Bob, Dex, Garry & All: QRSS60 slow with lots of visual gain on 29 kHz..... http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag19/wa3tts/capt00020_zpsc0ff610f.jpg Perhaps the light rising trace fragments near the top of the capture image is Dex's signal ??? Divining rods seem appropriate..... 73 Mike wa3tts