[Milsurplus] Operation Market Garden

Bob Camp ham at cq.nu
Sat Nov 13 22:55:04 EST 2004


Hi

Ok, a little more investigation comes up with the answer to the WS 19 
question. The radios on the other end of the link often were 22's 
rather than 19's. Judging from the comments on the 22 it seems to have 
been a set down from the 19 in terms of effectiveness on HF.

	Enjoy!

		Bob Camp
		KB8TQ


On Nov 13, 2004, at 8:43 PM, Bob Camp wrote:

> Hi
>
>
> Early on in the segment on the program they mentioned testing with 
> modern gear. That whole thread seemed to die out about half way 
> through. They certainly stated at the end of the segment that they had 
> done tests with a real WS 68 and it had failed to do the job.
>
> The radio on the "other end" of the link was not a WS 68. It was 
> obviously British and WWII gear. The earlier reference to the WS 19 
> was in the context of being the other end of the link. I pretty much 
> expected them to talk about both ends of the circuit but they never 
> did. I also expected them to do comparisons of modern gear running to 
> old gear and vice versa. Again no information.
>
> About the only thing they did present as results was that the WS 68 
> they had failed pretty badly when it came to doing the job.
>
> 	Take Care!
>
> 		Bob Camp
> 		KB8TQ
>
>
>
> On Nov 13, 2004, at 7:11 PM, J. Forster wrote:
>
>> Bob Camp wrote:
>>
>>> The 68's they showed were the battery powered version. If that is
>>> representative of what was really used then there's another issue.
>>> Having run low power battery powered tube gear I can speak to this
>>> directly. The power you get on a brand new set of batteries is maybe
>>> 30% higher than what you get after the battery has been used for a 
>>> few
>>> minutes. The 1/4 watt probably was down to half of that after a few
>>> hours of use ...
>>>
>>> Be interesting to see if anybody on the list has any real data.
>>>
>>>         Take Care!
>>>
>>>                 Bob Camp
>>>                 KB8TQ
>>
>> My understanding is that the tests were done using modern HF rigs. 
>> There were
>> problems getting enough working WS 68s to do a test. There was a post 
>> on the
>> WS-19 list a while back from a Brit looking for the WS 68 EMER 
>> (Workshop
>> Manual).
>>
>> Also, I believe the 68 set is derived from the 18 set, not the 19 set 
>> as
>> previously stated. The 58 set has the same heritage, and I collect 
>> those. The 18
>> set was the workhorse on the Bruneval Raid to capture a German 
>> Wurtzburg Radar
>> set and on D-Day.
>>
>> -John
>>
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