[Milsurplus] Mil generator
Kenneth G. Gordon
kgordon2006 at verizon.net
Sat Mar 11 12:36:14 EST 2006
> Have a mil surplus generator from the late 40's (Army), early 50's (Air Force) and/or
> mid 50's (Army Corps of Engineers) (has tags from all 3...not sure if 1 or all are
> correct)
Hmmmm...interesting. Could you take some photos of the various tags and pass
them to some of us? I think we can help you.
>
> Has several ratings on power depending on voltage and phase...all about 10K at
> 220VAC
OK. The military had quite a number of generators which were able to provide the
following voltages, depending on where a particular switch or a set of jumpers was
set:
110 VAC at full power (whatever that was) single phase
110 VAC at FP, three phase
110/220 VAC single phase
220 VAC three phase
All the above at full power (10K in your case).
I had a 5KW genny like this once.
Is yours something like this?
>
> Has a 4-cylinder motor in it that is full to the top with water....
Usually, despite that type of problem, that can be fairly easily fixed. Do you know
the cause of there being water inside the cylinders? At least I assume that is what
you mean: water both inside the cylinders and in the crankcase? Possible causes
are blown head gaskets (very easily fixed), cracked head (not as easily fixed, but
still possible), cracked block (again, not as easily fixed as a blown head gasket, but
still fixable).
If your engine's block or head is cracked due to water with no antifreeze being left
in it during extremely cold weather, usually below zero, then in my experience, the
engine IS ruined and although it COULD be salvaged, it is probably not worth the
effort. However, if this really is the cause, the radiator would be ruined also, and
you have not indicated that is the case, so I am betting on the blown head gasket.
>
> Anyone have any info on the HP that it should have so I can locate a replacement
> engine...not looking for a restore to original...this is for emergency power for the
> house....
As Robert Downs told you, the conversion factor for THEORETICAL HP is 746
watts, more or less, per HP. So at 10 KW, that is about 14 HP, more or less.
However, in my experience, it is always wise to about DOUBLE that for a practical
engine, so say at least 25 HP, and I would use a 30 HP engine.
Since as Robert Downs mentions, the HP vs RPM curves for both gasoline and
diesel engines are quite "steep", you really should know the RPM at which the
generator normally runs. Then you will have to choose a replacement engine on
the basis of its HP/RPM curve.
Now, here is where it gets interesting: in my experience, those gen plants which
have the voltage choices listed above available, normally use a 2 pole alternator.
This means that for 60 Hz, the generator has to be turning at 3600 RPM constantly.
(60 CPS * 60 seconds = 3600, and each cycle contains two "pulses", one per pole)
4 pole alternators turn at 1800 RPM to provide 60 Hz, 6 pole alternators turn at
1200 RPM, 8 pole alternators turn at 900 RPM, and so on.
Since those military engines are far more robust than automotive engines, if it were
ME, I would rebuild the engine you have rather than try to find a different engine.
Ken Gordon W7EKB
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