[Meteor-Scatter] Re:Details of trans-atlantic WSJT QSO?

Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:51:41 -0500

Russ,
There is clearly some amiss here!  Either that, or this crew is the most =
clueless about the normal conventions of operating practice for =
DXpeditions that I've ever seen!
Now, having said that...perhaps they can help to start to convince me by =
answering a few questions:
Who provided lodging?  Where is their travel record?  How did he enter =
Canada?  Did anyone see him?
This crew is going to need to document a bit to convince me...
73,
Gordon
W2TTT

-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Pillsbury [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 5:57 AM
To: Steady Won; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Meteor-Scatter] Re:Details of trans-atlantic WSJT QSO?

Steady Won wrote:

> Subject: Re: [Meteor-Scatter] Re:Details of trans-atlantic WSJT QSO?
>
> pardon my english is not good so i hope is i am
> understand ok.
>
> several things seem queer about this event:
>
> husband-wife team
> not announced operation ahead
> no independent verification
> no time for others to try QSO before QRTing

Yes, and also it is strange that he said he would be on "simplex" using
144.200 listening for any EU stations who wish to try....  Very strange
choice of frequency, and also no way to set up a WSJT contact.

According to Buckmaster N2PIG is from the Rochester NY area but the weak
signal VHF guys there don't seem to know him - "maybe heard him on FM".
That FM part ties in with his use of the word "simplex".

> european side of QSO undetected by others there

This is also strange, in order to make a contact like that they would =
have
to spend hours and hours every day on the radio, transmitting with high
power.  It seems like operators in Ireland would have heard this.  Also =
it
appears that this operator has had no prior experience using WSJT or =
meteor
scatter in general - no one here in the east (USA) has heard of him.

I hate to be suspicious because I know how I would feel if I =
accomplished
something like this and then people doubted me but I do have to agree =
that
this seems like an early April fool joke!

73 Russ K2TXB

PS: Also, why all the secrecy?  And why did he not say what frequency =
they
were using, and why not specify the grid square of the Newfoundland =
station.
And why not give stations in Canada and the USA a chance to work him =
while
he was there?  That alone would have lent some credence to his claim.  =
And
why wait 5 days after the alleged contact before announcing it?

> too much delay in sharing details (freq used, etc.)
>
> almost as if to wait to see what others say to make
> manufactured detail easier to believe?
>
> If I was the one to do it I be jumping and shouting
> and telling everyone everything fast.
>
> too much imagination to believe as said.
>
> 73,
> Won
>
> --- Bernd Gapinski <[email protected]> wrote:
> > At 03:46 21.03.02 -0800, you wrote:
> > >de Steady Won <[email protected]>
> > >is this the only list where the 'pig trans-atlantic
> > >qso has been announced or discussed?  the details
> > seem
> > >a bit queer and would like to know more before
> > >challenging it.  more information please!
> > >...
> >
> >
> >  Hi folks,
> >  Last night, Mar 20th, 02 at 2134UTC, N2PIG's
> > (Alexander Dutkewych)
> >  mail arrived at my provider's server. I downloaded
> > and read his note
> >  at around 2210UTC (that's the same note that I
> > later forwarded to
> >  to the <Meteor-scatter>, <144mhzeu> and <HSMS>
> > internet mailing
> >  reflectors, as well as to the <vhf@eu> board of the
> > packet radio net).
> >  Frankly, I was more than sceptical, an expedition
> > of that big a
> >  dimension, finished with an even bigger success,
> > run by a husband-and-
> >  wife-team ? I checked Alex's call with <qrz.com>
> > (turned out okay),
> >  then checked weather condx in Newfoundland ( turned
> > out okay, too).
> >  Still not convinced, and considering that it was
> > turning close to
> >  midnight on a workday in Europe, I decided not to
> > forward Alex's
> >  message... - and then the phone rang - with an
> > excited Alex, N2PIG
> >  on the far end.
> >  He basically confirmed the contents of his message,
> > and, yes, he's
> >  on site in Newfoundland right now, waiting for some
> > pings from Europe,
> >  and they've kept the preparations for and the fact
> > of the DXpedition
> >  "very, very secret". He said that they've shot a
> > lot of pictures and
> >  there will be a website later.
> >  So I then hurried to forward his note to the mail
> > reflectors and to
> >  packet radio, hoping that at least a couple of hams
> > over here would
> >  read it and try to get into contact with him,
> > despite of short notice
> >  and late hour.
> >  Wonder who did ?
> >  I haven't heard of Alex since, guess, he's in
> > Newfoundland taking
> >  down his station or is on his way back to
> > Pulteney/NY.
> >  Let's hope for a nice website with pics  - and a
> > nice wav-file !!
> >
> >  To all, thanks for your patience; and to Alex,
> > thanks for your call
> >  (guess, I haven't done so last night) and once
> > you're home, please
> >  drop us a line.
> >
> >  73,
> >  Bernie dk3xt/ab7iy (in Germany, JN49fe)
> >   <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> >  <http://www.meteorscatter.net>
> >    "Make More Miles On VHF"
> >   <http://www.qsl.net/dk3xt/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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