[Lowfer] QTH.NET mail problem

Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:49:35 -0600

Sounds good John. I would like to have the option to post a capture instead
of screwing around with my server to get an image on it. I like how the
Yahoo groups work. Yes the advertisement is there but it doesn't bother me.
You guys keep researching what your onto and maybe we all can migrate over
to a much more robust network in the future.

Mike>WE0H

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of John Davis
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] QTH.NET mail problem

Hi Mike,

Looks like Stewart's forwarder worked after all, but maybe delayed your test
messages a bit.

I'd like to give his method and Dexter's Web-based e-mail approach a chance
to work first, unless things really fall apart fast with qth.net.  I believe
they'll come up with with an answer for the current problems eventually, and
I don't want to further fragment the communication lines of the LowFER
community if it can be avoided.

Since interest has been expressed, I will begin working on alternatives that
can be available whenever needed.  This will probably mean an eventual
expansion of the LWCA site.  I'd been sounding a few people out over the
last several weeks about adding a second hosting provider and integrating
the additional services available there with the current site.  The other
provider would allow for a lot more file storage and a lot more user
interactivity, although they don't guarantee the same availability numbers
that our current server provides.  Therefore, I don't want to simply replace
the existing server outright; and, it would not make economic sense to add a
second one unless it would receive some use.  It's beginning to look as if
it might be used now, so I will pursue that option further.

John  D

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>Stewart's forwarder didn't work for me. QTH sucks. OK John, I say we go to
>the LWCA server.
>
>Mike>WE0H
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>On Behalf Of WE0H
>Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 12:32 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [Lowfer] QTH.NET mail problem
>
>Well let's try Stewart's re-mailer for now and make a decision later if
>needed. I totally like your idea John; a pure Lowfer server without the BS
>would be the ultimate choice as far as I am concerned.
>
>I am an owner of a Yahoo automotive group so I know how the server works
for
>that group. I keep the membership closed meaning that I have to have two
>questions answered before I approve a prospective member. I get zero spam
>that way and the group is very happy. I let them upload files and pictures
>and whatever they want to post for a message as long as it fits our group
>established guidelines. We have three strikes and you're out policy, which
>gives a person two times to do something very wrong, and then they are
>toast. Nobody has pushed that rule yet. We have 30 Meg of picture space and
>we clean up the non-essential stuff each month and most of it gets archived
>on personal servers. I believe the files section is the same size.
>
>As long as you have plenty of space on the LWCA server, I think your
>approach would be a very good thing. I suggest keeping the membership
closed
>which would require approval with some kind of question to validate a real
>person form a spammer. A few or couple of different moderators would be
>needed so the prospective members could get approved nearly 24/7. I believe
>there are enough people who are awake at different hours to keep it
covered.
>
>Comments please???
>
>Mike>WE0H
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>On Behalf Of John Davis
>Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 12:20 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Lowfer] QTH.NET mail problem
>
>I can empathize with the frustration, but I'm not sure falling into the
>clutches of Yahoo is that much better.  I monitor one group there
presently,
>and it's a bit of a bother dealing with the default quoting practices of
>some of the members with the mandatory Yahoo ads reappearing umpteen times.
>And if you want access to the group archives, you have to sign up for a
>Yahoo account and give them all kinds of information of immense value to
>marketers.
>
>Others may not find those drawbacks to be as significant as I do, but Yahoo
>is no panacea.
>
>If we need alternate communication methods until qth.net comes to their
>senses, the LW Message Board is still there.  If the tool needs to be more
>exclusively LowFER oriented, we can have a LowFER-specific message board or
>a Web-based chat going later today.  Or a combo message board/reflector
>(e-mail in and out for those who want their messages that way) this
weekend.
>Or a pure majordomo reflector, for that matter.  We have the tools; all
>someone has to do is say that they want one.
>
>( But I'm not going to spend my holiday that way unless folks say they'll
>use it.  8>)
>
>John D
>
>WE0H wrote:
>>Ditch QTH. Imagine getting on their 'Black List' and having to ask your
>>ISP's administrator to call them on the phone? Huh, good luck doing that.
>>Who does the bill get sent to? If you're on a national ISP do you think
you
>>can talk to the administrator? Again, good luck.
>>
>>Ditch QTH go to Yahoo.
>>
>>Mike>WE0H
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>On Behalf Of [email protected]
>>Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 6:01 AM
>>To: Lowfer
>>Subject: [Lowfer] QTH.NET mail problem
>>
>>It appears that the new qth.net spam rules has blocked more people than
>>myself from sending messages to the Lowfer reflector.  In order for me to
>>post now I have to use an online web mail account.  Recently Kurt and
Ralph
>>has discovered their messages are blocked.  Kurt also indicates that many
>of
>>the MARS group members can not send messages to their group.
>>
>>If you have found that your messages to the Lowfer qth.net reflector has
>>been
>>blocked try sending via a web mail account or subscribe to the
>Lowfer_Notice
>>reflector on Yahoo Groups at:
>>
>>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Lowfer_Notice/
>>
>>Maybe someone who subscribes to both reflectors will forward your message
>to
>>the qth.net Lowfer reflector.
>>
>>Dex
>