[Lowfer] Re:helically loaded verticals
Tom Rauch
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Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:12:37 -0500
> voltage. Elevating the loading coil will move the high voltage parts
> of the antenna away from the ground, reducing dielectric losses in the
> ground and things near it, and so reducing Rloss. For a given antenna
> and top hat, the effect of dielectric loss will be greater at LF than
> at HF because the reactance of the antenna, and hence the voltage for
> a given antenna current, increases as the frequency is reduced. Rloss
> appears to be dominated by dielectric effects at LF, due to the high
> impedance nature of LF antennas. Measurements on several amateur LF
> antennas has shown that Rloss is very roughly inversely proportional
> to f, at least over the range where the antenna is small compared to a
> wavelength. So what happens at 1600m is not quite the same as on 160m,
> because of the difference in scale, so having helical loading, or an
> elevated loading coil could be an advantage on LF.
I respectfully disagree. Nothing changes. It all works the same
when everything is scaled to the same dimensions as a fraction of
wavelength. That is why formulas do not change from VLF to VHF
and higher, and why modelling programs can use the same engine
no matter what frequency we are on.
My 8-foot 160-meter mobile antenna has exactly the same
problems as an 80-foot 1600-meter antenna, and the problems can
be handled the same way electrically. Only the mechanical
aspects, such as physical size, vary. to have the same ground
system as my F-250 truck, I would have to have a "land-barge"
under the antenna.
If I place the loading coil very low in a system with a large hat,
power factor correction occurs in the coil. Voltage just above the
coil is very high even through current (which is the mechanism
behind desired radiation) is uniform throughout the system. This
causes needless circulating displacement currents through the
electric field (which we all know does not radiate any useful
distance because it is an induction field), which has the effect of
compressing base impedance of the system and increasing loss in
both the inductor and any lossy media around the antenna.
If you have a large flat ground screen near the base of the antenna,
these effects are minimized. Once the inductor is a few feet (it
would be more exact to talk in terms of very small fractions of a
wavelength) above the groundplane, it can be anywhere in the
system. The only two "sore spots" are right under the hat, and right
at the feedpoint.
If you think about it, this is why we should never build a mobile
antenna with the loading coil below substantial nearby sheetmetal.
The sheetmetal "short-circuits" the system by providing extra
coupling directly to "ground". like adding a shunt capacitor. Same
for placing the coil under the hat. The hat will have capacitance
back to the mast below the coil, and if we cause a large potential
difference across that point we decrease bandwidth and increase
losses. We, in effect, increase circulating currents in the coil
without changing the rest of the system.
I really don't see any difference between the systems.
> Most of us have found over here that the losses in a reasonably
> constructed loading coil will normally be swamped by other losses in
> the antenna.
Same on 160-meters. My truck looks like about 25-ohms. It is
MUCH more important to get current distribution correct than to
change inductor Q once I reach a certain value of ESR in the
inductor.
As a matter of fact, the FS change going from Q=250 (like a small
#14 airdux inductor) to Q=800 (about the practical limit using
transmitting-type edge-wound inductors or copper tubing) is barely
detectable. The change from having uniform current to triangular
current distribution measures about 5dB!
I chuckle when I see super huge coils on 160 meter or 80 meter
mobiles, because ground losses are so high the extra Q is a
waste. Especially when they stick the hat right above the coil, and
have a whip with hardly any current waving in the air above the hat.
Bottom line is use a large hat, and don't shunt the inductor with
needless capacitance. It works that way on any frequency.
73, Tom W8JI
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