COMMENT-- SCANNER + CAMERA = TERRORIST!!??! Re: [MilCom] OFF-TOPIC -Photographers Say Police Harass Them

Ed Yeary w4tey at bellsouth.net
Thu Jul 22 21:49:38 EDT 2004


Just because you think you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get
you!  {: )
Ed Yeary W4TEY
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken" <rfinder1 at verizon.net>
To: "GG" <mystic at ikansas.com>; "MILCOM" <milcom at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:17 PM
Subject: COMMENT-- SCANNER + CAMERA = TERRORIST!!??! Re: [MilCom]
OFF-TOPIC -Photographers Say Police Harass Them


> GG ....Thanks for the post.
>
> Surely, now when one has a scanner, still or video camera, binoculars, &
> note pad/pen they sure are going to meet the current critieria of
suspicious
> activities NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE!!!.   Thow this into being next to the
> military air base fence line and you've got the ingredients of a full
> fledged security response.
>
> Now I don't blame the security or law enforcement folks.. They've got
their
> orders that they have to follow and how do you really differentiate
between
> the good or bad guys without checking them out?
>
> Also lets face it most of the security type jobs can be real boring most
of
> the times.  If someone comes next to or even at a relatively distance view
> from the fence line, it's just kind of exciting for them to respond to
this
> anyways.  Also who wants to be responsible on "their watch" for letting a
> potential terrorist get away?
>
> ... Some military airfields/airports allow plane watching, photographing,
&
> scanning without a problem... others you will get an immediate security
> response...  Same applies to other transport type activies (railroads,
> etc.).. Although I haven't seen any recent posts indicating folks are
doing
> any "on scene" milcom monitoring -- so perhaps most folks have either been
> scared away by personal experience or something they read in the news
media
> or on the internet.
>
> I guess to a certain extent as a country we've been taken over by
paranoia..
> To a certain extent terrorism has won -- Just look at the amount of
> resources (money, people, & materials/equipment) that have thrown into
> trying to prevent another attack!!.  You know I've got a business
associate
> who is even considering moving his family to an island in the Canadian
> maritime provinces to get away from it all, so to speak!
>
> Surely WE as harmless scanner nerds, relish the opportunity to be up close
> to hear  & feel that jet blast/wind,  see the aircraft (e.g. the under
belly
> of a C5 on final approach at 100 feet!!!),, as well as listen to the radio
> communications -- it's really been terrific... Sadly, I think that, unless
> it's an authorized open house/air show most of these spontaneous
adventures
> are just not going to possible in the future...  Hopefully I'm wrong!!!
Too
> bad there can't be some accommodation for us!
>
> Ken
> Springfield MA Monitoring Area
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "GG" <mystic at ikansas.com>
> To: "Air Comms Southwest" <AirCommSouthwest at yahoogroups.com>; "MILCOM"
> <milcom at mailman.qth.net>; "Reach Hunters" <Reach_Hunters at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:54 PM
> Subject: [MilCom] OFF-TOPIC - Photographers Say Police Harass Them
>
>
> > Remember, this could happen to you when you are taking pictures at the
> > airport outside the fence or that train hauling circus equipment or that
> > building you photographed so you could build it on that diorama for your
> > model display.
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Photographers Say Police Harass Them
> > By ELIZABETH M. GILLESPIE, AP
> >
> > SEATTLE (July 16) - Ian Spiers had just hours to finish an assignment
for
> > his photography class. He was taking shots of a railroad bridge near the
> > Ballard Locks when an officer with a German shepherd approached him,
asked
> > him what he was doing and requested some ID.
> > Later, he was questioned and photographed by a Homeland Security agent.
> snip..snip....
>
>
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