Larry, > Are you going to cranker up and join a 3 way QSO with ZL and UA??? No. There's less than zero chance of it working, and it would mess up reception for a number of people. It's fun to be an alligator, but you've gotta know when to shut up. And besides, I have this mental image of Jay Rusgrove carrying a pair of wirecuttters and pounding on my front door... John A.