[MilCom] Discussion Points -- Logging Codes, Summary Logs Versus Real Time, Multiple List Postings Uniqueness?

[Larry Van Horn, N5FPW]

Just a reminder to all who have been here from the beginning when I invoted 
you to the list and now those that have joined since then, when I founded 
this list, this subject of came up and was soundly voted down. When you 
start down this road people get fustrated and will not post. That is not the 
purpose of this list. IT is the message and not how it is formatted that 
matters here. Making people use a format and codes inhibits the free 
exchange of information among the list members.

In short, a promise was made and it will be kept, no formats, no codes, no 
nothing. You do your own thing, how you want, when you want and where you 
want. As long as the basic rules are not violated, (off topic post, and 
attacking your fellow list members - privately or publicly), pretty much 
anything goes here.

Sorry Ken, no codes, formats or anything along that line will be allow on 
this list. I made that promise when I formed this list and my mind has not 
been changed.

This topic is now closed.

Larry Van Horn, N5FPW
Founding Father Milcom/Fedcom/Trunkcom
Blog Address: http://mt-milcom.blogspot.com/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken" <rfinder1 at verizon.net>
To: "MilCom" <milcom at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MilCom] Discussion Points -- Logging Codes,Summary Logs Versus 
Real Time, Multiple List Postings Uniqueness?


> Perhaps this a bit controversially but this message covers the following 
> potential discussion points
> 1.  Introduction of a Logging Coding Scheme:
> 2.  Recommend information in Loggings.
> 3.  Summary Posting daily versus many messages
> 4.  "Uniqueness of Lists" versus multiple postings
>
> 1.  Maybe it's time to consider introduce a log coding scheme.
> An example (not all inclusive of codes):
>
> AR = Aerial Refueling
> BL = Block Assignment
> CD = Clearance Delivery
> CO = Climb out
> DE = Descending
> ER = Engine Run (on the ground)
> FL = Flight Level
> GE = Ground Emergency
> IFR = Instrument Flight Rules
> IFE = Inflight Emergency
> LA = Land
> LPW = Local Pattern Work
> PRD = Parachute Drops  Add B for bundles/cargo, P for personnel
> R# = Runway number
> RC= Radio Check
> TA = Taxi
> TG = Touch/goes
> TO = Take Off
> UNK = Unknown
> (others could be added, suggestions?).
>
> 2.  Frequencies could be in order of use followed by "/" between each
> What also would be great if ever once and awhile & legend would be 
> published to show the frequency & it's specific user in numeric order at 
> the bottom of the logs.   Furthermore when an aircraft callsign is used in 
> parenthesis indicate the type of aircraft.  Additionally if the unit is 
> know that could be added.  I think that Sandy's logs (from Colorado) are a 
> very good example of concise summary of daily loggings.
>
> 3 & 4.  Don't want to scare away any logging posters BUT I guess the other 
> question/discussion point for this group is should the nitty gritty of 
> TYPICAL LOCAL ACTIVITY be reported in individual messages as in occurs 
> throughout the day to the list OR should a summary at the end of the day 
> be best?   Personally, I would think that the various regional lists would 
> be more applicable to getting individual messages as it happens than the 
> milcom nationwide list since the hobbyists in that region have a DIRECT 
> interest in what is happening & may be able to monitor the action.  When 
> MILCOM was formed many years ago at Grove Enterprises the other nationwide 
> free mail list servers weren't really in existence BUT TIMES HAVE 
> CHANGED!!!!  The multiple postings of loggings to multiple groups (of 
> which many if not most of us are members) just results in spending time 
> analyzing the posts & than throwing away one of the post.  Shouldn't each 
> list have some "uniqueness" to it?    That's why I've decided awhile back 
> to just post a monthly logging summary to milcom & post the details of 
> daily activity to the northeast regional list.
>
> I am not trying to dictate how this list should operate BUT IMHO (as a 
> member since the founding of this list) it's worth discussing in a 
> hopefully civilized manner.
>
> Comments, public or private as you prefer!
>
> Ken
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Greg Brazil" <baycomm at earthlink.net>
> To: "jay dehm" <dehmmy.qth at gmail.com>; "mil" <milcom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [MilCom] Logs continued
>
>
>> Ya think you could post this in English, please?
>> Greg (SF Bay Area)
>> jay dehm wrote:
>>
>>> 1349z/ JOSA 829
>>> .. 120.65 < 133.275 < 118.025
>
>
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