I agree with a lot Dex just said ... .but I am wondering if the LF paths are reciprocal? If Dex can see Lyle's beacon due to enhanced propagation, can Lyle see Dex's beacon as well? I personally don't find fault with anyone as long as they are having fun and moving forward in some area. If some guys want to see qsos on 1750, then they should put up a station and start talking. Conard