[Milsurplus] FW - Homeland Security & Whining Foreign Nationals

D C Macdonald k2gkk at hotmail.com
Wed May 12 10:24:53 EDT 2004


One must consider what appears to be Canada's
extremely limited (even more so than the USA)
control over who enters its borders.  Canada
has been a major route of entry into the US by
past terrorists, including some of the Sep 11
bunch.

Like it or not (I don't), American entry "guards" have
always tended to be far less polite than their Canadian
counterparts.  I am a retired USAF officer, and when
my wife and I plus our two kids reentered the USA
at Niagra Falls on our motorcycles back in 1980, the
attitude of US Customs personnel was less than polite
(to say the least), even back before terrorism was
extant in our land.

73  ---  Mac, K2GKK/5


----Original Message Follows----
From: "WF2U" <wf2u at starband.net>
Reply-To: wf2u at starband.net
To: <Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: RE: [Milsurplus] FW - Homeland Security & Whining Foreign Nationals
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:09:11 -0400

1. It is true that our country is at war.
2. We're NOT at war with Canada.
3. Customs agents and Border guards should be better trained as to what they
should really be worried about.
4. The Canadian visitor came to our country to share the hobby with
Americans.
5. The Canadian visitor spent money in our country.

Your statement is rude and uncalled for!

In all my travels to Canada I never met anything but courteous treatment
from Canadian officials - and I traveled back and forth with both US and
Canadian military surplus radios  - even post 9/11.

On the other hand, showing my ham license on both sides of the border when
questioned about the radios, the short explanation of the radios being
surplus, and "I'm authorized by the FCC and by the Canadian authorities by
the reciprocal agreement to operate this equipment on the amateur bands" met
with a quick "go on" wave by the border personnel.

Most military vehicle collectors who also have radio equipment on board are
not hams. I'm sure a valid ham license would have expedited things,
according to my experience.

73, Meir WF2U
Gowensville, SC

  -----Original Message-----
From: 	milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net]  On Behalf Of Mark Foltarz
Sent:	Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:55 AM
To:	Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
Subject:	Re: [Milsurplus] FW - Homeland Security & Whining Foreign Nationals

1. This country is at war weather we want to be or not.

2. Border guards and Dept of Customs agents are trained and paid to be
suspicious and have never been known for courtesy - its not in the job
description.

3. Aforementioned guards however are trained to act on suspicious
cicumstances
- even a vintage military vehicle decked out to the T's.

4. Our Canadian visitor in the original post experienced only a minor delay,
paid no fine, was not incarcerated and was allowed to continue on his way.

In conclusion, if our Canadian visitor does not like how we do things here
he /
she should stay home or perhaps go visit France.

de KA4JVY
Mark




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