[MilCom] 249249 GOTO FMS flying right over me right now callingout an EAM on 311.00

Tue Apr 15 07:02:46 EDT 2014

Roger wrote: When Boeing equipped the E-6's from the 737 flight avionics, they installed the new Mode-S transponders, and one of the pilots asked: "Where does the data in this window go?" and the Boeing technician said "It goes to the FMS (Flight Management System) and is stored in a register." Since that time, the Navy pilots are scared to change the reading, just in case it doesn't go to the FMS anymore...

Now that is funny Roger. 

I talked with an old Navy friend back some time ago and he was involved in this project. He confirmed the avionics upgrade and the tie in of several systems to this Flight Management System (FMS). He really didn’t explain the GOTO part of the Mode-S ID (probably didn’t know it for sure), but at least the last part of that mystery has been resolved. I independently confirmed his story through some other docs I captured several years ago on the net. I find it interesting that these guys would be sending position info all the time and many other DoD platforms do not. I agree that maybe it has something to do with the Open Skies Treaty we have with our good friends the Russians.

>From some notes I have here are the systems that are tied into the Flight Management System on the E-6Bs

Multi-function Control Display Unit, Flight Management computer, Navigation Display, FMC Source Select Switch, Airborne Data Loader (ADL), Airborne Data Loader Control Panel,  Multi-Mode Receiver (MMR) (1) Civil GPS (2) VOR (3) Marker Beacon (4) Instrument Landing System, Distance Measuring Equipment (DME), Enhanced Ground Proximity Warning System (EGPWS) (1) Ground Proximity Warning Module (2) Weather Terrain Relay (3) Pilot/Copilot Glideslope Inhibit Switch (4) Below Glideslope Light (5) Digital Flight Guidance System, DFGS Mode Control Panel, Warning Annunciator Panel (WAP), FMC Transfer Relays and Digital Air Data Computer
(DADC). Interesting system and this was current as of 2007. I understand that they have other stuff now including several RF avionic packages tie to the FMS.

So Roger thanks for sharing and good hunting

Chief (aka El Jefe)

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Larry Van Horn, N5FPW
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Author North American Enroute Aviation Guide e-Book
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From: Roger Strohmeyer 
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 3:28 PM
To: Larry Van Horn-N5FPW ; MILCOM 
Subject: Re: [MilCom] 249249 GOTO FMS flying right over me right now callingout an EAM on 311.00

Hi Larry,

Myself and others have always thought the FMS in GOTO FMS was Fleet Maintenance Symposium. 

However here is an interesting quote I found while searching GOTO FMS:

When Boeing equipped the E-6's from the 737 flight avionics, they installed the new Mode-S transponders, and one of the pilots asked: "Where does the data in this window go?" and the Boeing technician said "It goes to the FMS (Flight Management System) and is stored in a register." Since that time, the Navy pilots are scared to change the reading, just in case it doesn't go to the FMS anymore...

OK, more coffee!  Here's a bunch of them doing crash and dashes at Tinker:

I believe they use ADS-B as part of the Salt Treaty, as they are part of the Nuclear Forces, and have the capability to launch nuclear weapons from both submarines (trailing wire antenna) and from silos.  An increase in DEFCON would strangle the ADS-B and GOTO FMS might read GOTO HELL...

Source: http://www.radarspotters.eu/forum/index.php/topic,414.15.html

-Roger

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Larry Van Horn-N5FPW <n5fpw at brmemc.net> wrote:

  Actually Brian the FMS you mentioned stands for Flight Management System.

  It is the heart of the avionics package for most modern fixed wing aircraft.

  You can read more about it by doing a Google search or via link below
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_management_system

  Chief

  Larry Van Horn, N5FPW
  President, Teak Publishing
  Author North American Enroute Aviation Guide e-Book
  PlanePlotter Sharer zL/Mode-S SBS Monitor
  Milcom Monitoring Post http://mt-milcom.blogspot.com/
  Twitter: @MilcomMP

  -----Original Message----- From: Brian
  Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 2:06 PM
  To: 'MILCOM'
  Subject: Re: [MilCom] 249249 GOTO FMS flying right over me right now callingout an EAM on 311.00

  For the others reading this thread.

  GOTO FMS means GOTO Fleet Maintenance Symposium.

  Track the E6 aircraft on Planefinder.net / Apps

  The E6 shows up on Planefinder.net
  You can also use the 'Filter' option.  Some unknown reason the E-6B listed under this airline name "
  Walter | Linkoping "

  Set the Planefinder App to send alerts for the E6 aircraft using the call sign " GOTO FMS "

  You can use this link to find the first active E6 flying.
  http://planefinder.net/flight/GOTO%20FMS

  [Note: The E-6B aircraft are blocked on Flightradar24.com and radarbox24.com ]

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Roger Strohmeyer
  Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 10:38
  To: MILCOM
  Subject: Re: [MilCom] 249249 GOTO FMS flying right over me right now calling out an EAM on 311.00

  For those who are curious about the GOTO FMS call-sign, GOTO FMS is the Mode-S\ABS-B call-sign for
  E-6B TACAMO flights. I live fairly close to Travis AFB where their base is so I see & hear quite a
  bit of traffic from them. GOTO FMS seems to be one of the only military flights that you can
  actually see flying on your screen and I think that's because they use ADS-B rather than
  Mode-S....someone please correct me if I'm mistaken. ;-)

  -Roger in Sonoma County

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