AW: AW: [Meteor-Scatter] MS Procedures - back to the discussion

[Franz van Velzen]

Hi Sebastian and others,

Your message gives an excellent example of how far the discussiion has
drifted
away from the original one about MS procedures.

The issue is that, due to the heavily increased activity on MS using WSJT,
the current
procedure does not help. In fact, as we already have seen, in densely
populated areas
there is a major issue to HEAR stations calling on the random QRG. We need a
solution for this
problem.

We should be glad that there is something as WSJT, in fact it shows us two
important things:
1. there is still room for inovation in our hobby
2. there are still HAm who do like to work DX, rather than use the local
repeater or digipeater
and as a result, the past two years has seen an enormous increase of the use
of sproadic meteorites
which learned the general public that in fact all year long, one can make
successfull qso's using
MS and even more so, using QRP (<25 Watts) to complete qso's over 1400+ km.

The often heard argument that "in previous" days "good old style" CW was
good enough and never
caused problems, compares one to one to using horse carts to commute rather
than modern cars. We do
not want and we can't to go back to previous, as we would simply ignore the
development of technology
and the very fact that humanity has a drive to develope. In fact, one could
wonder if HSCW is not too modern,
or even CW is too modern... So why not give up HAM radio at all ? That would
be really going back to the roots ?
No seriously, that is too extreme...

I am glad that CW (I presume HSCW, using HW or SW to reduce it to a readable
speed) was fun to you. I myself made
quite some MS QSO's using SSB, and that was fun too. But I do like WSJT a
lot, and I do use it intensively, as
do many others - and the number is still increasing as it gives so many
people the same fun as you have had
using CW. So, also the difficulties are increasing and we need a solution to
these problems. That is the
discussion.

And in short, I do see two options :
1. start using different QRG's, one for each period, which need ammending
IARU 1 procedures
2. Increase self spotting on the cluster. (that is NOT to make cluster
QSO's)

73 - Franz
OE3FVU




-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: meteor-scatter-admin@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:meteor-scatter-admin@mailman.qth.net]Im Auftrag von DG5CST,
Sebastian
Gesendet: Sonntag, 04. J�nner 2004 23:03
An: meteor-scatter@mailman.qth.net
Betreff: Re: AW: [Meteor-Scatter] MS Procedures


Hi all,
I often wondered if there is no way to put up something like a wsjt filter
for the cluster. I began with meteorscatter (good old style of course) even
in those days when wsjt barely came up. For me it was a great fun and also a
good way to learn CW while using it and nowadays you have pray to god while
calling cq in random mode, because each and everyone is on wsjt mode.
Let's think about it.. and maybe someone will find back to the roots.

73 Sebastian