[Lowfer] QTH.NET mail problem

Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:31:30 -0600

Well let's try Stewart's re-mailer for now and make a decision later if
needed. I totally like your idea John; a pure Lowfer server without the BS
would be the ultimate choice as far as I am concerned.

I am an owner of a Yahoo automotive group so I know how the server works for
that group. I keep the membership closed meaning that I have to have two
questions answered before I approve a prospective member. I get zero spam
that way and the group is very happy. I let them upload files and pictures
and whatever they want to post for a message as long as it fits our group
established guidelines. We have three strikes and you're out policy, which
gives a person two times to do something very wrong, and then they are
toast. Nobody has pushed that rule yet. We have 30 Meg of picture space and
we clean up the non-essential stuff each month and most of it gets archived
on personal servers. I believe the files section is the same size.

As long as you have plenty of space on the LWCA server, I think your
approach would be a very good thing. I suggest keeping the membership closed
which would require approval with some kind of question to validate a real
person form a spammer. A few or couple of different moderators would be
needed so the prospective members could get approved nearly 24/7. I believe
there are enough people who are awake at different hours to keep it covered.

Comments please???

Mike>WE0H

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of John Davis
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 12:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Lowfer] QTH.NET mail problem

I can empathize with the frustration, but I'm not sure falling into the
clutches of Yahoo is that much better.  I monitor one group there presently,
and it's a bit of a bother dealing with the default quoting practices of
some of the members with the mandatory Yahoo ads reappearing umpteen times.
And if you want access to the group archives, you have to sign up for a
Yahoo account and give them all kinds of information of immense value to
marketers.

Others may not find those drawbacks to be as significant as I do, but Yahoo
is no panacea.

If we need alternate communication methods until qth.net comes to their
senses, the LW Message Board is still there.  If the tool needs to be more
exclusively LowFER oriented, we can have a LowFER-specific message board or
a Web-based chat going later today.  Or a combo message board/reflector
(e-mail in and out for those who want their messages that way) this weekend.
Or a pure majordomo reflector, for that matter.  We have the tools; all
someone has to do is say that they want one.

( But I'm not going to spend my holiday that way unless folks say they'll
use it.  8>)

John D

WE0H wrote:
>Ditch QTH. Imagine getting on their 'Black List' and having to ask your
>ISP's administrator to call them on the phone? Huh, good luck doing that.
>Who does the bill get sent to? If you're on a national ISP do you think you
>can talk to the administrator? Again, good luck.
>
>Ditch QTH go to Yahoo.
>
>Mike>WE0H
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>On Behalf Of [email protected]
>Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 6:01 AM
>To: Lowfer
>Subject: [Lowfer] QTH.NET mail problem
>
>It appears that the new qth.net spam rules has blocked more people than
>myself from sending messages to the Lowfer reflector.  In order for me to
>post now I have to use an online web mail account.  Recently Kurt and Ralph
>has discovered their messages are blocked.  Kurt also indicates that many
of
>the MARS group members can not send messages to their group.
>
>If you have found that your messages to the Lowfer qth.net reflector has
>been
>blocked try sending via a web mail account or subscribe to the
Lowfer_Notice
>reflector on Yahoo Groups at:
>
>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Lowfer_Notice/
>
>Maybe someone who subscribes to both reflectors will forward your message
to
>the qth.net Lowfer reflector.
>
>Dex
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