[Lowfer] No luck with - JH

[Andy - KU4XR]

John:  I trust you got my email I sent directly to you..
I could not get the links to post for some reason...
Generally speaking ( meaning personal intrepretation of Part-15 )
Most don't consider the " Radials " on the earth to be part of
the Antenna itself.. Only the wire you use to connect the TX
to the radial system is included in the 50' length.. Much debate
can of course arise on the subject..
Andy - KU4XR

--- On Sat, 12/1/12, John Hamer <wilbur0611 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: John Hamer <wilbur0611 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lowfer] No luck with - JH
> To: "Discussion of the Lowfer (US, European, &, UK) and MedFer bands" <lowfer at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Saturday, December 1, 2012, 2:11 PM
> Won't that put me over my 50 foot
> limit?
> On Dec 1, 2012 1:54 PM, "Pat Bunn" <pbunn at patbunn.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Ground rods are not a substitute for radials. At
> lf,  they need to be as
> > long as you can make them and as many as you can
> afford. On my 600 meter
> > antenna I have about 25 with the longest at 300 feet
> and an average length
> > is probably 150 feet and I am just beginning to see the
> antenna Z begin to
> > drop down  into the low 40 ohms. I add radials
> when I can usually buying a
> > 1/4 mile role of #14 aluminum electric fence wire and
> putting it all out at
> > one time.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > n
> > N4LTA
> >
> > John Hamer <wilbur0611 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >How far do you go with the ground radials? I have
> one 8 foot rod pointed
> > >straight down and 4  five foot rods at a 45
> degree angle into the ground
> > >around the antenna.
> > >On Dec 1, 2012 11:52 AM, "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Gave it a valiant run though.. Seeing the same
> carrier line
> > >> that is showing on Dex's grabber, but no
> signal from " JH "
> > >> Don't totally give up on the vertical John..
> They will work,
> > >> #1 is Radials for the RF to reference to..
> > >> #2 definitely construct a " variometer " if
> you haven't yet..
> > >> #3 I found the Low Pass Filter really helped
> to provide a
> > >> match that the TX liked to work into..
> > >> #4 A Variable Power Supply for the Final PA..
> There is a
> > >> " sweet spot " that your transistors will
> like, and " JUMP "
> > >> right up and shout out.. I found that my PA
> likes to run around
> > >> 24 volts..
> > >> Tweaking the combination of these will give
> you pleasing results..
> > >>
> > >> Good luck.. Andy - KU4XR
> > >>
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