Fw: [Milsurplus] e-mail address harvesters of QTH.net

[Dr. William J. Schmidt, II]

Speaking of junk mail... I think we are there on this thread.

Sincerely,

Dr. William J. Schmidt, II  K9HZ
Trustee of the North American QRO - Central Division Club - K9ZC

Email: bill at wjschmidt.com
WebPage: www.wjschmidt.com

"If computers get too powerful, we can organize them into a committee; that 
will do them in."  -- Bradley's Bromide


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quik.com>
To: "David Stinson" <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>
Cc: "Kenneth G. Gordon" <kgordon at moscow.com>; <Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] e-mail address harvesters of QTH.net


> My ISP has installed new spam filters that apparently blacklist from the 
> SpamCop
> data base. They are not foolish filters like Earthlink uses, but 
> apparently VERY
> smart.
>
> I used to get 20 or more spams a day from the jerks in Korea (Shinbiro, 
> Kornet,
> and Hanaro) and some others. After the filters were installed there has 
> not been
> a single one. Relatively few bad apples do most of the spamming. I'd guess 
> there
> are less than 1000 big time spammers worldwide.
>
> FWIW, I don't think that Google searches either the QTH or the Yahoo Group
> archives, so posting on those lists is fairly safe. The Military Vehicles 
> list
> IS searched, BTW. It's a favorite for Nigerian (419) scammers.  Also, 
> Google
> does not search Yahoo Group web sites beyond the home page, if the access
> functions are set to 'members only'.
>
> Part of the problem has been caused by ISPs and their business models. 
> They have
> been only too happy to sell access to anyone to fill up their capacity. 
> Now the
> spam is filling that capacity, and they will be faced with greater 
> expenses to
> add new capacity. I expect that spam will decrease some, because it's 
> cheaper
> for ISPs to clamp down on big spammers than to add more network capacity.
>
> IMO, a useful thing to do is to report spammers via SpamCop 
> (www.spamcop.net)
> The service is free, although they do solicit money, and you can send 
> reports in
> 'mole' mode. As I said above, spamcop maintains a data base of spamming 
> ISPs and
> so there is an incentive for ISPs to take a complaint from them seriously.
>
> Another way to torment SW pirates who spam, is to forward the spams to the 
> SW
> vendors. Macromedia nd Microsoft are particularly aggressive in my 
> experience.
>
> -John
>
>
>
> David Stinson wrote:
>
>> Kenneth G. Gordon wrote:
>> > Also, it turns out that 85 % of all e-mail traffic on the net is spam 
>> > now.
>>
>> There can be only one reason that is so: Spam sells; it works.
>> I read once that there were enough obsessive/compulsives
>> on the net to assure that all viruses are propagated
>> and that all Spam sells enough to make it profitable.
>> I wonder how true that is....
>
>
>
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