[Milsurplus] PP-7482 sevice manual?

[Barry Hauser]

Hi Robert & list:

That's an interesting "catch-22" account.  A lot of manuals on the LOGSA 
site are inconsistently classified.  Among manuals for a particular piece of 
gear one or two are restricted, while other, more detailed manuals for the 
same thing are not.  In some cases, it appears to be the same situation --  
the gear was ancillary to something more sensitive, but in other cases, 
seems purely random.

Here's an idea though:  If a manual was at any time classified as 
"restricted" or "Top Secret", either the KGB (whatever they're called now), 
chances are Russian or Chinese military intelligence might have copies on 
file.  A lot of previously classified stuff going back a long time has 
gotten distributed because much of the KGB files were made public-- and of 
course, The People's Republic's main mission nowadays is to sell us mass 
quantities.  Seems everything we buy is labeled "Made in China" -- even 
paper clips.  We've apparently lost the technological capability to bend up 
little pieces of stiff wire.  Either that, or it costs too much in power and 
the wages for that guy to load the spool and flip the switch on the 75 year 
old machine that cranks out 100,000 per hour.  The Russians will sell 
anything that isn't nailed down, well .. maybe a lot of nailed-down stuff 
too.

Meanwhile, some surplus Chinese gear has been turning up here, but probably 
by way of Viet Nam or whatever.  Unused, still sealed in crates and waxed 
paper, etc.  Maybe they copied the PP-7482 and you can get a manual for 
that -- in choice of language.

If you contact them, tell 'em you're a buyer for Walmart.

Or, maybe someone in a NATO country might have it.

Just an idea .. ;-)
Barry



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <WA5CAB at cs.com>
To: <Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] PP-7482 sevice manual?


> Jack,
>
> And between the two times that Richard went through the "process" I went
> through it.  There is or was a T.O. at I think it was Tinker AFB.  The 
> story I got
> originally was that the manual was classified either SECRET or TOP SECRET.
> When I pointed out that they had sold the Inverter on the open market and 
> I and
> several other people had one, they crawfished a little and admitted that 
> the
> manual and inverter were not classified but that the equipment (some 
> weapons
> system) that the inverter had been bought for (to run a light-line test 
> bench
> as I recall) was.  So the inverter manual somehow got flagged with the 
> weapons
> systems's disposal category and all copies but one were destroyed.  Then 
> they
> told me I could come to Tinker and copy it, but that I could not leave the
> base with it.  So I would have to talk someone else on the base into 
> authorizing
> me to use their copy machine, but that I could not use the machine(s) in 
> the
> building with the manual.  I didn't (any longer, because I had retired) 
> have
> the required clearance level to be allowed into the room where they were
> located.  Etc. etc.  I imagine that by now, they've managed to obtain 
> permission the
> destroy the one remaining copy.
>
> For what it's worth, the manual number is supposedly T.O. 31R2-2G-211. 
> Most
> of the inverter's were sold by Fair Radio (@ $750 each), but Phil says 
> that
> when they got them, they didn't get any paper with them.  I recently 
> bought a
> CV-2488/U with TM.  I have a PP-7482 is anyone needs a spare.  Won't get 
> all my
> money out of it but some would be better than none.
>
> In a message dated 4/9/2006 4:36:17 PM Central Daylight Time,
> rbrunner at gis.net writes:
>> >Anyone have or know of a source for a
>> >PP-7482/G service manual? Tried the Logsa
>> >site, and Fair, no luck.
>> >
>> >The unit is a 120V 400Hz static inverter.
>> >I lost a power transistor in it this weekend,
>> >and even though it's now fixed, I was flying blind,
>> >and just lucky the problem was easily found.
>>
>> Lots of luck - you're going to need it.  I went through the FOIA
>> procedure, was rejected, went through the whole appeal process, and was
>> also rejected.  According to the Air Force, releasing the instruction
>> book will compromise national security.  This left me with a genial
>> contempt for the Air Force.  The specific technology is obsolete, and
>> better models are available on the open market, so what's their problem?
>>
>> Mine was not so easily fixed.  All the switching/pass transistors were
>> shorted, and replacement was not the answer.
>>
>
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