ID: <48B554C0.12725043@quik.com>
I disagree w/ you on this one. If you really add up all the time it
takes to reconcile electronic transactions and look for fraudulent
billings and such, it takes FAR more time. With MOs and cash, you do the
checking when you have everything right in front of you. There is no
having to go back and trying to figure out what really happened. Also,
if someone screws up, it can be fixed then and there, or you can walk
away, before the problem propagates.
As to time, I go to the PO to pick up my mail anyway, having had far too
much of it stolen over the years. It's a small PO and it takes less than
a minute to get a MO. If I need to cash one, I get my $$$ right then and
there.
I am not concerned about latency in transactions, because if I have to
wait even a couple of weeks for something, it's no big deal. I may well
have already waited ten years or more. So what's the big deal? I can
play with my new toy in two weeks just as well as tomorrow.
FWIW,
-John
=======================
WA5CAB@cs.com wrote:
> Personally, I can't get too choked up about this. We've always
> accepted checks and money orders (and for that matter currency after a
> few back and forths telling the prospective buyer that if the payment
> never arrived they would play Hell trying to blame us for it). And I
> personally hate encountering a seller who won't take some form of
> electronic payment. Writing a check, addressing an envelope and
> mailing it all take time which is in chronically short supply here.
> And it would have to be a damned rare part that I had been looking for
> years to locate before I would spend an hour and a half driving to the
> PO to buy an MO to pay for. So basically I only object to eBay doing
> this because some of Susie's customers aren't too smart and haven't
> been able to maintain a secure PayPal or credit card account.
>
> But realistically, if we get six MO's a month it's a bumper crop. And
> invariably, thanks to the poor reliability of First Class Mail these
> days (which should be renamed as Last Class Mail), at least one will
> take two weeks to arrive. So we waste a lot of time asking the buyer
> whether they've actually sent payment. And waiting for a response
> which we seldom get thanks to virulent spam blockers. Which is
> another subject entirely.
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From nick at 3rdtech.com Wed Aug 27 11:44:57 2008
From: nick at 3rdtech.com (Nick England)
Date: Wed Aug 27 11:58:33 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Shelby NC hamfest this weekend
Message-ID: <004301c9085b$dc263f30$fd0212ac@Heathkit2>
A whole bunch of us Boatanchor types will be flea-marketeering at the Dallas
NC (formerly Shelby) hamfest this weekend. We'll be set up with a yellow
"BOATANCHORS!" banner near the spot marked B on this aerial photo (entrance
to the fest is off the top of the photo).
http://www.virhistory.com/ham/photos/dallas-31.JPG
Hope to see you there!
Nick KD4CPL
lookin' for 50's-60's Navy communications gear
www.virhistory.com/navy
From N1UDI at att.net Wed Aug 27 13:05:59 2008
From: N1UDI at att.net (N1UDI@att.net)
Date: Wed Aug 27 13:13:57 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] F.S. BC-603-D radios
Message-ID: <082720081705.21160.48B58977000B89E4000052A822218801869B0A02D29B9B0EBFB7BBAACEB2@att.net>
I have a pair of BC-603-D tanks radios. They have no dynomotors.
Asking $50 for the pair + shipping or p/u in Connecticut, there a little on the heavy side.
Rock
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From jfor at quik.com Wed Aug 27 13:22:13 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Wed Aug 27 13:28:20 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
References: <1219785873.16978.37.camel@localhost.localdomain>
<48B4B1EB.1020100@austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <48B58D45.8E609FA5@quik.com>
John Hutchins wrote:
> All -
> [snip]
>
> I googled "petition ebay" found these 2 sites;
> http://www.petitiononline.com/ebayau/petition.html 13,815 Total Signatures! [snip]
This is the eBay Australia petition. AFAIK eBay totally ignored it.
The remaining two are about feedback policies, which are not at issue here.
Thanks,
-John
===================
From kb1fqg at yahoo.com Wed Aug 27 15:04:50 2008
From: kb1fqg at yahoo.com (John Flood)
Date: Wed Aug 27 15:12:45 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
Message-ID: <139354.43543.qm@web84101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
IIRC Didn't the Australian Gov. put the quash on this down there?? Good to see some of you guys at the Boxboro MA flea and convention.
John Flood
KB1FQG
PS?
----- Original Message ----
From: J Forster
To: John Hutchins ; milsurplus@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:22:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
John Hutchins wrote:
> All -
> [snip]
>
> I googled "petition ebay"? found these 2 sites;
> http://www.petitiononline.com/ebayau/petition.html 13,815 Total Signatures!? [snip]
This is the eBay Australia petition. AFAIK eBay totally ignored it.
The remaining two are about feedback policies, which are not at issue here.
Thanks,
-John
===================
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From Military1944 at aol.com Wed Aug 27 15:24:40 2008
From: Military1944 at aol.com (Military1944@aol.com)
Date: Wed Aug 27 15:32:40 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Crypto listing
Message-ID:
Here's one for the crypto experts;
listing (you know where) states:
THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF PLASTIC MISSING OF THE BANDS SWITCH EASILY
REPLACEABLE
So, I ask just what is missing. I get back:
Hi the bit is missing on the actual bandswitch knob,,where you it makes it
easeir to turn the switch as i said they are easy to replace and it does not
effect the radio because the switch still work very well.
So, anyone care to guess what's missing? I have no idea.
answers on a postcard to The Minister for Education, c/o 10 Downing St.
Ben.
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From kargo_cult at msn.com Wed Aug 27 15:32:54 2008
From: kargo_cult at msn.com (Hue Miller)
Date: Wed Aug 27 15:41:00 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Crypto listing
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Sounds like only part of the knob is broken off, leaving bandswitching to
be accomplished by application of the Armstrong method.
Good thing seller didn't write the instruction manual, anyway. -Hue K7HUE
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From mikea at mikea.ath.cx Wed Aug 27 15:36:42 2008
From: mikea at mikea.ath.cx (Mike Andrews W5EGO)
Date: Wed Aug 27 15:44:43 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Crypto listing
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20080827193642.GA60740@mikea.ath.cx>
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 03:24:40PM -0400, Military1944@aol.com wrote:
> Here's one for the crypto experts;
>
> listing (you know where) states:
>
> THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF PLASTIC MISSING OF THE BANDS SWITCH EASILY
> REPLACEABLE
>
> So, I ask just what is missing. I get back:
>
> Hi the bit is missing on the actual bandswitch knob,,where you it makes it
> easeir to turn the switch as i said they are easy to replace and it does not
> effect the radio because the switch still work very well.
>
> So, anyone care to guess what's missing? I have no idea.
>
> answers on a postcard to The Minister for Education, c/o 10 Downing St.
What's missing? Literacy. *sigh*
All of a piece with what my wife W5DNA, a teacher, sees from the
students and their parents most every day.
Is that for a No. 19 Wireless? I've a friend in the UK who has been
looking for some bits. I'll tip him off. TU & 73, de
--
Mike Andrews, W5EGO
mikea@mikea.ath.cx
Tired old sysadmin
From n7rk at cox.net Wed Aug 27 16:03:47 2008
From: n7rk at cox.net (David Hollander)
Date: Wed Aug 27 16:11:42 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
In-Reply-To: <139354.43543.qm@web84101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <139354.43543.qm@web84101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48B5B323.1090307@cox.net>
Ebay did lose this one in VK last month.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23856406-5014108,00.html
This is some additional info
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSSYD30965320080820
73,
Dave N7RK
--
***********************************************************
Dave N7RK Boatanchors Home Page: http://members.cox.net/n7rk
Phoenix, Arizona *DXCC Honor Roll* *WAZ#22 - 75 Meter SSB*
ex-XE2/N7RK, N7RK/ZB2, VK2ERK, ZM0AJN, WB6NRK, WN6IWX
Boatanchor and Antique Radio Collector
From jfor at quik.com Wed Aug 27 16:15:54 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Wed Aug 27 16:21:56 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Crypto listing
References:
<20080827193642.GA60740@mikea.ath.cx>
Message-ID: <48B5B5FA.B20E0701@quik.com>
The word is CRYPTIC not crypto. Two ENTIRELY different animules.
BTW, what's the item number?
Best,
John
======================
Mike Andrews W5EGO wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 03:24:40PM -0400, Military1944@aol.com wrote:
> > Here's one for the crypto experts;
> >
> > listing (you know where) states:
> >
> > THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF PLASTIC MISSING OF THE BANDS SWITCH EASILY
> > REPLACEABLE
> >
> > So, I ask just what is missing. I get back:
> >
> > Hi the bit is missing on the actual bandswitch knob,,where you it makes it
> > easeir to turn the switch as i said they are easy to replace and it does not
> > effect the radio because the switch still work very well.
> >
> > So, anyone care to guess what's missing? I have no idea.
> >
> > answers on a postcard to The Minister for Education, c/o 10 Downing St.
>
> What's missing? Literacy. *sigh*
>
> All of a piece with what my wife W5DNA, a teacher, sees from the
> students and their parents most every day.
>
> Is that for a No. 19 Wireless? I've a friend in the UK who has been
> looking for some bits. I'll tip him off. TU & 73, de
>
> --
> Mike Andrews, W5EGO
> mikea@mikea.ath.cx
> Tired old sysadmin
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From nick at 3rdtech.com Wed Aug 27 17:55:56 2008
From: nick at 3rdtech.com (Nick England)
Date: Wed Aug 27 18:04:11 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Barry #104 shock mounts needed
Message-ID: <01ee01c9088f$af3b1480$fd0212ac@Heathkit2>
In case you come across these in your junk box -
I need a couple of old Barry type 104 conical shock mounts
Two hole mount (spaced about 2"), and 1.5" tall rubber cone. 1/4-20
equipment bolt.
photos at
http://www.virhistory.com/ham/frr24/rest7/barry-01.JPG
http://www.virhistory.com/ham/frr24/rest7/barry-02.JPG
These hold the fan assembly in my FRR-24 receiver racks.
thanks,
Nick
www.virhistory.com/navy
From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com Wed Aug 27 18:44:32 2008
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Wed Aug 27 18:51:57 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] tubes - how to check calibration of a tube tester?
Message-ID: <48B5D8D0.8050002@austin.rr.com>
Any one -
I have read that a new or good 6L6 is the tube to use to check
calibration of a tube tester?
If the above is not acceptable then what?
Have a TV2-C/U and I-77B tube testers.
Thanks
hutch
From merrijoy at frontiernet.net Wed Aug 27 18:47:31 2008
From: merrijoy at frontiernet.net (Dave And Merrijoy)
Date: Wed Aug 27 18:55:26 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
References: <3645980.1219770110486.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
<001101c907a4$60e79330$0901a8c0@autooutlet>
Message-ID: <002601c90896$e4780fc0$02fea8c0@davehdv6x9zkbd>
I guess I've been fortunate in regard to PayPal. It's worked good for me.
On the
other hand, I was scammed last year with a bad check that followed up a
bogus bid.
EBay and PayPal, for all their faults, still provide auctions of things I'd
never find
anywhere else.
Dave w9ocm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Revcom"
To: "Ben Dover" ; "J Forster" ;
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
> One can only say it is coming! We run a business and take a multitude of
> credit cards, including PayPal. Local bank, and am sure others are doing
> the same, is now issuing "traverler's cards". These are plastic
> traveler's check devices that are 'preloaded' at the bank and processed
> just like any credit card.
>
> Now, big thing for us, we get "dinged" anywhere from 2.8-3.4 % on each
> transaction, depending on the card issuer. Bank says it is a sign of the
> times and they predict they will NOT process paper checks in 5 years or
> less. Of course there will always be CASH transactions but they forsee no
> paper drafts for payment being accepted by anyplace hardly. They prefer
> ACH, automatic drafts, and everything electronic transfers. I don't like
> it particularly in that if we have a lot of plastic transactions, it
> reduces our take by about 3%, that is an automatic overhead you can't
> escape. Thinking about not taking them, but banker says no.
>
> The younger generation is all for this, have a daughter, 20+ generation,
> and she does NOT carry cash nor a checkbook. And says that none of her
> friends do either. Sigh! Long for $20 bills at swapfests!!
>
> E Pay might be ahead of the curve on this. Of course they own PayPal,
> financed by GE Money Bank. As the ad says, "Whats in your wallet?".
>
> Rod
> K0EQH
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Dover"
> To: "J Forster" ; ;
> ; ;
> ;
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 12:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
>
>
>> Yeah... I saw this one come out late last week.
>>
>> The interesting part of it... they claim PayPal will make it easier and
>> safer to deal?
>>
>> Since Friday I've been trying to pay for a purchase through PayPal, and
>> after NUMEROUS attempts
>> (as of this morning, 15 tries) the system is refusing to pay the seller!
>>
>> So far I've got one PayPal person corresponding by E-mail, and spent a
>> half hour with another
>> one on the phone... SHE was called to explain two mysterious $1.00
>> charges that appeared on
>> my account on Saturday!
>>
>> She found no plausable reason for the problem... and begged off with
>> "intermittent system
>> glitch that we're chasing down now. It should be resolved shortly".
>>
>> That was on Sunday.
>>
>> So far, on Tuesday, no resolution... and they want to force EVERYBODY
>> to give up the option of
>> paying by other means, and deal with this "Charlie Foxtrot" of a computer
>> system???
>>
>> OMG...
>>
>>
>>
>> Mr. T., W9LBB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: J Forster
>>>Sent: Aug 25, 2008 10:45 PM
>>>To: milsurplus@mailman.qth.net, hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com,
>>>GenRad@yahoogroups.com, AILtech@yahoogroups.com,
>>>armyradios@yahoogroups.com
>>>Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
>>>
>>>http://pages.ebay.com/sell/August2008Update/Payments/
>>>
>>>-John
>>>
>>>===============
>>>
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From merrijoy at frontiernet.net Wed Aug 27 18:54:35 2008
From: merrijoy at frontiernet.net (Dave And Merrijoy)
Date: Wed Aug 27 19:02:30 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Shelby NC hamfest this weekend
References: <004301c9085b$dc263f30$fd0212ac@Heathkit2>
Message-ID: <003a01c90897$e0f11670$02fea8c0@davehdv6x9zkbd>
My days of driving 10-12 hours one-way for a hamfest are over. However, it
would sure be nice to attend that one!! Good luck, Guys!! Don't forget to
have a $1.00 table...that's always fun and the hamfest goers love it!!!!
Dave w9ocm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick England"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:44 AM
Subject: [Milsurplus] Shelby NC hamfest this weekend
>
> A whole bunch of us Boatanchor types will be flea-marketeering at the
> Dallas
> NC (formerly Shelby) hamfest this weekend. We'll be set up with a yellow
> "BOATANCHORS!" banner near the spot marked B on this aerial photo
> (entrance
> to the fest is off the top of the photo).
> http://www.virhistory.com/ham/photos/dallas-31.JPG
>
> Hope to see you there!
> Nick KD4CPL
> lookin' for 50's-60's Navy communications gear
> www.virhistory.com/navy
>
>
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From merrijoy at frontiernet.net Wed Aug 27 19:10:22 2008
From: merrijoy at frontiernet.net (Dave And Merrijoy)
Date: Wed Aug 27 19:18:17 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Radio Site (was eBay does it)
References: <48B36E58.F4541022@quik.com><8CAD5AADCDD3D5C-E20-5B3E@webmail-nf13.sim.aol.com>
Message-ID: <00a201c9089a$1597de70$02fea8c0@davehdv6x9zkbd>
If anyone is interested in posting your "radio for sale", etc., take a look
at http://radioexchange.tripod.com
Dave w9ocm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Tauson"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:52 AM, wrote:
>
>> Maybe we will see a resurgence of the good old Ham swap meets.
>
> Here in Hawaii, we have one or two major ones each year, one each on
> Oahu and the Big Island. "Major" is something like your basic yard
> sale, not like the fests on the mainland. As a result, I have to
> depend on people on the lists and *shudder* eBay for what I need/want.
> For eBay, while I use PP, I prefer having my bank cut a check just
> like I do for folks I've bought from here - not for the paper trail
> but for trust issues. Losing that option makes things like Craiglist
> that much more inviting.
>
> An ideal situation for me would be to have someone who does go to the
> hamfests have available cash from a fund set up for the purpose of
> picking up things for me while [s]he's wandering around. But here
> again are problems, some obvious and some not so obvious. One of
> those problems - a major one, in fact - is *who*. The rest trickle
> down from there.
>
> I guess I should post a needs & wants list somewhere. The needs for
> the displays is on my A.R.C. blog but it's incomplete and I need to
> update it a bit. Wants will go to the other blog when I remember to
> put it up.
>
> Anyway, now that I've muddied the waters some, I'll go back to sorting
> tools and watch parts.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael, WH7HG
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From jfor at quik.com Wed Aug 27 21:18:59 2008
From: jfor at quik.com (J Forster)
Date: Wed Aug 27 21:25:10 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
Message-ID: <48B5FD03.F5EE69A8@quik.com>
Subject: [BOATANCHORS-TEMPE] Ebay Problems
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:16:40 -0700
From: Lloyd KK7IZ
To: BOATANCHORS@LISTS.TEMPE.GOV
I just got off the phone with the Federal Trade Commission. They want to
hear from you.
You can file a complaint by calling
1-877-382-4357
or go to their web site
www.ftc.gov
home page---quick find---consumer complaints.
Stand up and shout. I understand it does not take many voices to make
them
pay attention, after all they have to justify their existence.
Scream, shout, jump up and down. Do something besides complain.
Pass this on to any reflector you can.
And I dam well got 'nads 'nuf to sign my name to it.
Thanx
Lloyd KK7IZ
kk7iz@cox.net
====================
-John
From olegerityincj at austin.rr.com Wed Aug 27 22:18:21 2008
From: olegerityincj at austin.rr.com (John Hutchins)
Date: Wed Aug 27 22:25:18 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] eBay does it
In-Reply-To: <48B5FD03.F5EE69A8@quik.com>
References: <48B5FD03.F5EE69A8@quik.com>
Message-ID: <48B60AED.7070004@austin.rr.com>
http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200808.shtml
Guise of "*Getting Ready for Paperless Payments"*
http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200808.shtml
Failed to mention the extra bucks sucked off your transaction to "cover
costs".
Done just completed the form. Thanks for the Link J!
Hutch
J Forster wrote:
> Subject: [BOATANCHORS-TEMPE] Ebay Problems
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:16:40 -0700
> From: Lloyd KK7IZ
> To: BOATANCHORS@LISTS.TEMPE.GOV
>
>
> I just got off the phone with the Federal Trade Commission. They want to
> hear from you.
> You can file a complaint by calling
> 1-877-382-4357
> or go to their web site
> www.ftc.gov
> home page---quick find---consumer complaints.
>
> Stand up and shout. I understand it does not take many voices to make
> them
> pay attention, after all they have to justify their existence.
> Scream, shout, jump up and down. Do something besides complain.
>
> Pass this on to any reflector you can.
> And I dam well got 'nads 'nuf to sign my name to it.
> Thanx
> Lloyd KK7IZ
> kk7iz@cox.net
>
> ====================
>
> -John
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From kim.herron at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 27 23:00:22 2008
From: kim.herron at sbcglobal.net (kim.herron@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed Aug 27 23:08:15 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Fw: [ForSale-Swap] Tube manuals for sale
Message-ID: <000f01c908ba$369b0c80$2cb0eb4c@HPa550y>
> Hi Gang!
>
> Need to find a home for all these extra tube manuals I have. Each
> book gets a copy of a tube sub handbook with it.
> Prices do not include shipping and all can be shipped media mail. We
> will combine manuals for postage.
>
> 1. Tung-Sol tube basing diagram book. Nice shape, small book
> $3.00. May ship First class
>
> 2. Tung-Sol tube basing diagram book. Same as above but fair shape
> $2.00. May ship first class
>
> 3. GE Essential Tube Characteristics. ETR-15H no date found
> $10.00
>
> 4. GE Essential Tube Characteristics. ETR-15M '67. Basing
> diagrams at bottom of pages $12.00
>
> 5. Tung-Sol Tube Characteristics manual '54. Has diodes and other
> parts in back. Missing cover $7.00
>
> 6. RCA RC-20 1960 tube manual. All there but binding loose. $7.00
>
> 7. RCA RC-21 1961 Tube Manual. Nice shape $10.00
>
> 8. GE Essential Characteristics 1969 $10.00
>
> 9. Antique Electronic Supply Tube manual. Early tubes through
> Loctals $4.00
>
> 10 Sylvania Technical manual. early tubes through compactrons
> $10.00
>
> 12 Radiotron Designers Handbook, 3rd edition. $25.00
>
> I will accept Paypal, checks or MO's. If paying by check or MO,
> payment must be here in 7 days or the item goes to the next person
> that is interested. Please send your address in your reply so I can
> figure the postage and give you the final price.
> Thanks for reading the mail!!
> Kim Herron W8ZV
> 1-616-677-3706
> kim.herron at sbcglobal dot net
> Looking for GE E-129
>
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From dxguy at earthlink.net Thu Aug 28 02:32:28 2008
From: dxguy at earthlink.net (Don Davis)
Date: Thu Aug 28 02:41:29 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Radio Site (was eBay does it)
References: <48B36E58.F4541022@quik.com><8CAD5AADCDD3D5C-E20-5B3E@webmail-nf13.sim.aol.com>
<00a201c9089a$1597de70$02fea8c0@davehdv6x9zkbd>
Message-ID:
Great site! Except for the fact that it has exactly two (2) radios
listed. Yes, eBay is evil and bad, but they have over 1,000 radios
listed, and somewhere around 12,000 listings in "Ham Radio".
73 deDon AD6PB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave And Merrijoy"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Radio Site (was eBay does it)
> If anyone is interested in posting your "radio for sale", etc., take a
> look at http://radioexchange.tripod.com
> Dave w9ocm
From merrijoy at frontiernet.net Thu Aug 28 05:37:36 2008
From: merrijoy at frontiernet.net (Dave And Merrijoy)
Date: Thu Aug 28 05:45:34 2008
Subject: [Milsurplus] Radio Site (was eBay does it)
References: <48B36E58.F4541022@quik.com><8CAD5AADCDD3D5C-E20-5B3E@webmail-nf13.sim.aol.com>
<00a201c9089a$1597de70$02fea8c0@davehdv6x9zkbd>
Message-ID: <001a01c908f1$b517dbb0$02fea8c0@davehdv6x9zkbd>
My intent is not to compete with eBay; rather, to provide a "hamfest-like"
atmosphere for
hams and radio people to have a site to sell.
I have just recently resurrected the site and the (2) listed radio ads you
mentioned are
only days old.
It's entirely voluntary and entirely free. Only those who are interested
need to post.
Dave w9ocm
http://radioexchange.tripod.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Davis"
To: "Dave And Merrijoy" ;
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Radio Site (was eBay does it)
> Great site! Except for the fact that it has exactly two (2) radios
> listed. Yes, eBay is evil and bad, but they have over 1,000 radios
> listed, and somewhere around 12,000 listings in "Ham Radio".
>
> 73 deDon AD6PB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave And Merrijoy"