[Lowfer] Soapbox (again)
Rye Gewalt
[email protected]
Thu, 31 Jan 2002 05:52:38 -0500
Les:
Why don't you put a little note on the bottom of your messages in the signature
file to the effect that new listings and changes in beacons should be sent to you
via the web form (with link). I read the list a lot and was unaware of the form
you have -- and only generally aware that you were one of the list keepers. I'm
kind of a newbie but also a pretty dedicated LOWFER web surfer. But your emails
always get read and might be a good way of advertising.
Just my thoughts.
Regards
Rye
Les Rayburn wrote:
> At 12:14 AM 1/31/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >Ah Les, cut the guy some slack! We can't be keeping your listing up to date
> >every time we try something new - no matter how much we all appreciate the
> >good work you are doing. 'Sides Paul is in 185.3 country and under special
> >protection of the BRA (Boston Radio Association).
> >
> >
>
> Bill & The Group,
>
> It's not "my" listing. I check e-mail about 40 times per day on average. If
> all this
> was for my benefit, no other form of update would be needed. But many
> listeners do not.
>
> I don't know about the LWCA listings, but the Noise Floor beacon page gets
> an average of 200 page views per day. Someone is checking those listings.
>
> This hobby depends on a certain amount of cooperation and coordination.
> A beacon is useless without listeners and listeners need to know where
> you're transmitting, in what modes, and when.
>
> I didn't intend to pick on Paul...but the truth is one doesn't just "whip up"
> a lowfer beacon in an afternoon. If you can go to the considerable trouble
> of getting a beacon on the air, how much more trouble is it to
> make sure that it appears in the only two complete on-line listings?
>
> We have a lot of newcomers this season...many of whom are feeling left
> out of the action. It is easy for those of us with optimized stations to
> QSY at will into a "group" making us attractive targets for listeners...
> or to change modes on a daily basis...but can you imagine the
> frustration of someone out there still struggling to understand all this?
>
> I submit that the "Minnesota Radio Assocation" has handled the situation
> better. While their grouping certainly makes for an attractive target, they
> have all stayed on their new frequencies for a period of weeks. This
> allows time for lists to be updated, and for people to attempt several
> nights of reception.
>
> Yesterday, John changed his beacon ID to LL..or so I thought until I checked
> his web page. That lead me to believe that perhaps the change is only
> temporary. Does John want the beacon listed as TAG or LL? Should I have
> changed it?
>
> I don't know.
>
> Maybe Bill should take over updating these web sites for a week or two and
> see how frustrating it is to try to provide this service. I'm not looking
> for gratitude,
> just that people try to keep their listeners (and potential new listeners
> in mind. )
>
> And no, it did not take me thirty minutes to look up a callsign on QRZ. But
> it did take that long to review the e-mail messages, look up the callsign,
> check
> the LWCA message board (to insure that the info wasn't already there),
> update the web pages, FTP them to the server, etc. The point is, I or John
> shouldn't have to go to all this trouble.
>
> Last year, without ever letting us know, a very active 160 meter operator
> in Nebraska with some serious beverage antennas decided to try
> his hand at receiving lowfer beacons. He got all his info from the
> LWCA web site. In just a few days, he logged six or seven
> beacons, including XMGR on standard CW mode!
>
> Without those listings, he might never had know where to look and listen.
> How many others are out there like that? And why is it that I have to
> remind beacon operators to consider their listeners?
>
> None of this is intended to make anyone mad. I truly consider Bill
> to be my very good friend. Same goes for Paul, John A, etc.
> But we do need to acknowledge that people are giving up free time
> to provide listings, print Lowdowns, update web sites, etc.
> How much trouble is it really to do the minimum required to
> allow folks to do it without a lot of effort?
>
> Enough said. I certainly don't want to argue over it.
>
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>
> Les Rayburn, director
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