Here is the capture of the dot3 spectrum mentioned earlier earlier. TAGschreiber and WA gone flatline but no PI. Haven't heard from Mike S. yet this morning - maybe someone should check on him - hope he didn't collapse under his new loop last night! http://www.advancedreceiver.com/pageVD1.html Point of interest...TAG is so strong the dogbones are filling in the spaces between letter elements. Jay