[MilCom] DOD, NGA Revise Their FLIP Decision??

[Larry Van Horn, N5FPW]

>Re: [MilCom] DOD, NGA Revise Their FLIP Decision??

Nope, they have not reversed their decision on the FLIP publications. They 
are going the way of the of the ball and musket, all their pubs and charts 
will be gone from their site by October 2007. I talked at length with the 
folks at NGA late last week in an exclusive interview for Monitoring Times 
(my Milcom column) and it boils down to information copyrights.

Foreign governments consider their material copyrighted and they sell their 
material to their nationals and others. DoD was getting it for free and thus 
its distribution was costing the originators money. So in order for DoD to 
continue to get the information they need for the military services, they 
are withdrawing everything and turing over public sales entirely to the FAA 
NACO offices.

I was told that the FAA will have US, Carib, LA, and Pac material for sale 
through NACO (National Aeronautical Charting Office) 
http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/index. The public replacement for 
the DoD FLIPS will be the existing US Airport/Facility Directories (seven in 
all).

It has been years since I last saw a FAA Airport/Facility Directory. The 
people I talked to did not know if UHF freq info is part of that package, 
and honestly I just don't remember.  If any of you use one of the FAA 
Airport/Facility pubs, I would appreciate a post here if it does have UHF 
and military aerodromes in it. My local airport does not have this FAA pub, 
we are just to small for them to carry those pubs.

Bottom line, nothing we do here is going to change this decision. Their 
decision is final and binding. So another government resource that you and I 
pay for as taxpayers is gone forever. This slippery slope started with the 
withdraw of the NTIA GMF in 1984 by Executive Order and now the final 
remaining military/governemt freq database in the public domain, the FLIPS, 
will be gone by 2007. Sad indeed. Guess I will have to go back to listening 
to baby monitors and McDonald kiosks. MT will have to replace Milcom with 
the new Babycom or Foodcom columns!!!   ;-)))

So now you know the rest of the story. Of course, I will have more on this 
and other neat things in MT's Milcom column. In the Feb issue, we have an 
exclusive look and new background information on the new 380-399.9 LMR band 
and in the March issue, my annual Airshow column blowout (skeds, freqs and 
equipment).

Have fun out there and good hunting all,

Larry Van Horn, N5FPW
MT Milcom/Help Desk Columnist
Assistant Editor Monitoring Times



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason R" <jason_esva at yahoo.com>
To: <milcom at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 6:31 PM
Subject: [MilCom] DOD, NGA Revise Their FLIP Decision??


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> I saw this on the FREQ of NATURE scanner
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