[Lowfer] LF Receivers?
Clint Turner
turner at ussc.com
Tue Dec 21 14:45:49 EST 2010
Hi all,
I have been using the SDR-14 for LF reception for while now. This
device is a bit less-convenient than the SDR-IQ (it needs a separate
power supply) and its inputs are different: The SDR-IQ has
bandpass-filtered inputs that range from a few hundred Hz to 30 MHz
whereas the SDR-14 has two separate inputs - one that is filtered from
100 kHz to 30 kHz (no bandpass filtering) and another with no
amplification/filtering at all that allows inputs from a few hundred Hz
to several hundred MHz (using undersampling techniques.) The SDR-14 is
a bit more expensive and has been discontinued.
The unit works quite well and is fairly stable - although that's not too
hard to accomplish at LF frequencies: At HF/VHF where sub-hertz
stability is required, an external reference (not built-in) would
probably be required - either that, or one would use a program like
Spectrum Lab along with an injected, stable reference signal within the
passband to provide a frequency reference.
Two things that I've observed with the SDR-14 - and is probably true
with similar units like the SDR-IQ and Perseus:
- The USB line can carry tons of noise. Since the PC itself has
switching supplies and is connected to the power mains in the shack, it
tends to carry quite a bit of grunge. To keep this out of everything I
wound a long (6'-8') USB cable - leaving a few inches of pigtails - onto
a discarded flyback transformer core yielding about 1.5mH of
inductance. This effectively stops the conduction of such noises - even
down to 10's of kHz - when combined with proper earth grounding of the
LF receive antenna's coax - which, in my case, is also wound on a
flyback ferrite to further-block "shack noise" into the coax and to the
antenna.
- The noise blanker on the software can work phenomenally well, taking
light dimmer noise pretty much completely out - about like my
synchronous noise blanker except that I don't have to twiddle knobs nor
worry about adding other channels when other noises sources appear.
This is true ONLY if I'm running a lower the sampling bandwidth (the
"50kHz" mode - which is really 48 kHz using an internal sampling rate
closer to 24 kHz). In fact, the noise blanker is "worse than useless"
if one attempts to use it in the "190kHz" mode and becomes increasingly
effective with the narrow bandwidth. (50kHz is as narrow as it
gets...) I suspect that this has something to do with the fact that at
24 kHz the lowpass (anti-alias filtering) is far more effective than
that at the wider frequencies - or it's just not being "desensed" by
other signals/noise over the wide bandwidth - but these are only guesses.
The programs that I've been using are the SpectraVue and the "SDR
Console" program. The former comes with the SDR-14/SDR-IQ (and others)
while the latter works with a number of devices - including sound
cards. The noise blankers in both of these programs work about the same
(although the one in "SpectraVue" may work slightly better - it's hard
to say...) The "SDR Console" program is somewhat buggy, but these are
being ironed out as time goes on. (I have also tried the "PowerSDR"
program - another that will with with a wide variety of devices
including sound cards) but the versions that I've tried have been too
flaky on my system - a 32 bit XP box - to be very usable.)
Another program is Spectrum Lab: It's a bit kludgy when interfacing
with these USB-type devices, but it works very well with processing
sound card data - although the learning curve is steep.
Interestingly, I have three sound cards in my computer - plus some
"virtual" sound cards:
- The built-in (motherboard) sound card is used for the PC speakers and
microphone and general-purpose uses. This is the operating system
default device.
- An old Soundblaster 16. This is connected to the sound card interface
of the HF rig for various modes.
- An Asus Xonar D-1. This is a pretty high-performance (24 bits/192 kHz
according to the ratings, but it seems to only do 16 bits/192 kHz under
XP) but relatively cheap (<$100) card that is used for the "sound card"
radios like the "SoftRock" and similar.
Having these extra cards is nice in that I don't have to constantly move
cables around, plus with the default Windows card being the built-in one
(which has only "ok" performance) NOT being connected to any radio means
that "system noises" (dings, bloops, etc.) will never find its way on
the air: I don't know how many times I've heard startup sounds, dings,
music and things like "You've Got Mail!" in the middle of the PSK bands!
I also have "Virtual Audio Cable" which allows routing from one program
to the other without involving a sound card without using a cable - say,
routing audio from SpectraVue to the WSPR program: I've even used
SpectraVue to output a wideband (24 kHz) USB signal and feed it to
several instances of the "SDRadio" program (by I2PHD) using one virtual
cable where I could demodulate multiple signals across that 24 kHz
passband and feed them individually - using even more virtual audio
cables - even more programs for digital "sound card mode" demodulation.
This seems to work pretty well - although I've found a few programs that
don't play nice:
- Spectran doesn't allow specification of different input/output devices
which sometimes causes odd feedback effects. (Argo doesn't seem to,
either, but this is less important.)
- The WSPR program (at least 2.11) just seems flaky in general when
trying to change audio sources: Usually, it does what it's supposed to,
but sometimes several "exit and restart" things are required. Also,
I've not been able to get more than one instance of that version of WSPR
to run - which would have been handy to decode both 500 kHz WSPR beacons
and simultaneously run WSPR on HF. (I've seen this comment from others,
so it isn't just me...)
One interesting problem that shows up is trying to decouple the
"wideband" audio - say, the 0-96kHz audio - from an SDR
downconverter/upconverter rig (e.g. "SoftRock") to the computer to
prevent ground loops (hum), to keep TX RF from getting into the
computer, and to keep computer/power system RF from being conducted onto
the coax and appearing at the RF input somehow: It's a bit risky to use
transformers for this wide frequency range if you want to maintain the
best phase/amplitude response so you are left with either
differential-input amplifiers (op-amp-types) that are carefully designed
to be both RF-proof and have equal phase/amplitude response (to maintain
I/Q "image" rejection) and/or use multifilar chokes on the audio lines.
So far I've gotten away with the multifilar choke approach...
Yes, I know that this response probably borders on "TMI" with respect to
the question, but there it is...
73,
Clint
KA7OEI/CT
Bill & Becky wrote:
> Hi Group I'm in the process of replacing my TT 320D receiver. I'm looking for opinions on which receiver for LW QRSS, NDB and below 6MHz.
>
> I do not fancy getting a Transceiver because of the added cost and I'm not interested in SSB/CW HF QSO's
>
> I'm looking for time tested experience by you.........where the rubber meets the road.
>
> You may send your thoughts off list to wmarvin at hickorytech.net
>
> Best Holidays to All
>
> Bill KB9IV
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