Okay,the combined list seems to be Chief 11 (4), 21 (3), 31 (4), 41 (4), 51 (4) and 61 (5), Rocket 11 (4), 21 (4), 31 (4), 41(4), 51(4) 61(4) and 71(3). Plus Backy 91,92 and 93. I know there are (or at least WERE) more 15s that this at SJ. Any idea on where the others went? Tinker perhaps? Brian,at "The Spot"