[Milsurplus] scanning old photos/books
WA5CAB at cs.com
WA5CAB at cs.com
Tue Jul 17 01:33:09 EDT 2007
Barry,
I started doing TM scanning in 1999, which seems almost yesterday but is now
8 years 2 months back. Since the beginning, I've used Xerox equipment but
have acquired some scanned manuals done with other equipment.
Parameters to consider (ignoring color) are scanner resolution capability (in
both directions), storage file format, scanner response (output or contrast
slope from B&W to 256 gray scale), and file compression methods (somewhat
contrained by chosen storage file format).
My early work was solely aimed at being able to print hard copy to 8-1/2 x 11
or larger pages. The original equipment that I had would print at 600 dpi
but only scan up to 400. Initially I found that TM photos scanned at 300 and
printed looked actually better than those scanned at 400. Completely forgetting
earlier work with digitizers and aliasing problems, for several months I did
all my scanning at 300 dpi. One day while reading the printer/scanner manual
again I discovered that the printer would also print at 400 dpi, a mental
lightbulb flashed on and I ran some test scans at 400 dpi of earlier work, printed
them at 400 dpi and compared them to the 300 dpi scans printed at 300 and
600. What I found was that the 300 printed at 300 and 600 couldn't be told
apart. The 400 printed at 400 looked much better.
The next Xerox machine I had and the present one both scan at up to 600 dpi.
Every once in a while, for one reason or another I have scanned pages at 400
dpi and sometimes compared them to the same pages scanned at 600 (and if
printed, printed at the scan resolution). Mostly, there's little to choose between
the appearance of the two but as storage space is no longer any issue (I
currently have about 1.5 TB online not counting removable media) I do almost all
scanning at 600 dpi.
In the other direction, I will just state categorically that less than 300
dpi scanning of vintage B&W photos will result in obvious degradation of
reproduced image quality and not go into details of comparisons I've run.
Now, ideally, one would match up the scan pitch to the printed dot pitch. for
the best results, but that would take considerable extra work and for optimum
results (best results with minimum file size) require not only matching the
pitch but syncing the scanner with the printed dots. Given differential
shrinkage of typical vintage pages (the dot rows and columns aren't straight nor
exactly at right angles to each other), it would take gigabuck equipment.
So that's it for scanning resolution for photos. Except to say that less
than 300 dpi scanning will also degrade legibility of printed text, especially on
schematics and wiring diagrams which often have small print (test also run on
this).
The preferred working file format for B&W work (either text or B&W photos) is
TIFF. People with XP and later MS OS's will have trouble viewing this as for
some unknown reason, MS no longer ships a working .TIF viewer, although they
apparently still own the rights to one. However, there are a number of third
party viewers that work OK, although most lack editing capability. JPEG is
not suitable. Besides having lossy compression, the file sizes at a given dpi
are too large. TIFF files can be converted to PDF with no loss of quality.
However, all cleaning and straightening must be done before conversion as none
of the PDF editors I'm familiar with have that capability.
Apparently most of the consumer grade scanners (unfortunately I've not used
any of them, just seen some of the results) do color and 256 gray scale. From
Barry's comments I gather his also does black and white (or something other
than 256 gray scale). The difference between 256 gray scale and black and white
is the contrast slope. The Xerox scanners do 256 gray scale (called Photo),
black and white (called Text) and one or sometimes two intermediate slopes.
The DC430 I currently have does one intermediate called Auto which I think the
generic name for would be Half Tone. Auto works best on photos in manuals.
The only use I ever found for Photo was on actual original photographs (I have
a set of 8 x 10's from the company that built the CDA-T for the AN/ART-13 and
it worked fine on them). Text works best for text as it will ignore a lot of
background yellowing of the pages. My SOP is to scan an entire manual with
the Text setting and then go back and scan all pages with photos with the Auto
setting. I then cut and past the photos into the text page. I often have to
play with the brightness (light to dark) control depending upon the manual.
But this produces text generally free of background clutter (defects like punch
or staple holes, coffee or beer stains, dirt, etc. will have to be manually
deleted).
The best compressions algorithms for text with or without half tone photos
appear to be CCITT Group 3 or CCITT Group 4. You may have to look around in
your editing software in order to find them. They are apparently only applicable
to black and white. For other slopes, you will find LZW and JPEG. Look
around in your editor. It appears, from source documents I've received from other
sources, that many scanners (except to JPEG) save the file with no
compression. Applying LZW compression to a 256 or 16 gray scale file may drop the
physical file size by 70-80 %. I've also found that you can play a lot of tricks
with an editor that handles everything from True Color down to Black and White
and also supports copy and paste.
Finally, what the scanned files look like when you view them depend greatly
upon what you view them with. As I indicated earlier, a photo scanned at 400
dpi and printed at 600 dpi looks like hell. The same can be true of what you
see on a monitor, depending upon the scanned dpi versus the monitor maximum
resolution (actual physical dot pitch) and current resolution setting. And the
image appearance can vary greatly at different zooms. And may not mean
anything. Look at the image as you expect it to mostly be viewed.
In a message dated 7/16/2007 10:19:40 PM Central Daylight Time,
btuttleman at worldnet.att.net writes:
> i have a small collection of older military unit history books; i
> started w/ this one entitled "Historical &Pictorial Review, 40th
> Infantry Division, Army of the United States, San Luis Obispo, 1941"
> and attempted to scan some of the radio/communications/weapons/vehicles
> photos - here's an example from this work:
>
> http://home.att.net/~btuttleman1/radio1.jpg
>
> my eyes are constantly degrading, and this scan appears pretty "grainy"
> and not very clear to me, but when comparing it to the original it kind
> of looks pretty similar; anyone (robert?) have any ideas on scanner
> settings for older photos - this one was done in .jpg format @ 200 dpi;
> i tried it at other resolutions, but it only appeared to make the size
> (memory-wise) much larger, not clearer - so i'm thinking that this is
> what i'm going to get out of these scans. greyscale sent the size of
> the photo thru my roof.
>
> some of these photos might prove very interesting as far as what was in
> use at the time.
>
Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
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