[Milsurplus] Re: Milsurplus Digest, Vol 13, Issue 38

Thu May 19 22:41:05 EDT 2005

If you send me a clear picture of the Japanese, I'll translate it for you.
Ralph Cameron
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>   1. RE: 50.400 AM: Is It Worth the Effort? (Gary Mitchelson - N3JPU)
>   2. Re: WWII Japanese VHF? (Hue Miller)
>   3. Sextant value... a bit OT (J. Forster)
>   4. Re: WWII Japanese VHF? (Hue Miller)
>   5. Re: WWII Japanese VHF? (Hue Miller)
>   6. Re: WWII Japanese VHF? (Hue Miller)
>   7. Power Connector for LM-20 (Brian McQueen)
>   8. Re: WWII Japanese VHF? (Dan Cox)
>   9. Re: WWII Japanese VHF? (Ray Fantini)
>  10. Re: WWII Japanese VHF? (Ed Zeranski)
>  11. VHF  AM (mike nussman)
>  12. Re: VHF  AM (Ed Zeranski)
>  13. RE: Power Connector for LM-20 (WF2U)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:26:02 -0400
> From: "Gary Mitchelson - N3JPU" <n3jpu at speakeasy.net>
> Subject: RE: [Milsurplus] 50.400 AM: Is It Worth the Effort?
> To: "'David Stinson'" <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>, "'Todd, KA1KAQ'"
> <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
> Cc: 'Milsurplus New mailman' <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
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> Many of the very active guys in the Wash DC area on the 6M AM net are new
> hams and running vintage gear. We get a dozen or so check-in's per net.
>
> Gary Mitchelson
> N3JPU Montgomery Co. MD  FM19
> http://www.mitchelson.org/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Stinson [mailto:arc5 at ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:12
> To: Todd, KA1KAQ
> Cc: Gary Mitchelson - N3JPU; Milsurplus New mailman
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] 50.400 AM: Is It Worth the Effort?
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>
>
>
> Todd, KA1KAQ wrote:
>
>> It's like someone else mentioned though, not anything close to
>> continuous or even regular activity beyond some nightly round tables
>> and weekend activity...
>
> Thanks to everyone for their comments.
> I don't think there are enough interested older hams
> to keep VHF AM viable. The younger ones couldn't care
> less, nor do they understand anything that doesn't give
> them a "roger beep" when they release the PTT; I'd hate to think what one 
> of
> them would do, trying to tune up a Clegg 99er.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 14:31:10 -0700
> From: "Hue Miller" <kargo_cult at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] WWII Japanese VHF?
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <BAY106-F160DD9EBE662367FDC4CDFE4080 at phx.gbl>
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>>I have in my collection a Japanese WWII transmitter-receiver
>>working in the vhf spectrum. It uses octal based tubes such
>>as the 6J7 etc. I cann't read japanese so I do not know the
>>model number. So we know the Japanese used VHF for
>>communications.
>>Phil  signetics at netzero.com
>
> If you describe it, maybe we can identifiy it. Then tell me the actual
> frequency
> range, and we'll know if it really is vhf or not. vhf is defined by 30 - 
> 300
> MHz,
> and as i said, i've not seen any Japanese WW2 2-way radio comm equipment
> working above about 50 MHz. I don't think the 50 MHz equipment is what
> Dave was asking about.  -Hue Miller
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:45:58 -0400
> From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quik.com>
> Subject: [Milsurplus] Sextant value... a bit OT
> To: Milsurplus <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh at skylee.com>,
> "Wireless-Set-No19 @ yahoogroups.com"
> <Wireless-Set-No19 at yahoogroups.com>
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> Does anyone collect aircraft navigational instruments? I'm curious as to 
> the
> value of a Navy Aircraft Mark V Sextant with the averaging device in very 
> nice
> shape with the Bakelite carrying case.
>
> TIA,
> -John
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 14:50:26 -0700
> From: "Hue Miller" <kargo_cult at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] WWII Japanese VHF?
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
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>
> BTW, that book i mentioned a while back, was the title "Flyboys" ?, talked
> about an
> American POW on Chichi Jiimi, who was forced by the Japanese to do radio
> intercept monitoring at their radio base there. There is a photo in the 
> book
> of the radio positions and the only receivers shown are the late 1930s 
> huge
> receiver, type Special Receiver Model 92. An issue of Radio News from the
> war
> years has a photo of a radio receiver site installation captured at
> Guadalcanal and
> again, the only receiver shown in the Special 92. ( Not "38 Special" ).  I
> don't
> doubt that Japan had general coverage VHF monitor receivers but i'd also
> confidently wager that these were in quite small supply and rarely
> encountered.
> -Hue Miller
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 14:55:14 -0700
> From: "Hue Miller" <kargo_cult at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] WWII Japanese VHF?
> To: bwils at bellsouth.net, arc5 at ix.netcom.com,
> milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <BAY106-F12B9E829E630A77A291D40E4080 at phx.gbl>
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>
>
>>Someone needs to contact JARL and have them check with some former WW2
>>pilots and pose this question.  Get the direct scoop from the users.
>>
>>Bob, AF2HD
>
> No- from what few Japanese pilot accounts i've read, they #1 would not be
> cognizant of whether it was HF or VHF and #2 didn't respect their own
> radio equipment anyway. More on this if you want.
>
> But what Dave was asking about was Nipponese vhf radio monitoring
> capability, not where the aircraft radios worked. ( 3 - 10 Mcs and 30 - 45
> Mcs. )
> -Hue
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:00:19 -0700
> From: "Hue Miller" <kargo_cult at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] WWII Japanese VHF?
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <BAY106-F2492CC1F8DB6D487B79845E4080 at phx.gbl>
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>
>>From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
>>Reply-To: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
>>Another thing to keep in mind are the stories of Pappy taunting the
>>Japanese into coming up for a fight when he flew over their fields, by
>>calling them over the radio. For the longest time I thought this was
>>just hype from the TV series, but recently saw a program with several
>>members of his squadron relating stories. One story was of Pappy
>>calling them to come up and fight, with them obliging. So if you can
>>determine what gear they were using in his squadron, you can at least
>>determine with some certainty if they had and used VHF. Considering
>>the size of the gear and limited space of the fighters, it seems
>>unlikely they carried a lot of mixed gear.
>>~ Todd,  KA1KAQ
>
> Todd, the problem i see with this is, we don't know whether they came up
> because
> their manhood was challenged by his radio taunts, or whether they just 
> came
> up
> to attack because it was their job anyway. This sounds a bit too 
> movie-like,
> not
> him making taunts, but an actual "A causes B" response to it. Sounds like 
> a
> John
> Wayne movie. -Hue
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:04:36 -0500
> From: "Brian McQueen" <brianm at carsoncomm.net>
> Subject: [Milsurplus] Power Connector for LM-20
> To: "mil surplus" <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <002601c55cbe$bff9fbe0$6401a8c0 at carsoncomm.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hello to the Group,
>
> Does anyone have (or know of a source) for the power connector for the 
> above freq. meter?
>
> Tnx es 73,
> Brian    wj0p
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:25:49 -0700
> From: Dan Cox <tacquire at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] WWII Japanese VHF?
> To: Hue Miller <kargo_cult at msn.com>
> Cc: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <428D126D.6090609 at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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> I've seen interviews with his fellow pilots on the history channel, they
> said he did it so I believe 'em.
>
> Hue Miller wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
>>> Another thing to keep in mind are the stories of Pappy taunting the
>>> Japanese into coming up for a fight when he flew over their fields, by
>>> calling them over the radio. For the longest time I thought this was
>>> just hype from the TV series, but recently saw a program with several
>>> members of his squadron relating stories. One story was of Pappy
>>> calling them to come up and fight, with them obliging. So if you can
>>> determine what gear they were using in his squadron, you can at least
>>> determine with some certainty if they had and used VHF. Considering
>>> the size of the gear and limited space of the fighters, it seems
>>> unlikely they carried a lot of mixed gear.
>>> ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ
>>
>>
>> Todd, the problem i see with this is, we don't know whether they came
>> up because
>> their manhood was challenged by his radio taunts, or whether they just
>> came up
>> to attack because it was their job anyway. This sounds a bit too
>> movie-like, not
>> him making taunts, but an actual "A causes B" response to it. Sounds
>> like a John
>> Wayne movie. -Hue
>>
>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:39:41 -0400
> From: "Ray Fantini" <rafantini at salisbury.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] WWII Japanese VHF?
> To: <bwils at bellsouth.net>, <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>,
> <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>, <kargo_cult at msn.com>
> Message-ID: <s28cfa93.002 at mail2.salisbury.edu>
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> Here I am in Dayton sitting in a hotel room and watching the rain.
> Yokohama Radio MMuseumhas a gGretasite with tons of background on both
> radio and radar, many items that i Iave seen nonowherelse. Its all in
> jaJapaneseut you can get some idea of capcapabilitiesd coverage from
> their web pages. try:
> http://www.yokohamaradiomuseum.com/
>
> Ray Fantini KA3EKH
>
>>>> "Hue Miller" <kargo_cult at msn.com> 05/19/05 5:55 PM >>>
>
>
>>Someone needs to contact JARL and have them check with some former WW2
>>pilots and pose this question.  Get the direct scoop from the users.
>>
>>Bob, AF2HD
>
> No- from what few Japanese pilot accounts i've read, they #1 would not
> be
> cognizant of whether it was HF or VHF and #2 didn't respect their own
> radio equipment anyway. More on this if you want.
>
> But what Dave was asking about was Nipponese vhf radio monitoring
> capability, not where the aircraft radios worked. ( 3 - 10 Mcs and 30 -
> 45
> Mcs. )
> -Hue
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:48:33 -0700
> From: "Ed Zeranski" <ezeran at ezeran.cnc.net>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] WWII Japanese VHF?
> To: "Ray Fantini" <rafantini at salisbury.edu>, <bwils at bellsouth.net>,
> <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>, <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>,
> <kargo_cult at msn.com>
> Message-ID: <003301c55cd5$a817ab00$122a0340 at KONI>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] WWII Japanese VHF?
>
>
>> Here I am in Dayton sitting in a hotel room and watching the rain.
> Ray,
>
>    If you see any RU_GF 40/80 coils at Dayton keep me in mind, both TX and
> RX. Please tell 'Zorro' too to keep an eye out. Thanks! Also need GU-11
> shock mount and any comnnectors appreciated. I'm working in VA again ...so
> no HamFest for me.
>
> Thanks!
>
> EdZ
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:51:24 -0400
> From: "mike nussman" <n8azv at msn.com>
> Subject: [Milsurplus] VHF  AM
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <BAY103-F17950988E317DC2183D5B7FE090 at phx.gbl>
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> I would love to have QSO with my ARC-3 or ARC-1.
> About the only thing I've been able to do in the past is listen to myself 
> on
> an RX while transmitting to a load.
>
> Too many appliance users out there. and damn few operating engineers or
> technicians.
>
>
>
>
> So anyone in SW Fl?????
>
>
>
> Sincerely
> Mike Nussman
>
> Homeland Defese starts at home...DEFEND IT!
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 18:01:49 -0700
> From: "Ed Zeranski" <ezeran at ezeran.cnc.net>
> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] VHF  AM
> To: "mike nussman" <n8azv at msn.com>, <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <004301c55cd7$82013b50$122a0340 at KONI>
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> Where are you? I have 2 SCR-522s and an ARC-3 in work, 144.450 AM with
> carbon mic etc. There were three working sets at the 10th annual West 
> Coast
> Military Radio Collector's Group annual get-together on May 4-6th.
>
> EdZ
> ......I also have a couple of Gonset @ mtr 'Goonie Boxes'.
>
>
>
> Subject: [Milsurplus] VHF AM
>
>
>> I would love to have QSO with my ARC-3 or ARC-1.
>>
>> Homeland Defese starts at home...DEFEND IT!
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:55:03 -0400
> From: "WF2U" <wf2u at starband.net>
> Subject: RE: [Milsurplus] Power Connector for LM-20
> To: "Brian McQueen" <brianm at carsoncomm.net>, "mil surplus"
> <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <NABBLNEJDDKECLKHCAAPAEPIKMAA.wf2u at starband.net>
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> Try William Perry, phone 502-893-8724.
>
> 73, Meir WF2U
> Landrum, SC
>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Brian McQueen
>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:05 PM
>> To: mil surplus
>> Subject: [Milsurplus] Power Connector for LM-20
>>
>>
>> Hello to the Group,
>>
>> Does anyone have (or know of a source) for the power connector
>> for the above freq. meter?
>>
>> Tnx es 73,
>> Brian    wj0p
>>
>>
>
>
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