Bill/John E mail has been down here since last night so have not received any meaages...keeping up with the postings via the lowfer archive at qth.net. With what I saw on John's capture the outlook here is not good. Will run captures on the off chance that I might see a stray element or two from WA. "Refreshed" captures every 30 minutes at: http://www.advancedreceiver.com/capture/latest185300.jpg Jay