I think I caught them a short time later. 149.525 A2A? 1 male and 1 female ? Never did get an id. Greg Cen IL In a message dated 5/8/06 12:07:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, den8yzc at woh.rr.com writes: CHISEL 11 W/ KFFO METRO 344.6....SELF ID 2 X A-10.....WHITEMAN 1930 ZULU A beautiful day to be flying!