Noise was a lot lower this afternoon... averaging S3 instead of S9+... but still not like a quiet winter day. QRSS3 just didn't cut it over this distance. From today's results, however, I might've gotten fair copy at QRSS10, and would certainly have had decent copy at QRSS30. The captures can be seen in this message board post: http://lwca.org/mb/msg/5415.htm John