[Milsurplus] RE: Milsurplus Digest, Vol 11, Issue 42
mike nussman
n8azv at msn.com
Tue Mar 22 07:05:50 EST 2005
Sincerely
Mike Nussman
Homeland Defese starts at home...DEFEND IT!
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>Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: battleship gray TCS (W7QHO at aol.com)
> 2. Re: battleship gray TCS (Joseph Pinner)
> 3. Re: LO radiation (J. Forster)
> 4. Re: battleship gray TCS (Richard Brunner)
> 5. Swiss army knife - uh, trailer (Eric Jones)
> 6. Strange Eimac 4-125 Tubes (Jerry B.)
> 7. Re: Strange Eimac 4-125 Tubes (sdaitch at ibb.gov)
> 8. Re: battleship gray TCS (Ed Zeranski)
> 9. transformer (Brad Latta)
> 10. Re: transformer (Scott Johnson)
> 11. Re: transformer (David Stinson)
> 12. battleship gray TCS (Hue Miller)
> 13. WTB: CFT-15E Tubes (J. Forster)
>
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>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:33:10 EST
>From: W7QHO at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] battleship gray TCS
>To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
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>All,
>
>Picture of a happy guy (Hank, W6DJX) with his gray TCS at MRCG 2002, see:
>
>http://www.syzen.com/milradio/img2002/MRCG11.jpg
>
>Dennis D. W7QHO
>Glendale, CA
>
>
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:30:01 -0500
>From: Joseph Pinner <kc5ijd at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] battleship gray TCS
>To: Military Radio <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
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>
>On Mar 21, 2005, at 11:02 AM, David Stinson wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > While we're discussing that, Ray,
> > I have Navy aircraft equipment that has
> > been depot-oversprayed with grey paint.
> > Anyone know why this was done?
>
>I have a grey TBY as well. I suppose the Navy wanted everything 'their'
>color.
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:31:16 -0500
>From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quik.com>
>Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] LO radiation
>To: Richard Brunner <rbrunner at gis.net>
>Cc: milsurplus <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
>Message-ID: <423F3D23.EB85D481 at quik.com>
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>Richard Brunner wrote:
>
> > Further, a guy with experience said you need a decent
> > signal for DF'ing, and he often had trouble getting bearings on 10 Watt
> > beacons more than a few miles away.
>
>I can vouch for that, especially with ADFs. I had an MN-26 in the ADF
>configuration operating for quite a while and in a poor S/N environment it
>would
>hunt badly. There really needed to be an 'Integration Time' control to
>slow the
>loop response under such conditins.
>
>With manual systems, it may be very hard to get a reliable null when there
>is a
>high noise background. Also, the platforms were not exactly electrically
>quiet.
>
> > The latest theory is that the myth of
> > LO radiation betraying ship locations was Allied disinformation hoping
>to
> > mislead the Axis into believing we were sinking subs located by receiver
> > radiation.
>
>Correct, IMO
>
>-John
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:31:11 -0500
>From: "Richard Brunner" <rbrunner at gis.net>
>Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] battleship gray TCS
>To: "Military Radio" <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
>Message-ID: <026601c52e6e$e51e36d0$cdc807cf at richardb>
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> reply-type=response
>
>Re: Overspray
> > I have a grey TBY as well. I suppose the Navy wanted everything 'their'
> > color.
>
>Yes! It wasn't just aircraft equipment, etc. I have an RAL that was
>oversprayed, a wretched job, which I stripped and repainted, and it looks
>much better now.
>
>Richard Brunner, AA1p
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:05:27 -0600
>From: "Eric Jones" <ejones at hiwaay.net>
>Subject: [Milsurplus] Swiss army knife - uh, trailer
>To: <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
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>de N4TGC Eric
>
>I just acquired a 1/2-ton rated Swiss-made utility trailer (thanks Tom - I
>think+ACE-) Is there any collector interest in such a thing? It has a
>lunnette-eye
>hitch+ADs- 3' dia, six-lug tires+ADs- a 1' metal tilt-up wheel under the
>hitch, etc.,
>and looks pretty much like the American v. of suchathing.
>
>While the connector has been whacked off, I'm told the lights do work (I
>just
>cobbled on external ones to drag it home), and the taillight lenses have
>been
>changed to the US v.
>
>It has the usual square-tube axle, so I could yank the original out and
>retro-fit a conventional low-profile job to lower the tailgate height below
>2',
>but while the bed is 8' long, it's only 46+ACI- wide+ACE- The Swiss must
>not use
>'dimension' lumber ...
>
>Comments and evaluations? e
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 6
>Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:18:56 -0800
>From: "Jerry B." <n6aj at comcast.net>
>Subject: [Milsurplus] Strange Eimac 4-125 Tubes
>To: <Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
>Message-ID: <IOEBKHJBIJLFPMHIMEAKCECCCBAA.n6aj at comcast.net>
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>In going throught some boxes in the garage and came up with a sizable
>quantity of NOS 4-125's.
>I have no equipment to test them in. The best I could do is check the
>filaments for continuity.
>3 different Brands: Penta Labs, Lewis and Kaufman, and Eimac. The Penta
>Labs
>and Lewis and Kaufmans tested OK for filament continuity. 2 of the 5 Eimacs
>checked OK. However, the other 3 did not. The filament pins are supposed to
>be pins 1 and 5. The other 3 dont have continuity between pins 1 and 5.
>Instead there is continuity between pins (1 and 3) or (pins 5 and 3). Pin 3
>is supposed to be the control grid.
>
>Has anyone ever run across this problem?
>
>These are Military Surplus. The Penta Labs and Lewis and Kaufman are marked
>as 4D21 which is the Military number. The Eimacs are marked as 4-125.
>
>73s
>Jerry
>N6AJ
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:34:33 +0900
>From: sdaitch at ibb.gov
>Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] Strange Eimac 4-125 Tubes
>To: "Jerry B." <n6aj at comcast.net>
>Cc: Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
>Message-ID: <39c3c37303.3730339c3c at IBB.GOV>
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>Jerry,
>
>my gut feeling thought on this is that the filament strand
>has broken (opened up ) and a loose end of the filament
>strand has made physical contact with the grid.
>
>The could explain the open between 1 and 5 and continuity
>between 3 and either 1 or 5.
>
>
>
>73
>sheldon
>WA4MZZ
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jerry B." <n6aj at comcast.net>
>Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:18 am
>Subject: [Milsurplus] Strange Eimac 4-125 Tubes
>
> > In going throught some boxes in the garage and came up with a sizable
> > quantity of NOS 4-125's.
> > I have no equipment to test them in. The best I could do is check the
> > filaments for continuity.
> > 3 different Brands: Penta Labs, Lewis and Kaufman, and Eimac. The
> > Penta Labs
> > and Lewis and Kaufmans tested OK for filament continuity. 2 of the
> > 5 Eimacs
> > checked OK. However, the other 3 did not. The filament pins are
> > supposed to
> > be pins 1 and 5. The other 3 dont have continuity between pins 1
> > and 5.
> > Instead there is continuity between pins (1 and 3) or (pins 5 and
> > 3). Pin 3
> > is supposed to be the control grid.
> >
> > Has anyone ever run across this problem?
> >
> > These are Military Surplus. The Penta Labs and Lewis and Kaufman
> > are marked
> > as 4D21 which is the Military number. The Eimacs are marked as 4-125.
> >
> > 73s
> > Jerry
> > N6AJ
> >
> >
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>
>Message: 8
>Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:04:36 -0800
>From: "Ed Zeranski" <ezeran at ezeran.cnc.net>
>Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] battleship gray TCS
>To: "Ray Fantini" <RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu>,
> <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
>Message-ID: <004201c52e7b$1fce5c40$5b710040 at KONI>
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>Subject: [Milsurplus] battleship gray TCS
>
>
> > I have been doing this military radio thing for about thirty years now
> > and this past weekend have seen something that I have not seen before, a
> > battleship gray TCS-12.
>
>Ray and the group...
>
> The Navy started going to Haze Grey for depot overhauls sometime in
>the
>'50s vice having to reproduce the black crackle finish. (.....and maintain
>the industrial process to do black crackel) The change to SO-239 was
>yard-done on sets too. If you go to the West Coast Military Radio
>Collector's Group website there are pictures of the Hank Brown W6DJX TCS 5
>or 6 in yard painted grey as well as one of my newer sets, TCS-12, still in
>original black. I think the Navy just wanted to simplify the overhaul
>process. Hey! I have black and gray RBA/RBB/RBC too. The grey sets probable
>have all the mods available at yard time too from the E.I.M.B. The
>"Electronic Installation and Maint. Book", BU-SHIPS 67, and it's bulletins
>list the mods.
>
>EdZ
>
>PS: Oops forgot to say to get in touch with Robert Downs ,wa5cab at cs.com, as
>Robert might have BUSHIPS-67 copies
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 9
>Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:42:09 +1100
>From: "Brad Latta" <bl at qualifi.com.au>
>Subject: [Milsurplus] transformer
>To: <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
>Message-ID:
> <AE4E327B609F434CAC2E0B70CF8104E10BEEBB at NTSBS.qualifi.com.au>
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>
> Hi all,
> I am building a 28V, 50A power supply. The transformer I have
>was a three phase 208Vac delta input , 20Vac star output. I am hoping to
>connect the input winding to the single phase 230Vac mains here, I seem to
>remember a circuit for converting three phase connections to single phase,
>but cannot locate it. It's for a mil project. Does anyone remember the
>circuit?
> Regards, Brad
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 10
>Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:58:10 -0700
>From: "Scott Johnson" <scottjohnson1 at cox.net>
>Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] transformer
>To: "Brad Latta" <bl at qualifi.com.au>, <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
>Message-ID: <02e201c52e93$5d707b10$6401a8c0 at Johnson>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>You are probably much better of finding a single phase transformer, because
>anything you do to connect a three phase transformer to single phase will
>result in severe derating of the transformer, as well as poor regulation
>(at
>best). Have you looked around for a switcher? they seem to be plentiful
>in
>the 28V/50 A range at surplus places and Hamfests.
>
>Scott
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brad Latta" <bl at qualifi.com.au>
>To: <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 8:42 PM
>Subject: [Milsurplus] transformer
>
>
>Hi all,
> I am building a 28V, 50A power supply. The transformer I have
>was a three phase 208Vac delta input , 20Vac star output. I am hoping to
>connect the input winding to the single phase 230Vac mains here, I seem to
>remember a circuit for converting three phase connections to single phase,
>but cannot locate it. It's for a mil project. Does anyone remember the
>circuit?
> Regards, Brad
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>Message: 11
>Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:56:49 -0600
>From: David Stinson <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>
>Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] transformer
>To: Scott Johnson <scottjohnson1 at cox.net>
>Cc: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net, Brad Latta <bl at qualifi.com.au>
>Message-ID: <423FA591.3030600 at ix.netcom.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>
>
>Scott Johnson wrote:
> >... Have you looked around for a switcher? they seem
> > to be plentiful in the 28V/50 A range at surplus places and Hamfests.
>
>I bought an Astec V6S series *dual* 24 volt 50 amp switcher from Ebay
>for $45. Hooked a wire between the control connectors and
>it forces them to load-share.
>Starts my PE-73 (75-amp surge) with no fuss.
>It is about half the size of a shoe box and weighs all of
>six or eight pounds. Best milradio thing I ever found.
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 12
>Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:07:18 -0800
>From: "Hue Miller" <kargo_cult at msn.com>
>Subject: [Milsurplus] battleship gray TCS
>To: <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
>Message-ID: <BAY9-DAV23840A628EECC5C6BD2324E44E0 at phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>I have not yet seen any botched grey paint jobs, but i have to say, i
>really prefer
>the grey equipment. I think it just looks better and i think the Navy and
>USAAF
>overdid the black wrinkle. No other country went for the black wrinkle
>paint.
>
>But, i have to admit, painting a TBY grey is just silly.
>-Hue Miller
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 13
>Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:44:41 -0500
>From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quik.com>
>Subject: [Milsurplus] WTB: CFT-15E Tubes
>To: Milsurplus <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
>Cc: "BOATANCHORS @ LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV"
> <BOATANCHORS at LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV>, "Wireless-Set-No19 @
> yahoogroups.com" <Wireless-Set-No19 at yahoogroups.com>
>Message-ID: <423FBED8.A04E7D7D at quik.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Hi all,
>
>I'm looking for a minimum of 4 ea. CFT-15E tubes, preferably NOS Navy
>marked
>with the anchor symbol as in the box in the link pic. I would like them as
>spares for a transmitter I am playing with and will consider lots of up to
>about
>10 pcs, depending on price. They are cute little puppies. See:
>
>http://www.tubecollector.org/15e.htm
>
>There is no real rush, but if you happen across a set or more, please let
>me
>know.
>
>Thanks,
>-John
>
>
>
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