OOPS!! Re: [Milsurplus] Real radios in surplus airplanes B 24, PV 2 Harpoon

[D C *Mac* Macdonald]

OOPS!!  That was meant to be hundreds
(or thousands) of   PERCENT   higher.

Mac



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From: "D C *Mac* Macdonald" <k2gkk at hotmail.com>
To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Real radios in surplus airplanes B 24, PV 2 
Harpoon
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:46:44 +0000

I remember a "story" about sabotage of aircraft
at a pilot training base.

It may have been in a novel, though, and I
don't remember where I read it.

For fact, though, training accident and death
rate was many hundreds (or even thousands)
of times back then what they are today.

Mac - K2GKK/5
Oklahoma City



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From: "Hue Miller" <kargo_cult at msn.com>
To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Real radios in surplus airplanes B 24, PV 2 
Harpoon
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:17:58 -0700

>From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>

>Sad stuff. Jeff Ethell, well-known author and very skilled pilot with
>loads of hours in a lot of different planes, was lost in a similar
>manner (pilot error) while flying a restored P-38 out at Tillamook
>(you must've seen a lot on this locally, Hue). Seems the fuel wasn't
>topped up and he ran out while heading in for landing. Even though one
>engine was still running, he didn't follow the correct procedures for
>engine loss on the P-38 (no small feat in itself) and lost the plane
>at fairly low altitude, along with his life. I remember reading the
>accident report and thinking 'what a terrible waste' in every sense of
>the word.

No- wasn't aware of that one. I was up there at the museum
where the Spruce Goose is - at the time they were still setting
up the walk-thru setup (just thru cargo area, i think), and we
(as i recall) couldn't find anyone who knew about what kind of
commo equipment was onboard, or how to find out....

>In Randolph, VT there's a small plaque on a little dirt side road,
>marking the spot where a B-17 being ferried overseas came down as a
>result of sabotage. Seems someone put some type of filings into the
>engines...
>
>de Todd/'Boomer'  KA1KAQ

Sabotage? Hmmm....i have to sorta doubt that...i would think,
more likely just manufacturing faults or errors...i know from
reading, there were slackers at some plants, just wolfing down
the overtime hours and maybe avoiding work, but sabotage
seems unlikely....i'd read about sabotage on the wharves, were
supposedly maybe explosives were placed in fuel coal loads...
maybe.

Talk of air accidents here makes me wonder about the kill rate due
to accidents in  WW2. Must have been pretty good also, especially
considering most of the flyers were not older than their 20s.

I recall reading in "Flyboys" i think it was, servicemen were
watching a movie on an outdoor screen. This somewhere in
the Pacific. Nearby was a runway of some kind. While the movie
was going on, a plane tried to land on the field, but somehow
missed and exploded, going up in flames. Meanwhile, the movie
went on.

I also  recently saw in the news about a training plane lost in
California mountains since '44, was it? Frozen body of one
navigator trainee was recently found in the ice there. Plane
had 3 navigator trainees on board, plus instructor and pilot.
Was 200 miles off course. 200 miles!  -Hue Miller


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