Dex, thanks for the capture. That proves the "signal" KD5BYB and I see is not lowfer JW, but it's something not local either since we're quite far apart. Interestingly we're both seeing it in daylight since it's now 1414Z. And we also both see something down around 181.817 kHz. -- 73, Garry, K3SIW, EN52ta, Elgin, IL